It all depends on what agenda items he focuses on first and more importantly, how the economy acts. The market wants consistency, businesses want a set of guidelines that don’t change. That is how they can plan ahead. Obviously there are some things that can be positive and able to incorporate in their business plans. If there is a major shake up, like Musk is saying, it could have issues through all of the market. Market cycle models have been pointing to a recession for a while, it will end up happening at some point, regardless of policy. The policy can push it through or slow it down, but rarely able to stop it. If people find themselves unemployed or pay frozen, they will have little patience in a shake up. Just like inflation, many voters will blame it on who is in office, even if no connection. If that happens, no matter how good of policy is going through, there will be call for change.
If they can avoid that in first two years, it would be most beneficial to focus on the more moderate policy which will keep the independent voters supporting during the midterms.
History shows when full house, the more far right or far left policies are forced through while they can. Then the midterms end up being a referendum.

genieman77

MyWar


Serious question - How long do you think it’s gonna be before people turn on Trump if he can’t deliver on his promises? And I don’t mean you people who are firmly in trumps camp already
I mean average voters

 
I'm reasonably sure "average voters" will see that "you people" will be obstructionists to any  and everything he attempts to do.
even when "you people" agree with it, you'll do your best to foul it if Trump proposes 
 
watch and see 
 
..L.T.A.
 
 

Just a couple of many things that don't make sense to me.  Maybe the Trump supporters here can help me understand their view.
 
The main reason given for Trump's win is the economy, primarily inflation.  Three major Trump campaign promises are: Tax cuts, massive tariffs on all imports, and deport 20M undocumented (since the official total estimate is 11M, lets just say "all" undocumented) which include almost 5 percent of the US workforce.  I see all three being inflationary, how am I wrong?
 
Another head scratcher is his campaign promise to eliminate all gov't subsidies for electric vehicles (EVs) including the $7500 tax credit for purchasers.  If true, why is Elon Musk a huge supporter?

Might question the number of illegals working to make up 5%  of the workforce-
I live in a red town in deep blue ct and havent seen indications of that number--not even close -and I get around the state quite a bit,

JerryS
 



 
The main reason given for Trump's win is the economy, primarily inflation. 

 
economy, deficit, immigration, foreign policy weakness, agendas too far left for the majority of independents that decide elections, et al
 all part of it, the aggregate of which was a clear mandate and should be a wake up call to the dems   
 
 
 

JerrySThree major Trump campaign promises are: Tax cuts, massive tariffs on all imports, and deport 20M undocumented (since the official total estimate is 11M, lets just say "all" undocumented) which include almost 5 percent of the US workforce.  I see all three being inflationary, how am I wrong?

 
I don't think you are wrong, Jer.
We'll have to see how much the tariffs will offset tax cuts .
 
Little doubt in my mind, many things will cost more.
Leaning isolationist personally, it's bitter pill I'm willing to swallow to bring more manufacturing back.
I won't see the benefit of it, But my grandkids will
 I firmly believe more manufacturing here makes us a stronger, less vulnerable nation.
(Covid demonstrated our vulnerability/dependency)     
 
 

JerrySAnother head scratcher is his campaign promise to eliminate all gov't subsidies for electric vehicles (EVs) including the $7500 tax credit for purchasers.  If true, why is Elon Musk a huge supporter?

 
don't know.
I'm not sure Musk cares.
He knew he'd take a hit in sales from the greenies and leftists that loved him until he "came out" as leaning right.
 
and who knows, maybe Musk sees more billions in gov contracts from space and com tech stuff??
 
 
..L.T.A.
 

Might even see a lot of savings in govt dept  trimming as well as restrictions on govt handouts to foreign countries both of which cost hundreds of millions annually and both have been mentioned for the chopping block.

genieman77

JerryS
 



 
The main reason given for Trump's win is the economy, primarily inflation. 

 
economy, deficit, immigration, foreign policy weakness, agendas too far left for the majority of independents that decide elections, et al
 all part of it, the aggregate of which was a clear mandate and should be a wake up call to the dems   
 
 
 

JerrySThree major Trump campaign promises are: Tax cuts, massive tariffs on all imports, and deport 20M undocumented (since the official total estimate is 11M, lets just say "all" undocumented) which include almost 5 percent of the US workforce.  I see all three being inflationary, how am I wrong?

 
I don't think you are wrong, Jer.
We'll have to see how much the tariffs will offset tax cuts .
 
Little doubt in my mind, many things will cost more.
Leaning isolationist personally, it's bitter pill I'm willing to swallow to bring more manufacturing back.
I won't see the benefit of it, But my grandkids will
 I firmly believe more manufacturing here makes us a stronger, less vulnerable nation.
(Covid demonstrated our vulnerability/dependency)     
 
 

JerrySAnother head scratcher is his campaign promise to eliminate all gov't subsidies for electric vehicles (EVs) including the $7500 tax credit for purchasers.  If true, why is Elon Musk a huge supporter?

 
don't know.
I'm not sure Musk cares.
He knew he'd take a hit in sales from the greenies and leftists that loved him until he "came out" as leaning right.
 
and who knows, maybe Musk sees more billions in gov contracts from space and com tech stuff??
 
 
..L.T.A.
 

But Trump and other GOP are against bringing manufacturing back by repealing the CHIPs Act?

genieman77
 
 
 
I'm reasonably sure "average voters" will see that "you people" will be obstructionists to any  and everything he attempts to do.
even when "you people" agree with it, you'll do your best to foul it if Trump proposes 
 
watch and see 
 
..L.T.A.
 

I agree. Remember, HR1 is still sittin' on Schumer's desk, (since July of '23). The best border bill yet, and should be one of the very first bills to get through the Senate, but at the same time, the filibuster is still in place, (thanks to Sinema and Manchin), and you'll see Schumer ramp up every single 'Crat in the minority to drag out putting the bill on the floor for fear that it would pass. That will be just one of their obstructions. They're not gonna agree on much of anything as they've already stated they're gonna fight, fight, fight! OTOH, if the filibuster had not been maintained, we'd now have 13 Supreme Court justices,(all liberal majority), rabid gun control, and loss of Freedom of speech through censorship. Welcome to the 10th year of TDS!!

JerryS
 
 
But Trump and other GOP are against bringing manufacturing back by repealing the CHIPs Act?

 
welp, I'll suggest that's political rhetoric not based on reality.
 
maybe it had more to do with hundreds of billions going to pork projects like ecosystems,  DEI and research grants rather than actual subsidies to build CHIP plants 
 
To suggest they're against manufacturing is political baloney talking points for nincompoops to regurgitate
 
 
..L.T.A.   

The more things change the more they stay the same.

This mess the country is in can be summed up to this If Trump does just one thing just one he has promised this country will be 100% better off than it  was under dumb and dumber administration.