Well I must admit I usually don’t see eye to eye with My War but I think his above post is spot on. Harris and Shapiro will clinch PA. I don’t believe that she is very popular but it’s going to be hard to run against her because of her gender and ethnic background. Sharpiro has a pretty high approval rating here in PA . If this is the ticket the democrats go with, I predict they will win the election.

Porktown
I think the Harris/Shapiro ticket would be strong too. But it would likely have some issues in MI and other Israeli protester areas. I’m not sure if wrapping up PA would be enough. I doubt it would happen, but adding Joe Manchin would give a nice mix. It would probably anger the fanatic base, so doubt it would ever happen. Either that or a Republican with a spine that has bucked the Nazi movement, would be my choice.

Manchin lol. He’s 76. He’s also another fossil at this point. I know you love this guy but I can’t imagine why any party leaders or prominent elected democrats would support him since he basically walked away from the party a few months ago. Guys like Cooper and Beshear are the new Manchins.

It’s correct that winning PA won’t mathematically guarantee an EC win for democrats but if I’m not mistaken I think it actually does clinch it for republicans. Either way it’s a very important state for both parties.

Shapiro is also on record as being pro Israel. So that might be a liability in swing states like MI. But on the other hand just getting rid of Biden might give the party a chance to reset this issue in the minds of the voters who are extremely sensitive to it. Hard to say until we get a nominee and we start to see some policy positions sketched out.

MyWar
Manchin lol. He’s 76. He’s also another fossil at this point. I know you love this guy but I can’t imagine why any party leaders or prominent elected democrats would support him since he basically walked away from the party a few months ago. Guys like Cooper and Beshear are the new Manchins.

Like said, I couldn’t see it happening. Same thing with a Republican that bucked the Nazi movement as a candidate. Brian Kemp would be a slam dunk, but far too conservative for the Dems to even consider. Would be similar to what France just did to shut the door on their far right wacky wing from taking over. Back when civility was in politics, there were Presidents that would have opposing party members in key positions. Never VP of course, but if Trump really is a “threat to Democracy”, I’d think this would be the time to buck that system.

Personally, I think that threat to Democracy thing is a little overblown. I don’t think a Trump win would be good, but I don’t buy it being any different than how the clown golfed 90% of his first term. Then tweet and get on the air and talk nonsense. Amazing so many worship the guy, but that is how cults work.

Premature to surmise who the Democrat nominee will be, given the line of bull that's going on right now. It's time for one of those Yogi Berra type euphenisms to come into play. "We won't know 'til we know". 
 
What ya might want to watch is WHO did not endorse Harris following Biden's endorsement. Obama, Schumer, Durbin, Jeffries, Pelosi etc. Obama has openly stated that the Democrat heads will come together to choose the "correct" candidate, and kinda leaves Harris sucking hind teat. That confirms my suspicion that Obama and Pelosi have been in charge and running the govenment since the '20 election, 'cause most of the time Biden was in the dark about what's going on. Pelosi ain't the leader anymore; Jeffries is the minority leader, and yet the media and the upper echelons of the 'Crat party don't seem to even give him the time of day. If they get Harris booted off the ticket, the 'Crat party can kiss the minority vote goodbye.
 
JMHO! I gave ya my two cents. Can I have my $0.98 change?

Porktown
Pelosi endorsed Harris earlier today.

Well pork, if I remember you posted awhile back that you would be glad when the election was over.
Looks like ya got your enthusiasm back!
Another yogism: “it ain’t over till it’s over.”

bigfoot
Well pork, if I remember you posted awhile back that you would be glad when the election was over.
Looks like ya got your enthusiasm back!
Another yogism: “it ain’t over till it’s over.”

Still stand by it being over. Just got off of vacation and can only handle about an hour or two of work before needing to take a break. I’m pretty limited in what I can waste time on during work hours. People need to post more fishing reports to help my breaks be more productive!

Think War just hit some nails on the head.
Still wondering about the Clintons though, cant figure out if they just joined the fray lately or if Hillary is sniffing around trying to run,  although they did just endorse Harris.
Also kinda think if Harris didnt fill some boxes the Dems appreciate she could get bounced even now, But dont think they have the guts even though some would  like to see someone else on top.

 If her campaign will go after Trump hard like this she has a decent chance to win against the old fart.   https://www.realclearpoli...imary_campaign_ad.html
 
 
 

Interest in the Harris campaign surges

More than 28,000 new volunteers have registered to join Harris’ campaign since Biden chose to withdraw his candidacy and bestow his campaign infrastructure to his VP. It’s a rate more than 100 times an average day from the previous Biden reelection campaign, underscoring the enthusiasm behind Harris.
 
 
 
 

 Yeah, over a 100 million raised since Biden stepped down. Will just be nice to see someone that can skip or dance up and down those stairs while boarding or getting off at the landing strips from now on 
 
  Hold my breath when watching Biden or Trump on the stairs. 
 
Watched some of the LARGE black events she has attended in the past few years. Seems to have had great times (fun) and the crowds seemed to love her.  
 
  Seems she was strict / demanding to the people below her from my research. Reason for not being popular. A VP should be just that if you ask me.  

But what is her golf handicap? You know, what really matters when being POTUS!

crappiefisher
 
 
  Seems she was strict / demanding to the people below her from my research. Reason for not being popular. A VP should be just that if you ask me.  

Ezra Klein did a pretty good podcast about Harris a few weeks ago. The co-host of this episode shadowed Harris for awhile and they talk about the reported problems Harris had with her staff as well as a bunch of other stuff. It’s definitely worth a listen.

https://open.spotify.com/...N9MJFnSmTsWFNWFehgaOPg

She just quit--good
Hey, how about Sharpton for VP--get it overwith

crappiefisher
 Yeah, over a 100 million raised since Biden stepped down. Will just be nice to see someone that can skip or dance up and down those stairs while boarding or getting off at the landing strips from now on 
 
  Hold my breath when watching Biden or Trump on the stairs. 
 
Watched some of the LARGE black events she has attended in the past few years. Seems to have had great times (fun) and the crowds seemed to love her.  
 
  Seems she was strict / demanding to the people below her from my research. Reason for not being popular. A VP should be just that if you ask me.  

I think she brings a lot of "fresh air" to the current political climate, similar to when Obama ran for president after the political tensions of the GWB years.  While she is no Obama, she has the charisma to give people hope for change.
 
Usually the VP pick does not hold much weight, but in her case it may be the deciding factor.  While JD Vance does not bring a single vote to DJT.

I wish the old boards were still up. For the record, I called this 4+ years ago on this site when the then inept Biden named Kamala for his VP pick. No way the dems were gonna pass up the chance to install the first woman / person of color into the presidency. Surprised it took them this long to throw Biden under the bus. I will again be surprised if they let him finish out his term instead of making Kamala the "incumbent" president elect.

Just watched the “Hillbilly Elegy”. Pretty good movie. JD had a pretty rough life. Wish he would have stuck to his morales and denounced the clown.