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JerryS

snagr

JerryS
I just advocate moving the needle to include semi-auto rifles with large capacity magazines. 

How many bullets should the magazine of a semi auto rifle be limited to?

How bout handguns? Is a ten shot clip too much or just right?

Ten rounds makes sense since it is the standard min size already in production, and is not much different than other semi-auto hunting rifles.  Ten is also appropriate for handguns.  Handguns are not nearly as effective in killing as ARs and they have a justifiable need in society; personal protection.

What about hands and feet? They’re used more often in homicides than rifles are. What are we gonna do to keep hands out of the hands of bad guys?

Handguns account for around 45% of homicides in the US.

CTKsnowman

JerryS

snagr

JerryS
I just advocate moving the needle to include semi-auto rifles with large capacity magazines. 

How many bullets should the magazine of a semi auto rifle be limited to?

How bout handguns? Is a ten shot clip too much or just right?

Ten rounds makes sense since it is the standard min size already in production, and is not much different than other semi-auto hunting rifles.  Ten is also appropriate for handguns.  Handguns are not nearly as effective in killing as ARs and they have a justifiable need in society; personal protection.

Curious to know, what is your level of experience is with semi-automatic weapons? (semi-auto rifles and pistols only)
And also curious to know, what is your level of experience is in regards to ballistics with different types of ammunition? 

Not trying to be combative or condescending just trying to understand my audience. 

I'm good.  No need to school me on guns.

MyWar

snagr

Think critically and do a little reading and understand some of the cultural changes in regards to mental health that have happened in the last 20 years and maybe you’ll have a little better understanding of why our culture seems so much more violent than it used to.

Here’s another hole in that logic

Do they have weed and SSRIs in Canada? Australia? Europe? Japan? Why don't those countries see the same rates of gun violence that we do in the US? Or did you not know that they don’t (and it’s not even close)?

Also, do SSRIs make you numb? Or do they turn people into homicidal maniacs? Or are you arguing that they do both or …?

Did we ever get more on this topic? Why don't these mental health issues in other countries exist? Why don't they have the same rates of gun violence as the US?

So Mr. "I'm so rich" can't pony up the bond on that $454M. Just another example of being a fraud. Time for a fire sale. 😆 so much winning.

BloodyHand

pensfan1
So Mr. "I'm so rich" can't pony up the bond on that $454M. Just another example of being a fraud. Time for a fire sale. 😆 so much winning.

I know, right! 
Who decided on a $454 million fine? How did they derive at that number?
 
BH

A man like tRump, who is so uber rich and such a fabulous real estate mogul, that owns the greatest properties in the world, should be liquid enough to secure a bond for such a pittance. Oh wait.. he went to 30 bond companies and NO ONE would spot him the cash. 😆 So does it really matter what the number is? He's a fraud. Which is exactly the reason he has the $464M fine in the first place.

Irisheyeball
Why all the talk about "fire sales" and liquidating properties?  The most straightforward way to address his needs would be to do what you or I might do, which is take mortgages on some of his many valuable properties.  No need to sell them.  The fact that he can't  do that obviously means that he lacks sufficient equity in those properties to meet a legitimate lender's underwriting standards. 
 

lol… well there’s also that 450 million dollar NY civil fraud case where it was determined that trump inflated the values of his properties to secure bank loans. So maybe just maybe that’s why banks might be reluctant to lend him money secured by real estate.

Or maybe it’s because he publicly bragged about how smart he was for not paying creditors.

Maybe Saudi royalty will bail him out. Because it’s totally cool if the president of the United States owes a foreign government half a billion dollars. Or at least it’s totally cool as long as they have an “R” in front of their name.

Maybe Saudi royalty will bail him out. Because it’s totally cool if the president of the United States owes a foreign government half a billion dollars. Or at least it’s totally cool as long as they have an “R” in front of their name.

They're begging for him to take a loan from a foreign entity. 1 more reason they'll have to disqualify him for the presidency. Why do they fear him so much? If he's such a fraud and a chump, obviously no one will vote for him. How could anyone vote for someone who defrauded the banks by over evaluating their assets to secure a better loan. Oh wait, there was no victim here. No one was defrauded. 
And this goes out to all the Haters...... " Don't hate the player, hate the game "
 
BH

BloodyHand

  How could anyone vote for someone who defrauded the banks by over evaluating their assets to secure a better loan. Oh wait, there was no victim here. No one was defrauded. 
And this goes out to all the Haters...... " Don't hate the player, hate the game "
 
BH

Do you not remember a primary cause of the great recession in 2008?  People couldn't afford mortgages, which were often higher than the collateral house value, and some banks went under.  The lending laws Trump broke exist for a reason.  While he paid his loans in full, what would have been the outcome if his business ventures failed and he filed bankruptcy for a 7th time?  The penalties he is being charged are to discourage further loan fraud where there might be victims.
 
I'm surprised you are supportive of Trump.  If I recall correctly, you are a small business owner.  You should read up on how many small businesses got screwed when doing contract work for Trump.  His six bankruptcies alone accounted for millions lost for small businesses, while he got to keep his billions.

I’m legitimately curious about what some of the trumpers on the board think about this

https://apnews.com/articl...9f70c5237e13a3462e5790

This will definitely hurt down ballot candidates. It could cost republicans the US house and/or senate. Some winnable races will definitely be lost because of this.

So many questions and possibilities surrounding this situation.  One might term it chaos...so what's new?
I see several potential paths:
1.  An as-yet unidentified savior comes forward at the last minute and covers a bond.  I think this is the most likely scenario, and also the one that should be the most concerning. The end result of this is Trump living in one of Vlad's dachas.
2.  Trump does nothing.  The State of NY proceeds to place liens on his properties, accounts and future earnings.  Trump does his best to leverage political advantage.  Chaos ensues.
3.  Trump declares personal bankruptcy.  More chaos.  Least likely scenario.
 
We should know something by Monday.
 
As an aside, and to reply to a previous question of how the 450mm amount was determined:  The judgement is technically, under NY law, a disgorgement, that is, giving back an amount that the courts have calculated as the "ill-gotten gains."  NY has financial-related laws that other states do not due to its position as a global financial center.  

You are a pure KOOK.

MyWar
https://www.politico.com/...idge-collapse-00149061

If nothing else, thank god the Biden administration has competent people who actually care about governance, who are working in cabinet positions to manage responses to catastrophes and emergencies.

 
Can you name who they might be? Surely you can't mean Mayor Pete, who was not only late on the FAA computer crises when they had to ground all of the planes, and late on the East Pallistine railroad debacle, but darn near nonexistent.
 

MyWar
So lets turn all three branches of the federal government over to trump stooges. And then when the next national emergency happens trump can say “we’re gonna make Singapore pay for it” and then do nothing because he wants to punish Baltimore for not voting for him. That would be real leadership.

 
You make it easy for some of us to see just how far left you are. Biden has already said he will ask Congress for full funding to clean up, open up the waterway, and rebuild a new bridge, tax payer money that we don't have. Apparently he doen't know that all of those shipping companies have something called liability insurance. Sources are sayin' it could take months, losing $83M a day. To that I say BS! They might lose tons of money per day, but getting the bridge scrapped and the waterway opened should take maybe a month or two. You'll have crane barges and ****loads of torch wielding personel gettin' rid of that iron. Rebuilding the bridge would be the long term liability.You just have to have the will to get it done and the resources available to do it. Hell, the government had Pearl Harbor opened and fully functional as far as gettin' in and out in a week or less. The carriers came back in within 3 days. Several of those ships were salvaged in months, so we know it can be done.

Mitchell
Can you name who they might be? Surely you can't mean Mayor Pete, who was not only late on the FAA computer crises when they had to ground all of the planes, and late on the East Pallistine railroad debacle, but darn near nonexistent.
 

 
Mayor Pete is very busy trying to determine which under and overpasses in the US are systemically racist.  

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The term rube comes to mind. 😆