Boat launches are closed. Guides and social distancing on SR.

I am a little disappointed in some of the guides on the SR . Many facebook posts on how they are "allowed " to continue to operate because they are single employee businesses. Making lite of the 6 foot rule and telling everyone to "come book a date we will social distance at 6 feet and get you on fish" One even said " we have options for lodging" This frightens and saddens me as we all know the 6 foot rule will not be followed and this puts people at risk. Are poles sanitized are boats sanitized, nets ??? N ow I am not against fishing on your own IF you are not driving from a long distance and you take precautions AND YOU ARE ALONE or with a member of your household. I know these guys are trying to make ends meet , but this is some serious crap. I go to work at the hospital every day to do my part just to touch a gas pump that a person who drove 6 hours touched to do a guided trip. There is a reason for this no unnecessary travel and distancing thing . I am off my sos po box now.

Yep, chances of making it through my multiple myeloma are slim. I'm responding to chemo well, but the covid-19  would take me out.  Even though  I do everything right, all it'll take is one lax clown.  Thanks for being one of the good ones, Clint. If there were more like you I would survive.  

Clint, I don't get where a guide feels higher than what the executive order is in place and I know many people throwing out the words " I'm considered exempt ".
It's hard to take money away from people, I get that but its totally irresponsible to think one is above the law in a state of emergency such as this. Its very narrow minded and selfish when lives are at risk. If our country is truly United, it will give relief to those who suffered real economic hardships.
Notes will be taken on whose good and who cares less about others.
I will say, before this hit our country, I was narrow minded and thought ah, it's just another flu. If my concert tour was happening I'm going anyway. Well now things are REAL.
I knew well in advance in early January that PPE such as N95 masks, sanitizer, and nitrile gloves were going to be a shortage. Call our company hoarders but we bought as much of those supplies as possible, spending 10's of thousands to stock up because these are daily necessities for our workers. Since February, NONE have been available from our major distributors.
We are on strict restrictions on their usage as our back stock is about depleted.

Back to topic:
I am required to report to work everyday. I'm in a very high risk as I have personal contact with shippers, vendors, contractors ( from all different states and walks of life ) and also direct interaction with fellow coworkers. We can't fix giant equipment alone, we must work side by side.
My 79 year old mother and very health issues sister live right next door. I can not take the chance of carrying this virus to either one. My mother is the sole constant care provider of my sister, if I gave it to either, the other would likely perish so in that, I have not had contact with my mother or sister in 3 weeks. If they need supplies, I drop them on her porch or in the garage.
Btw, today is my sister's 46th birthday ( above her life expectancy). It will be the first time I have not hugged her and spoke happy birthday in person.
I thought really hard about why should I be held down to do things in the outdoors I normally do in solitude anyway. I don't like going to crowded areas to begin with.
I thought about coming to the Salmon River because my thoughts were it's probably the lowest amount of crowds in a very long time. I'm re thinking those thoughts because it seems a lot of people just don't care.
I have other places to go instead when I need that time of release to make life as I know it as normal as possible right now.

Be safe to all

Good Luck Charlie -hope for the best, in my prayers.

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Good Luck Charlie -hope for the best, in my prayers.

Same here. Hoping for a few more outings after this with ya

Well the DEC returned my e mail with a call and stated that technically they are doing nothing wrong as the social distancing is suggested and not the law and single employee businesses are exempt. I do know I will never recommend any guide I see on the at this point. Taking this situation too lightly while I am at work taking care of people who could be and are infected just does not sit well with me.

I agree all guides and charters should NOT be allowed to operate. Many, many working people have been shut down and feeling the hardships of closures, why in the world a close contact guide should be exempt is beyond me. If those who feel differently because of financial loss, well look around at how many people are in the same situation. They are entitled to the same unemployment benefits as the rest of the others.

I feel STRONGLY, they should NOT close boat launches. It's kinda throwing a blanket over everyone who is doing things right to limit those who are not.
There is no reason I shouldn't be allowed to take my boat out fishing alone or with the woman I lay my head next to every night.
Marina's and private clubs should absolutely be closed.
I don't right now know how my striper season is going to go this year. I have no plans of putting my boat in at the marina this season.
I'm making preparations at launching daily and possibly anchoring out in the back channels of the river overnight .
I'm also preparing the jon boat for daily launching out back and camping on one of the state islands.

Clint, it's the main reason I'm not docking my boat this striper season. I spoke with friends who charter and they are scheduled to go in 3 weeks. I'm good friends with guides and charters and understand tough times . Lots of people are affected although I don't see people slowing down who aren't sick. Until folks really need understand there is no get away from it I'm just trying to do my thing, go fishing and limit people until things pass. Unfortunately, 2020 will be a year I'd like to probably forget.

Clint here is what I'm seeing in my county.
More people than ever out and about.
With the mass exodus out of NYC and the massive layoffs happening our county is at capacity of people who normally are working or still in NYC. So what do all these people do but flood the shopping centers and public places with their masks and rubber gloves on. NOBODY is staying in there own homes or property lines.
Now, finally retail stores are starting to limit the amount of people inside the stores at 1 given time. The backlash is there are lines of people forming waiting their turn. It may take an hour just to get inside.
We've got a long way to go before things get better.

Our house last weekend decided there will be absolutely NO news media allowed to be watched, researched or discussion about coronavirus except for the governor press conference release of any mandates put into order. I will watch his daily press conference at 11:30 am just to gather any pertinent information. As for the numbers and cases, I don't want to know.
We've been watching a lot of artists doing their live in house concerts.
Garth Brooks was awesome last night.
Stay safe and be well folks
Peace and tuna

Just got the news that all biat launches for recreation are closed. Already got people looking for exceptions saying "it doesn't say private launches" This happens because people are still going out with friends and folks who do not love eith them. Come on people

Here is the latest executive order. People still dont get it and are hanging out with a buddy on a boat just because they feel good. Then they look for any loophole to continue just like many guides did. They knew their business was not essential but hey if I feel fine and they feel fine , we can do this there's a loophole. I have seen countless pictures on facebook with people doing this, I am sure 2 grown men do not live together when they are married and have kids. It's too much to ask the DEC or police to make sure every person on a boat lives in the same house. Then these people also have to stop and get bait, stop and get fuel, stop and get snacks. That's 3 nonessential stops putting more at risk.

Rich although I hear what you are saying and really cant disagree, it has a purpose and people should be willing to abide without government enforcement . As of now you can be fined in NY up to 1k for breaking social distancing guidelines. If we do not abide this virus can and will spread. NYC is a result of people in close proximity of each other. It only takes 1 to infect 10, 10 to infect a 100 and 100 to a thousand. People should voluntarily abide for the health of everyone and not be selfish because they cant do something they enjoy. 99.9% of fishing is not for sustenance and not essential. Again I have little Issue of going alone or with family , but I would NEVER EVER put a friend at risk because I want to have fun . It is a very thin line
at this time being tread, and our health and liberty are teetering let's hope both do not fall by the wayside

Clint,
After the layoff and even prior we are working. Most all the jobs we do require minimum 2 people. The vehicles we use to get to and from the work site have 2 -4 people in the trucks. Social distancing, not a chance but its considered essential work and are not breaking any laws. I think your misreading into the 6 foot recommend guidelines as opposed to mass gatherings which are subject to civil penalties.
If there is a law in this country that states I cannot hug or shake a friends hand if mutually agreed, then whomever passed that law should be unAmerican and their citizenship in a democratic country stripped.

I totally understand the concerns and get what's happening and what's trying to be done but NOBODY is going to take away my civil rights in this country.
I will fish with my friends.
If gosh forbid my mother is ill and on her death bed, I WILL be by her side holding her hand. If necessary they would have to physically restrain and put me in jail to stop that from happening.

I have zero worries.
I'm fishing with friends and thankful to have good friends. This is what makes people come together, not seclusion.
Close all the launches they want, my boat is on private property now in the water. My friends 16 foot v hull goes in tomorrow.
They will have to pry rods and guns from my cold dead hands before I give up my rights to freedom or provisions to my family

I will rant here .
Does everyone just isolate themselves ?
Never going out in public at all or interaction with public like shopping or getting gasoline ? I'd have to venture not.
Are people taking 100% social distance and wearing 100% ppe ? I'd venture to say less than 1% are totally committed. I try to limit interaction with strangers but have no choice but to interact with coworkers.
So given the fact I'm exposed 99.9% of the time as a requirement of life ,remember my wife , daughter, son and son in law are all public servants, then why then should I limit myself to good people I trust and many with my life.
I'm going fishing and may god help us because we are being led like sheep.