Rotation at DSR

I have heard that they are now going full pool rotation at the meadow pool at the DSR. Even days fly fishing , swinging only with 1/8 oz weight  limit added to fly only .  odd days will be conventional gear . No fishing from south side.   I may have the odd, even mixed up. Catch and release only for ALL species at this area also. They have a rod rack for placeholder and markers set up for distance. Full rotation of pool should be 45 min that say. Don't go there so no skin either way, but maybe someday though..... LOL

Enough paying customers want it to warrant it, I imagine. They are the ones that stay in the  expensive rental houses, too. Though I think it an imposition on public pools where others are already fishing, there's nothing wrong with establishing it on private waters. If they made the whole SR CandR  it could change the river to something akin to atlantic salmon rivers, without  paying for individual beats and mandatory guides.  I read  a complaint last week from a guy who brings a group  from England to fish the SR. He said they spent an enormous amount of money, but felt the fishery had become ridiculous and geared to snaggers.  He said they're not use to seeing fishermen throw their garbage on the bank and treat trophy fish as if they were the same. Rule changes like this may draw them back.  The trial run must have been successful if they are now instituting it.   I can put out a pretty long line with a  single hand spey and a nine foot rod, maybe someday I'll go check it out. 
    I think I was with with Clint fishing a prime spot in Paradise, when a bunch of swingers tried to force us into rotation. They didn't get their way. If it's a mutual choice, great. If not, pound salt. 

Encouraging,  Lucky. I'll have to make an effort. I'm on a streak of going to the river on the 29th for my birthday for the past decade.  I was going to skip this year. Might make a pass reservation, now.  Thanks for the info.
 
 
 

What happened to hyping Tailwater?  And whose fault is the trash in the public sections?  Sure ain't mine.

I've watched multi millionaires throw their cigarette butts on the ground because they think someone else should clean it up

Good thing I'm jack the ripper for our annual Halloween party with our favorite GD band next weekend. Seems lots daggers floating.
I do barely fly fish, actually I don't even consider it as such anymore if I hold a swatter in my hand. Very few do on that river except the red light district and the few working around them. I considered myself a fisherman and steward of the outdoors no matter how ethically I pursue my quary. I enjoy the company of such like minded people.
What fathams me is some will pay more to fish than lay their heads to rest. Fishing there is 1/3 of the equation.
People don't hold higher regards to the environment because they pay more, someone is picking up their trash or kicking them out.
Shouldn't that just become normal.
Any beach,lake, river, stream hiking trail I go to there is trash.

  Well, I didn't say it was  easy. Sometimes I had to break through skim ice, some of the time it was walking out on the shelf and jumping off. I don't know if I'd do it now, I'm getting a little too old.  The good thing is, after a drift boat or two passed I'd see no one.  I haven't been there, other than a walk down the powerlines, since the tailwater opened. My casting skills are also up to the challenge of overhead trees and banks in close proximity. Yeah, just use slinkys and a spinning rod. No thanks, I like the challenge.
  If I understood what you said correctly, all the places you visit have garbage. Lots of places I go, don't, or there's just accidental micro-trash . Different clientele. And actually, the  vast majority are free. 
      My town was the only town in NY to receive a grant from the EPA to  fund a program for economic development through outdoor education. A town forest has been purchased. Friends and I will construct trails and help develop educational programs fostering stewardship and respect for the environment. Less and less garbage is seen on the roads in my town, thanks to teachers and parents that promote ethical behavior. We even have a very good wild broookie stream on the property.  Oddly, in this current political climate, it's a bi-partisan effort.  As for millionaires expecting others to clean up their butts, that's the micro view  of a macro-economic  problem. Nice analogy. I'll be interested to see how the DSR is run and the overall sense of the place. Til I get eyes on, I'll reserve judgement. I'm one of those annoying people that like empirical data.

Used to love going there before the DSR but agree it was like the Ballpark.
Liked it when they offered a parking area and ladder to get to the river and willfully paid the fees up to around $25.
Those were one trip and done years and as I started going much more often also stopped paying them and went upstream.
Also didn't enjoy guides with several clients pushing in when ya had a decent spot. Just as bad IMHO as the snaggers running over and busting your little pocket upriver not necessarily snagging but trying to get right along side of ya.
Rude behavior by those  who hadda get fish  $$$ was often as bad as the rising price.

The DSR day pass now  costs about fifteen beers in a bar or 6 packs of cigarettes, or many times more for a ticket out of reality whether it's pills or inhaled. 3 pizzas.  It ain't for the indigent,  but I'll spend as much in gas going out.  They let my wife in for free, and she'll carry a pack with good food and everything we need. 
In some ways it's a cheap thrill. And a healthy one

troutbum21

fichy
  Costs about fifteen beers in a bar. 6 packs of cigarettes, many times more for a ticket out of reality whether it's pills or inhaled.

Ha, I don't drink in bars, smoke tobacco or take recreational drugs so I guess I'm ahead of the game when I pony up DSR's asking price.  Lol  
 

Some people fly to New Zealand or Argentina to catch a 10lb. brown in a river, like you did in the Meadow. Now that's some savings.

Of course I can't keep my big mouth shut when a discussion is involved. I'd like to call this a discussion until closed.
I'm still in shock and awe of feelings towards what a privatized fishery is doing to the public . I heard words and read print before about this subject.
Mandatory rotation : My understanding was it's a great thing for voluntary rotation, it was not popular to make it mandatory.
Costs to fish the SR: This is not nova Scotia and in some cases better than Alaska as public fishing goes. Big corporations are taking over our publicly funded fishery.

Its these things I don't understand:
As anyone knows in today it's a dog eat dog, I want it now daddy world. Unless you figure out how to circumvent every single tax, fee, surcharge or bill that arrives from the wallet.
Taking more , regulating more or making more laws has surely not helped to support the future. Now , now, of course there are extremists that will say we just can't let them burn more coal but I'm talking straight forward outdoor recreation and rights.
It blew my mind as I actually endorsed this section for years until it got ridiculously capitalized.

I don't even remember when I first bought a season pass in the section off question but I do remember the costs and increases.
Parking was $5.00 at first charge , my first season pass was $75.00. My last was $750.00 plus a surcharge. My last parking fee was a fantastic day catching coho at $65.00 in 2009 or 10. I haven't back since. I believe it's now 75-85 on weekends, if you get a ticket. $150-175 for 2 days in a vastly populated river is outta my radar. I'd rather spend that money elsewhere in a nice comfy place exploring free water.
My son has asked to go salmon fishing in a pay to play area as such because he wants nothing to do with people around him. I explained its nothing more than fantastic salmon water and people that take your money. The show is the same and anyone at anything will just come and walk in front of you and snag a fish but just not on steroids as other sections. He declined..
Thing that hurts most is anyone would support privatized regulation that may impact the entire state regulations

I also agree, the c& r needs to be expanded below rt 52. I would like to see it down to Ellis. Any tackle welcome below 52 but c&r only.
It would surely spread out the floaters below the lower zone and keep drift boats moving.
Not sold on a ff only though. Can do that anytime one wishes.

Lastly.
The eagles killed the concert scene by charging $80.00 and up for a farewell tour. It was unprecedented prior to pay that amount. Now it's the cheap bargain.
Reason I pay $15.00 and $1.50 a Busch can to see Lukas Nelson and POTR play in a dive bar instead of $400.00 VIP seating for them to play with Neil Young.
Just trying to keep it real
Peace and tuna

Heading to fish the DSR four 4 days starting WED.  Well worth the price and I don't have much problem dealing with the daily rotation on the meadow.  I'll just fish the fly rod those days.  Price is well worth not having to deal with the crowds and I catch and release so no biggy for me. 

Tracker12
Heading to fish the DSR four 4 days starting WED.  Well worth the price and I don't have much problem dealing with the daily rotation on the meadow.  I'll just fish the fly rod those days.  Price is well worth not having to deal with the crowds and I catch and release so no biggy for me. 

Hey tracker.
I hope you have a great time.
Maybe you'll find some nice salmon to play with also.
I switched totally to trout buy October 2nd when I fished there with good results.
May your lines be tight and hands smell like fish .

Wasn't nova Scotia province beats, rotation and gillies mandatory.
Never been myself but so told from others

From my co workers account, he pays to play. These places are in the thousands.
He visits places like nova Scotia, Scatatcwan, Idaho, Kansas montana, Alaska and the likes.
He actually disembarked on most NY pay populated waters years ago in favor of our public lesser places here
While I don't agree with the money he spends to sit in a tree stand for a week to shoot a 22 point buck and pass on 10pts regularly in neg 25 degrees on the flatland of Canada( non penned)
I do heed his experiences and advice as well.