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r3g3
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2018/12/02 12:09:16 (permalink)

Orange

This oughta start a fight   lol
  I HATE Hunter Orange-I personally believe Deer can see it.
I know , I know- studies show they cant. Oh well, studies all too often get the results ya want.
 
Think  about this- how often have ya sat someplace and seen orange moving through the woods or even on a very far off hillside ??
OK movement spooks Deer too, but only if they see it.
My opinion is that as deer don't see color but various shades of grey and as Hunter Orange is ' light gathering' -how is it that it doesnt look like the brightest thing in the woods to Deer- therefore identifiable to them.
 
In many states today is isn't just orange that has to be worn but the brightest stuff ya can get-by law- and unbroken, as in no orange mixed with a camo pattern. In my state its a minimum of 400 square inches visible from all directions.
That aint no hat folks that a LOT of bright shiny orange.
 
IMHO even sitting quite still you 'shine' while wearing it because of its intended light gathering design.
I know guys who rub it on red oak tree bark and never wash it trying to limit the 'shine'- likely a way to get pinched.
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post edited by r3g3 - 2018/12/02 12:14:24
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Re: Orange 2018/12/02 12:22:56 (permalink)
I have always worn straight camo except, I wear an orange hat when walking. Only reason is not to be seen by the people I know are hunting, it's a stray trespassers that I Don T know may be there and it's only during gun season.
Personally, if I was hunting public land , I'd probably wear an orange vest as well. There are cityits that shoot at anything that moves.

Now as for the deer , I'm not sure it matters much . They are color blind and if you wear a Orange break up pattern, it's probably just the same as straight camo.
Movement and scent is what gives you away.
Ive had my Orange hat on and deer within 10 yards and never knew I was there.
Ive had straight camo and they have spotted me like was a flashing light.

My thoughts are, depending on the places you hunt, I'd rather be safe than sorry dead.

On that note,
All venison for 2018 is processed and complete.
Onwards to fishing 😀

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Re: Orange 2018/12/02 13:55:08 (permalink)
r3g3-  this may interest you.  UV brighteners in clothing and detergents my be the culprit.  http://www.atsko.com/color-vision-in-deer-huntlady/
 
post edited by troutbum21 - 2018/12/02 13:59:47
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Re: Orange 2018/12/02 14:56:23 (permalink)
I should try the black light. Typically, my hunting gear dont go in the laundry wash anyway.
It basically gets hung outside for about a month of "rain wash " and when satisfied the funk is junk, it goes packed in a tote with cedar branches until another year.

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Re: Orange 2018/12/02 15:45:04 (permalink)
Simple test. Three people, one dressed in full orange, one dressed in orange camo and the third dressed in street clothing. All standing together and same distance from camera.

Using black and white photo imaging, Take pictures under various light conditions and/or times of day.

I find dusk and dawn to be the most interesting for hunter (fluorescent) orange.

Of course in black and white you wont see orange but you sure will stand out in the wilderness, at those times of day.



You be the judge.
post edited by BeenThereDoneThat. - 2018/12/02 15:48:00

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Re: Orange 2018/12/02 16:01:14 (permalink)
Trout-
That UV is a big deal and there are special  washes to limit or eliminate it. Dont know if it works on the orange as well as general clothing.
Yo camo aint as camoish w/o it.
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Re: Orange 2018/12/02 17:21:59 (permalink)
Orange rule should only be in effect for public lands, if on ones own private property we should get to wear whatever.

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Re: Orange 2018/12/02 18:12:18 (permalink)
On any private property.
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Re: Orange 2018/12/02 18:42:19 (permalink)
I'm not against breakup orange and have no clue about uv shining off my camo
We have 864 acres private property atop an 1,800 foot mountain where thousands of acres surround to the bottom. We never hear shots while hunting but have found people "lost " wandering around now and then. It's those people I want to " see " me coming to point them in another direction.
Don't get me wrong, if I see 1 person in 3 years, it's a lot but I'm not taking chances when people have a rifle in their hands.

Thankfully, my laws are pretty lax in the orange, at least I think but not sure.
Let's say I was hunting a new property or public management area. Absolutely I will wear an orange vest AND hat while walking through the woods. Once settled, it's easy to take off

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Re: Orange 2018/12/03 08:00:20 (permalink)
If you hunt here in amish country you are taking your own life in your hands if you are not wearing orange.. Private, public or posted ground doesn't matter. They can't read the posted signs. We've basically given up spring turkey here. Got sick and tired of being stalked every time you try and call... Only call they haven't come to was my elk bugle. That sounds pretty cool at first light.
 

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Re: Orange 2018/12/03 09:36:28 (permalink)
They are Woody Guthrie fans!
 
Verse to "This Land is your Land"
" While I was walking along the highway
I saw a sign said "No Trespassing"
But on the other side, it didn't say anything
That side was made for you and me."
 
I can't understand why putting a butt bag on the horse, requiring a fishing license and hunting license, and requiring that limits be observed are violations of religious freedom!  And for a frugal people, they sure leave a lot of useful fertilizer along the roads around P-Town!! 
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Re: Orange 2018/12/03 10:43:18 (permalink)
I like that post Lucky...you hit it on the head!
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Re: Orange 2018/12/03 14:17:20 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby bingsbaits 2018/12/03 16:14:53
Play the wind and minimize movement. Blaming Flo. Orange is a lazy excuse.
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Re: Orange 2018/12/03 18:23:54 (permalink)
Never have an issue with scoring bucks PSU.
That isn't the point at all.
Deer aint a hobby of mine- its a way of life.
Never said that nor indicated that as some kind of excuse.
Just don't like the stuff-just another law for all because some people are idiots.
Hey--
Been after a humdinger off and on far from home once in a while for a couple of seasons butt---
- for real gooood news an 11 year old kid got that humdinger this year in archery season.
post edited by r3g3 - 2018/12/03 19:19:21
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Re: Orange 2018/12/03 19:55:24 (permalink)
My last 2 cents.
If its public land , I'm not against and probably more pro towards mandatory pumpkin suits.
If its private property, well then it's your privacy to do as you choose.

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