LFZ access

Clint, despite the pfr map, I have heard the contrary regarding that section of bank having pfr. I'm sure it will get hashed out. Big don who used to own allowed people to access it. But the access was not a public right

that's crazy.. a map I see shows pfr from lot west side of bridge right up through the north bank .. Hanging on the rocks , lol ..  It's getting so screwy with boundary and such, everywhere there why bother.. Once the accident rates go up for trying to access public pfr's, maybe someone will get their head outta the sand.. AKA, nys.. I truly do respect peoples ownership but Unless there are clearly marked boundaries , it's a mess ..  

I think it's going to be a mess because for 20 years, people have been allowed to hang out on rocks .

I have not physically laid eyes on the fence, but they said it goes from the house , right to the bridge.  According to the tax map they only own a tiny chunck  of the bank right at the bridge corner. The DEC owns the river .
http://rptsgisweb.oswegocounty.com/default.htm?sbl=08801900010041000000&swis=352000

The PFR maps are approximations, if you went by the scale you would think you had a huge width, too, but in fact, you only have 35 or so feet from the water.  The posted signs were there last year.  IF NYSDEC never bought the easement for that piece of bank, he is well within his rights to post it.  If people go in there because they feel entitled because of their drive, I am sure an Oswego County Mountie will be happy to issue them a ticket for trespass.  I do know one old timer from New Jersey who will not be happy, as he spent weeks there last year, but maybe he's the one who bought the house.
 
I have reached out to friends in the agency for clarification, and especially for reassurance on the easements downstream along School House and the wires, as that property is all for sale, but there are easements on all of it.  I am also concerned about the Left bank downstream of the 2a Bridge as the folks who won that have lots of posters, many on the same trees as the PFR signs.

It will make the spey flingers on the left side happy as they will not have to contend with the depth charge fly guys (Oh, I am sorry, none of them ever exceed 1/8 ounce of shot! LOL!) that hover, eagle like, over the holding water.  Probably cut down on window replacement for the homeowner, too! 

I think people who like to swing flies are more and more getting into sink tips or the Rio Versitips as they get the fly down nicely and put a lot less strain on the caster than shot.  But the folks who are standing on the rocks to fish that part of the zone are basically right on top of the holding water, and are usually fishing nymph or egg baits more or less up and down, casting upstream mending for a dead drift through the holding water, then a short swing as the fly comes to the surface, and the sink tip systems don't cover that as well as a floating line and shot (bobber optional!)  As a person who likes to swing flies I never cared for the water on  the rocks although I did try fishing it a couple of times.  And you can swing flies there, but I always found it more enjoyable to swing them from the other side, the one or two times I could actually get in there!

I've tried it a few times and had some luck, but never see anyone using them. so, I thought they might be against the regs.
 

I don't fish the rocks but use the bridge as access to walk upstream. I have however fished right upstream where the rocks end and you can actually get into the water.
I was just curious as to how the bridge point would not be considered pfr.

It's no worries to me personally. Just trying to figure out what was once is no more. We have had fences go up along bridge access on the mighty hudson tribs but they are always beyond a point from the bridge as that seems eminent domain for the counties. Kinda like owning road frontage until the county or town widens the road 7 feet on each side or a power supply pole goes in .

Again, no worries and I hope the new landowner got river frontage property if NYS failed . Not my choice.
Oh yea. I know of plenty places in the adks that have pfr but no access points. That's kinda shady and someone's pork fund

From what I understood they are well within their right to restrict access, but not keep people off the bank. Will keep all informed when I go by.

From NYSDEC:
 
"That topic came up at the meeting on Tuesday night.
 
The parcel that is the former Da-La-Lodge is private property (and always has been) and the new owner has erected a fence to keep people from walking across his lawn. The previous owner allowed people free and open access to the property because it benefitted his business. That is no longer the case. But nothing has changed regarding any easements or public access.
 
There is a conservation easement along the river on that bank EXCEPT on that property. It runs along the side of his property (next to the old fish cleaning station) and then across the back to the river. Anglers may use that avenue to get to the river (although it is a bit overgrown and needs to be cleaned out by our Operations crew PDQ) or come under the bridge if the flow allows. Anglers may fish on the rocks below the top of the bank, but they cannot be up on the top of the bank or lawn. 
 
We have an Angler Survey going on with a Technician roaming around constantly, she can and will inform the anglers of the situation at that location."
 
So my take is there is no street level connectivity, but you walk down the street, walk around the lot, and you could pick your way up the rocks if you wanted to get up there, just not walk on the sidewalk along the house, the wall, or the lawn (And if you lived there, wouldn't you want at least that bit of privacy?).  I've always gone through there to get further upstream so I'll just walk around the lot.

Thanks for the update. It helps to have a clear understanding of access point and private ownership. If I lived in that spot, I wouldn't expect any privacy to really happen unless you built a tall fence only to get destroyed.

I like the north much better as far as the fishing allows you to walk .
Thanks again

hot tuna
 If I lived in that spot, I wouldn't expect any privacy to really happen unless you built a tall fence only to get destroyed.

Not sayin' you are wrong, but that us the unfortunate fact that gives Fishheads from all over the stain of undesirability to many of the residents of the north country, and makes posted signs such a hot commodity in all the hardware stores up there.

Sad but understandable why people deny access.