Well here it is News flash PGC propaganda is out!

Record setting year since 2002
333,254 total deer killed
149,460 bucks up 9 percent
183,794 doe up 3 percent
Bow hunters took 33 percent 
59,550 bucks
49,700 doe
Muzzleloader 20,409  kills
1,350 buck
19,059 doe
56 percent of bucks taken where 2 1/2 year old or older.
Doe kill break down
64 percent adult doe
20 percent button buck
16 percent doe fawn
Off course all this B.S. is based on 24,000 actually check by the PGC
And 100,000 report cards actually sent in. So basically it's a educated guess as always.
PGC is predicting even a better trophy buck kill next. Your thoughts
 

Deja vu all over again.  From here on out this should be called the Trump report.  "Best year ever, enormous year, thousands of deer killed, and next year the biggest bucks you've ever seen, I tell you, they'll be massive".

Anzomcik, if you don't like my post don't post anything back plain and simple. You are a PGC lover,that's fine I'm not. Your happy with the deer numbers and the huge bucks behind every tree in your neck of the woods.
 I'm not. I can't believe it's a record year when so many people complained about lack of deer numbers. I can harvest deer even when numbers are low,been doing it for 51 years in 4 states. I was checked twice  this year and all the warden talk about was lack of deer killed in gun season,and how all the bow hunters kill all the deer. I knew even before these bogus numbers came out that bow hunters where going to have a banter year. I'm glad some people care about the deer herd and other people care about filling a tag. 

its all b.s.  I cannot believe hunters killed 20000 deer in muzzleloader. I hunt a lot ant I do not see any hunters out muzzleloading. or hear that many shots . maybe it is me and where I hunt but that's how I feel. I think the numbers get blowed up every year. big ? is how many muzzle stamps did they sell. anyone know that.

"Off course all this B.S. is based on 24,000 actually check by the PGC
And 100,000 report cards actually sent in. So basically it's a educated guess as always.
PGC is predicting even a better trophy buck kill next. Your thoughts"
 
You asked for thoughts, i guess you only wanted thoughts from people that are like minded. Always awesome for conversation. two thumbs up 
 
As for my fuss I was asking why Tuna was fussin when he doesnt believe it himself. So when i ask for what he feels are the correct numbers I get nothing to answer and told to not talk and labeled.
 
Ok so i can stay at this belly ache party heres goes...
 
well Its an outrage!!! These numbers AAAAAAAHHHH!!! Cant be TRUE, the PGC must be trying to pump the numbers to make people buy more licenses, because the more they sell the more cash gets deposited into off shore accounts!!!! Not only will more hunters buy permits thinking it will be better this coming year they dont realize that these record kills mean less deer this fall AHAHAHAHA!!!! The plan is coming together perfectly. All the hunters are killing themselves out of there heritage, soon there will be no game species to hunt and our accounts will be so full of tax free dollars we will eat steak every night from the extincted PA whitetail deer...
 
Seriously whats up with the numbers, genuine question. Why do they matter to you?

Snow event has all but settled, in my little piece of Penn's Woods, as I stand watching the last of the sun fall behind the trees I am amazed to see 14 deer feeding in the pasture across the road on a Amish farm, no less.

Looking to my east, across my field, another four, elusive PA. white tails, digging through the new fallen snow.

To my south, "no Doe hunting" signs are being posted for the coming season.

Sure will be nice to get a shot at a "legal buck" this coming season, been 15 years since I have had a chance to put one of those in the freezer.

Never had faith in the PGC deer estimates and never will.

I usually get a deer every year in rifle season. I'm lazy and take it to the local deer processer that's been cutting up wild meat for over forty years. I usually ask them how's the count look every year ? They are probably more accurate with their numbers each year as to good or bad season kills !

Usually I find that Deer & Turkey are pretty much Yarded up this time of year,if you see some there is usually a lot of empty areas around, also there is usually a lot of posters around. I made the trip from Jeannette to Yellow Creek twice in the past 3 weeks, approx.50 miles each way & did not see a single deer dead or alive,each trip. Must be in the wrong part of Indiana I guess.  P.s. BTDT the Amish must be bad shots in your area from what I hear about them. Good thing that them Russians don't hunt.  lol  sam

I haven't been through the Indiana area,but traveled the turnpike from Beaver county to Harrisburg with snow on the ground,I was a passenger and can definitely spot deer easily from a car,here's what I observed,two dead yotes, two dead deer, about 50-60 turkeys consisting of 4 small flocks,and yes one live deer . Considering we traveled through peak deer time very early daylight and late afternoon till dark. I saw more deer today 7 or 8 standing in a yard in Cranberry township,a suburb of Pittsburgh today. 

Zombie deer.... I bet, and they're looking for revenge. Beware.

Sam can you imagine what will be happening next year when them Amish boys hit the fields with their ARs???

I see tons of deer every day in my neck of the woods (95% posted within a 5mile radius) i just got mixed up in about 8 of them on the backroad to my house, had two running along side my car and a couple crossing back n forth in front of me n behind me.. i felt like cole trickle in days of thunder

On my morning walk this morning. Counted 31 turkeys, 9 deer, hear 1 pheasant and saw 2 Eastern bluebirds and numerous Robin's.!

I see 6 to 8 deer outside my backdoor almost every 🌃. No big deal, same with turkeys in this area, only not in my yard. Those little blue birds have only been back for a couple of years and they way the gas people are butchering these woods for their right off ways these animals are only going to get harder to see. So if you don't mind I'll treasure everyone for now, with or without my prescriptions.

Than I apologize I misunderstood stood. We have game everywhere in this area just no land open to hunting unless you want to travel to the nearest gamelands.