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2017/01/03 14:52:19 (permalink)

Whining on the reports page...

Are the "New" steelhead fisherman on this site whining as much as the ones in the past? Is it me? it just seems that people expect to catch 20 fish every trip out. They seem to feel that they aren't getting their 5 dollars worth.
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Re: Whining on the reports page... 2017/01/03 15:36:41 (permalink)
ppl just whine because they're morons and don't understand...
 
if you land ten fish... that's a great day.


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Re: Whining on the reports page... 2017/01/03 17:56:23 (permalink)
Gas is $2.50 a gallon now, expect a lot more whining !
 
$50.00 gas , $10.00 lunch , $5.00 Power bait , =  3 hookups , 0 caught !   
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Re: Whining on the reports page... 2017/01/03 18:10:11 (permalink)
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Gas is $2.50 a gallon now, expect a lot more whining ! $50.00 gas , $10.00 lunch , $5.00 Power bait , =  3 hookups , 0 caught !   


That's all good. But when they are going to now travel to NY and OH which doubles and triple those costs to catch the same amount possibly. If these same guys can't catch fish in the Erie ditches, do you expect them to have any luck in the salmon River? Lmao. They should go ice fish for bluegill and perch...
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Re: Whining on the reports page... 2017/01/03 18:38:37 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby FiveMilePete 2017/11/08 17:26:39
Everybody likes to catch a bunch of fish, were all guilty, that's the fun of fishing. Problem is some guys get to bragging up their egos until it's a true challenge. Fact is, Erie was easy pickings for many years as were some NY creeks. Now reality has entered for whatever reason and it's become normal average fishing on most creeks. I truly doubt Erie Creeks will ever rise to the Golden Years of past, but it was fun while it lasted !     
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Re: Whining on the reports page... 2017/01/03 18:49:51 (permalink)
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Everybody likes to catch a bunch of fish, were all guilty, that's the fun of fishing. Problem is some guys get to bragging up their egos until it's a true challenge. Fact is, Erie was easy pickings for many years as were some NY creeks. Now reality has entered for whatever reason and it's become normal average fishing on most creeks. I truly doubt Erie Creeks will ever rise to the Golden Years of past, but it was fun while it lasted !     


That's the main problem. The guys that are ****ing the most can't locate and catch fish in current conditions and numbers. The days of sitting on 1 run or hole and landing 20 fish are over.
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Re: Whining on the reports page... 2017/01/03 19:30:31 (permalink)
i personaly like the challenge ,,,,and yes bob said it  those days are gone  but i still enjoy it  maybe even more now  lots of numbers in the glory years but  i remember  one fish more now than the lots of cookie cutters then....  but if you know how to fish you can still get em.....the ones complaining are probably for the most part the same ones who want to walk 100ft from the vehicle to shoot a deer......
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Re: Whining on the reports page... 2017/01/03 19:43:42 (permalink)
i don't reckon the unhappy ones will be any happier  in Ohio
Matter of fact, i figure they'll be even more disappointed
 
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Re: Whining on the reports page... 2017/01/03 20:01:28 (permalink)
Make Erie great again
 
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Re: Whining on the reports page... 2017/01/03 21:50:38 (permalink)
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i don't reckon the unhappy ones will be any happier  in OhioMatter of fact, i figure they'll be even more disappointed ..L.T.A. 


Exactly. Do they think that they can magically catch 20 on the Salmon River? Look at the DSR reports. Erie is now what EVERY OTHER FISHERY is..
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Re: Whining on the reports page... 2017/01/04 05:54:24 (permalink)
Not exactly the glory days here in Erie or up on the SRNY but  plan on fishing both in the next 2 weeks and will enjoy whatever fish I do hook up with.The DSR is wonderful place I really trust the reports.
WCW
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Re: Whining on the reports page... 2017/01/04 12:17:22 (permalink)
workcanwait....
Not exactly the glory days here in Erie or up on the SRNY but  plan on fishing both in the next 2 weeks and will enjoy whatever fish I do hook up with.Nothing wrong with reading them but I would not put too much trust in the DSR reports.WCW


Why not? Some people catch Zero fish and hook zero fish. That's an honest report from a business. Do you think that the DSR wants to keep people away? Lmao
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Re: Whining on the reports page... 2017/01/04 12:30:18 (permalink)
Wasn't really referring to any of their recent reports but they are known to exaggerate numbers and conditions at times.
And there is a lot river above them...they could have a bad day and mid river could be great.
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Re: Whining on the reports page... 2017/01/04 12:31:04 (permalink)
I believe the DSR reports tell it the way it is,some days are good,some days are so so.They are not bending the truth to get you there.
 
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Re: Whining on the reports page... 2017/01/04 12:35:44 (permalink)
workcanwait....
Wasn't really referring to any of their recent reports but they are known to exaggerate numbers and conditions at times.And there is a lot river above them...they could have a bad day and mid river could be great.   WCW


I read their report regularly, you couldn't be more wrong. Unless they are exaggerating to keep permit sales down. Why would they report on anything above their section?
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Re: Whining on the reports page... 2017/01/04 20:34:20 (permalink)
Speakin of reports EEA put their report out on facebook giving exact locations of hot spots on a couple creeks... as the world turns; these are the days of fatsos wit green paahrbait

Gill em to kill em then Rope em smoke em
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Re: Whining on the reports page... 2017/01/04 20:46:31 (permalink)
I haven't given a "report" for awhile. But I wish there were more fish! I like insane numbers in front of me. And i think some people complain on reports because they hope the pfbc will take note and do something. And I hope the same thing! I've contacted the pfbc but just gotten the run around.
It's ironic...people whining on forums about the whiners on reports.

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Re: Whining on the reports page... 2017/01/04 22:57:57 (permalink)
im not whining jus stating a fact
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Re: Whining on the reports page... 2017/01/05 18:32:00 (permalink)
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i don't reckon the unhappy ones will be any happier  in OhioMatter of fact, i figure they'll be even more disappointed ..L.T.A. 


Translation: stay away from Ohio!
Genie why u tryn to protect your Home waters? U ain't steelie fished in yeers!!

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Re: Whining on the reports page... 2017/01/05 21:55:34 (permalink)
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I haven't given a "report" for awhile. But I wish there were more fish! I like insane numbers in front of me. And i think some people complain on reports because they hope the pfbc will take note and do something. And I hope the same thing! I've contacted the pfbc but just gotten the run around.
It's ironic...people whining on forums about the whiners on reports.


Lol. Who's whining. Asked a question. I think it's hilarious. Especially the one guy cryin about only catching a jack, yet there is a guy with 3 on a stringer beside him. Some guys can catch fish... Some can't.
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Re: Whining on the reports page... 2017/01/06 00:42:28 (permalink)
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genieman77
i don't reckon the unhappy ones will be any happier  in OhioMatter of fact, i figure they'll be even more disappointed ..L.T.A. 


Translation: stay away from Ohio!
Genie why u tryn to protect your Home waters? U ain't steelie fished in yeers!!



 
seriously , anyone that thinks the bite's too tough in Pa to not "be worth it" , won't like Ohio.
there's never been as many fish here , the creeks are bigger and sight fishing isn't the norm
 
..L.T.A.
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Re: Whining on the reports page... 2017/01/06 08:35:19 (permalink)
Hey guys new here saw this forum and couldn't help myself lol I have been watching you tube videos on Erie hahaha lmao. Guys whining about Erie wanna come run the SR with us eastern boys gonna be sadly disappointed burn lots of gas and probably get wet in the real water. I'm deff Gettin in on Erie steel run next fall instead of chasing kings fer 3 months lol ! Tight lines to all the other true addicts # hard water
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Re: Whining on the reports page... 2017/01/06 09:21:51 (permalink)
donno nuttin about the Ontario tribs
 
But Ohio's "glory days" of numbers came and went  the same time PA's did .
I believe it's a "Lake Erie" thing not a stocking thing
 
 
and for the record, we NEVER had as many fish as Pa
anglers flock to Pa for one major reason ....Numbers of fish in easy fishing water.
When what "used to be"  no longer exits, some folks lament more drastically than others  
 
It's like yore favorite  Chinese buffet , that  now limits you to just one plAte
 
sum peeples is gonna cry over that
 
..L.T.A.
 
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Re: Whining on the reports page... 2017/01/07 12:24:54 (permalink)
Hey guys can't stop thinking about a Erie trip how much steel is around right now
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Re: Whining on the reports page... 2017/01/07 12:54:33 (permalink)
They are around but it's hit or miss. Conditions tough right now-super cold may temporarily lock me up. Then they'll blow ahht upon warmup/snowmelt/rain next week.

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Re: Whining on the reports page... 2017/01/08 17:13:01 (permalink)
I was fishing the tribs before there was steel, and I will be fishing them when there is none.
A lot of the problem is building expectations on the past. When you do that you forget that it is called "fishing" and not "catching."

 

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Re: Whining on the reports page... 2017/01/08 20:23:26 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby FiveMilePete 2017/11/08 17:33:24
fisherofmen376
I haven't given a "report" for awhile. But I wish there were more fish! I like insane numbers in front of me. And i think some people complain on reports because they hope the pfbc will take note and do something. And I hope the same thing! I've contacted the pfbc but just gotten the run around.
It's ironic...people whining on forums about the whiners on reports.



So let me get this straight, you are whining about a whining whiner whining about another whining whiner whining on the reports page.. 

"There is a pleasure in Angling that no one knows but the Angler himself". WB
 
 


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Re: Whining on the reports page... 2017/01/08 21:05:25 (permalink)
The Erie Diary by Captain Hook  
 
70's - 80's  decent runs of Coho with a light mix of Steelhead / no crowds on creeks except for the mouths of the tribs. Most creeks wide open to fishing. Trout Run and Walnut are the major targets. It's the beginning of a new fishery!  
 
80's - 90's Steelhead runs increase Coho slowly fade / crowds still mainly near mouths and shorelines. Runs are mixed good and not so good numbers.
Most creeks are wide open, traffic still very light.
Most new fishing ideas and information came from the West Coast, and the Great Lakes Fishing magazine. ( most fishermen didn't know this) Flies, Egg Sacs, Lures ,Rods, all West Coast ideas! They had the experience. 
 
90's - 2000  Steelhead runs continue to get stronger every year. Mouths of creeks are packed with fish and people. Awesome runs of fish are entering the creeks fairly steady.
The internet becomes a major media, newspapers are printing steady articles from Erie to Pittsburgh. Cell phones are ringing steady. The crowds start to increase stronger. Creeks are busy but still decent room if you walk a little. 
 
2000-2010 Steelhead runs are crazy ! Fish are packed in all areas of water from Rt.5 - I-79 ! People are everywhere , cars are jammed parked , Internet is on fire with info ! 
12-20 fish a day is normal for most fishermen. People from Canada to South Carolina to Wyoming to Maine are all flocking to Steelhead Alley !
I-79 traffic is tripled from Sept. - December !
Land is being posted fast , parking is a major issue in most areas , litter is everywhere, bathrooms are almost non existent, no fish cleaning stations, cell phones are now part of fishing gear ! 
The writing is on the wall. There is no way this can, or will continue like this !
Combat fishing has entered Erie Pa.strong and the Fish Commission is stymied ! 
 
2010-2016  Steelhead runs have decreased fairly rapid with each year becoming less.
Crowds are still very heavy in most areas. Some issues have been addressed with some bathrooms, parking and land owner leases. Combat fishing is accepted in most areas with limited access to upper creek areas, regular fishing areas are now overly busy.
There are no Steelhead fishing secrets, every day is a Saturday, internet fishing news and weather is daily watched, catch numbers on average are low. Seems fish size has also dropped just by reading the Pa. records past years.
 
Good , bad , whatever you rate it now, it's still fishing.....beats working !  
 
 
       
 
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Re: Whining on the reports page... 2017/01/08 22:43:18 (permalink)
they built it and we came  now its the after the gold rush era...... the lazy fat fisherman left,,, now the serious skilled are left,,, kinda glad this happened... let all the lazy fisherman stay home catching fresh stockies that hit anything......but im still catching steel lol lol it aint hard if u WALK A LITTLE ..............JUS SAYING
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Re: Whining on the reports page... 2017/01/08 23:09:14 (permalink)
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they built it and we came  now its the after the gold rush era...... the lazy fat fisherman left,,, now the serious skilled are left,,, kinda glad this happened... let all the lazy fisherman stay home catching fresh stockies that hit anything......but im still catching steel lol lol it aint hard if u WALK A LITTLE ..............JUS SAYING


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