Decent read?????????

This place is dead, lets start it up again......
 
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I don't understand why after I , just a dumb fisher , have been saying that lake Ontario is getting to clean and zebra mussels are creating a huge problem, NOW everyone is finally coming out publicly ..

As far a cameras , ah that's not the problem. The bigger problems are the C&R , specifically the fly zones .. Fish constantly being hooked over and over , day after day in areas they use to winter over .
I don't know the answer and couldn't begin to even try to figure one out but it is a fact that the fly zone during winter is a contributing factor to their lower survival

If people would handle the fish differently they will survive.Slipping your finger into the gill cover and hanging it there for a hero shot is not good,also keeping it out of the water for multiple hero shots is not good.Or how about dropping it on the rocks after you haul it out of the water?ETC. etc.
KEEP the fish in the water ,unhook it,and send it on it's way after you revive it.
 

C&R is better than roping them,it's once and gone then.

At least the DSR requires C&R for trout.  I did see a young guy in the DSR chasing after his rope with two "Cohos" on it.  We got the rope for him two hundred yards downstream and realized he had two steelhead on it.  The young man didn't know the difference.  That one really teed me off.  He didn't know his quarry and he didn't know the rules for that section of the fishery.  The whole idea is fishing tourism.  C&R is the way to go.  Erie needs to adopt this or at least cut the creel limit to 1 a day from 3 now.

hot tuna
I don't disagree with mis handling at all jack but a fish that was played to release then hooked again moments later by the angler 30' downstream and if that fish is lucky enough , may get a few hrs before the next guy hooks it , is no better off , is that not also a form of mishandled ?
The C&R ZONE , at least the lower is just to small to handle that amount of pressure ( IMO).
The above sinero also happens in other parts of altmar as well.
I seen a picture of the same steelhead caught by 2 guys on the same day and then again by 1 of those guys in the same spot the following day. One could argue C&R is working by that , but how many times can that fish handle that ?

I think you missed the point.  It's create more opportunity for people to catch a fish through C&R.  If three guys catch the same fish inside 30 minutes, that's three happy anglers that will come back.

3 happy guys and 1 dead tired fish

chartist
At least the DSR requires C&R for trout.  I did see a young guy in the DSR chasing after his rope with two "Cohos" on it.  We got the rope for him two hundred yards downstream and realized he had two steelhead on it.  The young man didn't know the difference.  That one really teed me off.  He didn't know his quarry and he didn't know the rules for that section of the fishery.  The whole idea is fishing tourism.  C&R is the way to go.  Erie needs to adopt this or at least cut the creel limit to 1 a day from 3 now.

The voice of reason.


Thanks!

Oh  and Malinda know her shizell!

Only problem with Chartist's argument is that fish that are recently caught, usually will not feed for a period of time. I did say usually.  In winter, with lowered metabolisms, it would be even more true. By logical extension, that means the second and third hook-ups were most likely achieved illegally. Or at least the way the law reads, now. If you altered the law to include methods that were passive snagging  (hard to enforce, as it is)  as legal, and the onus on it was removed it would be a different fishery. On the other hand, though I have a disagreement with Chartist on his view, I don't dismiss what he said overall, by any means. I think there's many that would like to see C&R vastly expanded and the mud shark  fishery  become less of a player in politics and economy.  The racks of white pool cues in Fat Nancy's would shrink, somewhat. I wouldn't shed any tears. It'll be interesting to see if the bio-mass changes to any great degree. It seems the forage base is transferred into the river via the salmon right now, providing for a very healthy invertebrate base that sustains the steelhead. I wonder what happens with more fish in the river in the winter, but perhaps less food and more angler pressure. More like Erie?

I have a visceral reaction to seeing trout on a rope.  As such, I support the DSR's approach of C&R for trout species and from now on, it's the only place I will fish on the SR.  I spotted quite a few spawning kings in the DSR this year.  Also, the kings were much more willing to take a fly there versus upstream where I fished just down from the trestle hole.  Plus they're fresher and fight harder, imo.  I am seeing Youtube videos now of the big run early October on the DSR.  I can relate, cuz I saw it.  It was a mini version of the so-called 100 year run of a few years ago.  And I like the DSR pricing:  buy three days, get the fourth free. 

Triple digits are a minimum for me, just to have choices.  I hardly tied any this year, as I had  4-5 boxes from Intruders and Comets to small stones and eggs. DSR is a good place to swing flies. Way more "hot".

Troutbum, I'll say that foul hooks did occur in the DSR.  When I realized my spot in the spring hole lead to more foul hooks than not, I moved to another spot in the hole...I don't enjoy foul hooking.  I broke off when I realize I did it, and I tell others when they're foul.  Most fishermen in the DSR appreciate the info...Folks upstream in the public water don't seem to mind how they're hooked.