neil1574
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centerpins
What are your opinions on centerpin fishing
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Re: centerpins
2016/12/08 11:34:02
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center pins are cool... i wouldnt mind trying them out
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Re: centerpins
2016/12/08 11:41:25
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From an absolute noob...
Amazing clean drifts... I still suck at casting it... and I've lost 4 fish so far, need to break my habit of holding the reel, lol.
I only use it when no one else is around to watch my epic casts.
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Re: centerpins
2016/12/08 12:57:25
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neil1574
What are your opinions on centerpin fishing
they don't seem like an appropriate tool for 99% of erie trib fishing. I think they'd be great in big non crowded rivers though.
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Re: centerpins
2016/12/08 14:08:48
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☄ Helpfulby KJH807 2016/12/09 07:32:21
So many opinions, some more colorful than others but the bottom line is always the same - they are stupid.
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Re: centerpins
2016/12/08 16:48:13
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Never used one
but know enough about float fishing to know they allow longer drifts that "might" be a little easier than opening the bail of a spinning reel on a long float rod . (all you float anglers have done that, right??
To me though, there are very few places where they could be utilized to out preform a bail open feed and float rod
Just not many (any?) places one can run long "uber drifts" without getting in trouble with all the "creek neighbor" company
Making them a trendy faq fad thing in Erie ...or as D said...reely toopid
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Re: centerpins
2016/12/08 17:13:27
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Not needed in Erie.
I played around with one once.
I though it was ,,,er,,,stupid.
Here's the thing. If you show up with one in Erie, people are going to assume you are an a-hole whether you are one or not. If you're on the stream and not outfishing everyone then everyone will think you're an a-hole who can't fish. So you better be thinned skinned or dam good at it.
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Re: centerpins
2016/12/08 17:15:28
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dano
Not needed in Erie.I played around with one once. I though it was ,,,er,,,stupid.Here's the thing. If you show up with one in Erie, people are going to assume you are an a-hole whether you are one or not. If you're on the stream and not outfishing everyone then everyone will think you're an a-hole who can't fish. So you better be thinned skinned or dam good at it.
Yep. They were good in 90's-2000's when people were minimal. Now, only use them in MI and Canadian streams....
post edited by Indiana_Bob - 2016/12/08 17:17:50
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Re: centerpins
2016/12/08 21:04:28
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I centerpin, but I'm only living here because of school, so really I use it back home. Its really hard to pin around here because there's so many people, so lately I've been trying to fly fish, although I'll catch more fish on the pin 10/1 to the fly rod, thats prob because I'm just better at it though. I love fighting the fish with no drag, thats the best part for me. As far as someone judging me for having a pin? I couldn't really give a **** what they think. As you see on this board and in life, people will judge you regardless. Pins are huge in other areas, definitely not Erie though.
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Re: centerpins
2016/12/09 01:10:27
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H3Fisher
From an absolute noob...
Amazing clean drifts... I still suck at casting it... and I've lost 4 fish so far, need to break my habit of holding the reel, lol.
I only use it when no one else is around to watch my epic casts.
Do it the easy way, strip out 25 yrs of line and let lay at your feet. Then cast it like a spinning rod, until ya figure the Walrus (Wallace) Cast.
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Re: centerpins
2016/12/09 11:17:03
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Never used one, but they look very efficient, maximum bottom time for the presentation with a reel with no drag sounds pretty fun. However, Erie Tribs (PA at least) don't seem like the place for them, where there's rarely enough space between guys to use them. I might try one at some point on inland waters, though. No interest in bait, but it seems like it'd be fun to use flies and artificials on them, that would be a very effective way to bottom fish multiple nymphs especially.
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Re: centerpins
2016/12/09 11:45:26
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Fashion statement, just sayin.
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Re: centerpins
2016/12/09 13:32:19
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Pinners have small hands and their fingers reek of skein.
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Re: centerpins
2016/12/09 18:30:10
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I don't have one but they are deadly on the Ohio tribs,the pinners were outfishing everyone last spring.But the Ohio tribs are better suited for pinning as they are much larger than the Penna tribs.I am thinking of getting one for when I fish tribs other than the Penna tribs.
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Re: centerpins
2016/12/09 20:53:58
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post edited by cdcaddis - 2016/12/11 14:55:29
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Re: centerpins
2016/12/09 21:37:05
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A drag free drift isn't as important as you may think.
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Re: centerpins
2016/12/09 22:00:01
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Cd caddis, don't listen to that "Fishrmn" guy, he doesn't know how to catch steelie😜 He juss jelluss cause steelies like our sax n fliez better!
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Re: centerpins
2016/12/09 22:24:05
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cdcaddis
I think pinning is a very effective way to fish for steelhead. I think there are some places on Elk and other Steelhead Alley streams where one can effectively pin if there is a lighter angler load so when you are getting those 80' drag free drifts you are not hindering the half a dozen fly and spin fishers downstream of you who can't make a cast because your line and float is right in front of them. The longer and slow pools on the SA creeks are fine to pin and the Catt is a wonderful place to pin due to the huge river system and much lower angler presence. I don't think it is necessary, or even effective, in the hundreds of little runs and riffs and pocket pools on the creeks. I think a fly rod is the ideal tool for 90% of the steelhead fishery creeks. I can make 3-4 roll casts every minute in little 20' runs. Simple, just make a gentle upstream roll cast. mend the line up, follow the indicator, and repeat. Spinning you have to reel in, open the bail, make the cast, close the bail. Just how I prefer to fish.
I can do the same with a spinning reel. How long does it take to open bail and cast? Minutes?? Jesus... I've fished around you boys since the 90's, most should trade their equipment in for a snoopy rod.
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Re: centerpins
2016/12/10 10:22:39
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post edited by cdcaddis - 2016/12/11 14:56:20
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Re: centerpins
2016/12/10 11:54:15
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Why you need 70' drifts in ere chit ditches.
PS R u rezSirectd brAd stIlheD Jezuz pOortr??
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Re: centerpins
2016/12/10 12:08:07
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Re: centerpins
2016/12/10 15:20:28
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Dont worry caddis,
Most of the guys with these negative comments about pinners have no idea what the hell they're talking about. The negative comments are all from people who've likely never owned a pin, much less tried to use one, therefore their comments mean absolutely nothing. But of course they feel compelled to contribute their opinion about center pins. Typical ignorance. I wouldn't worry about it.
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Re: centerpins
2016/12/10 19:05:20
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I've done the same thing with a noodle rod-when there's no one around, OF COURSE Im gonna let my junk keep on driftin! Gotta straighten ahht the line and keep it tight once in awhile, but if I can cover more water then heck yeah!
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Re: centerpins
2016/12/13 12:22:53
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☄ Helpfulby D-nymph 2016/12/13 12:36:59
hckyplyr
Dont worry caddis, Most of the guys with these negative comments about pinners have no idea what the hell they're talking about. The negative comments are all from people who've likely never owned a pin, much less tried to use one, therefore their comments mean absolutely nothing. But of course they feel compelled to contribute their opinion about center pins. Typical ignorance. I wouldn't worry about it.
Bought a Raven in 2004, caught some fish on it. Realized how dumb it was. It collected dust for 12 years and I recently gave it away, literally.
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Re: centerpins
2016/12/13 12:36:55
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hckyplyr
Dont worry caddis, Most of the guys with these negative comments about pinners have no idea what the hell they're talking about. The negative comments are all from people who've likely never owned a pin, much less tried to use one, therefore their comments mean absolutely nothing. But of course they feel compelled to contribute their opinion about center pins. Typical ignorance. I wouldn't worry about it.
Bought a Raven in 2004, caught some fish on it. Realized how dumb it was. It collected dust for 12 years and I recently gave it away, literally.
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Re: centerpins
2016/12/13 13:16:26
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As with everything else in the world, there is a time and a place. On days with higher flows and muddy water, I believe the pin can't be beat on the Erie tribs. In low and clear conditions there is no need for the pin. Its great for large rivers such as the lower niagara, or rivers out west.
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Re: centerpins
2016/12/13 17:01:47
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how 'bout a history lesson for me
what/where/why was the CP developed?
It's looks like a "specialized" tool to me ..simply because it doesn't look all that versatile.
But I don't know what eye don't no
SOOOO
any history regarding CP from earliest history/development to popular/modern use and where, would be fanfreekintastic ...fo-reel
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Re: centerpins
2016/12/13 17:12:25
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☄ Helpfulby genieman77 2016/12/13 20:30:05
genieman77
how 'bout a history lesson for me
what/where/why was the CP developed?
It's looks like a "specialized" tool to me ..simply because it doesn't look all that versatile.
But I don't know what eye don't no
SOOOO
any history regarding CP from earliest history/development to popular/modern use and where, would be fanfreekintastic ...fo-reel
..L.T.A.
Basic of basic knowledge locally: I don't claim to know the early developmental history. But as far as it's use, yes, it's a limited tool. However, in that tool's sweetspot (bigger rivers with varying currents, lots of current seams) it's exceptionally effective. It is used to get very, very long, like more than 50 yards long & very deep if needed, drag free drifts when you combine the free spinning "center pin" reel & the very long rod length using either bait or flies. I first started seeing them 15-20 years ago on the bigger NY tribs. Little groups of them travelling together. I imagine they were also being used in Michigan, but can't be sure, I wasn't there often enough. The thing about 15+ years ago is that you could pretty much guarantee that in NY, the guy using a pin, was also a Canadian (ask dano). That leads me to believe, without researching, that they were either developed there, or just more popular there for whatever reason. It took a few years for them to make their way down to PA's Erie tribs, but they did eventually. And then we started making fun of them because of how small the PA cricks are. They are so effective that, for me, it takes the fun out of fishing. They are still not used very often out west for steel. The guys I know who live & fish there regularly area grateful for that & they dread the day the become popular out there.
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Re: centerpins
2016/12/13 17:24:33
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D-nymph
genieman77how 'bout a history lesson for me what/where/why was the CP developed?It's looks like a "specialized" tool to me ..simply because it doesn't look all that versatile.But I don't know what eye don't no SOOOO any history regarding CP from earliest history/development to popular/modern use and where, would be fanfreekintastic ...fo-reel ..L.T.A.
Basic of basic knowledge locally:
I don't claim to know the early developmental history. But as far as it's use, yes, it's a limited tool. However, in that tool's sweetspot (bigger rivers with varying currents, lots of current seams) it's exceptionally effective. It is used to get very, very long, like more than 50 yards long & very deep if needed, drag free drifts when you combine the free spinning "center pin" reel & the very long rod length using either bait or flies. I first started seeing them 15-20 years ago on the bigger NY tribs. Little groups of them travelling together. I imagine they were also being used in Michigan, but can't be sure, I wasn't there often enough. The thing about 15+ years ago is that you could pretty much guarantee that in NY, the guy using a pin, was also a Canadian (ask dano). That leads me to believe, without researching, that they were either developed there, or just more popular there for whatever reason. It took a few years for them to make their way down to PA's Erie tribs, but they did eventually. And then we started making fun of them because of how small the PA cricks are. They are so effective that, for me, it takes the fun out of fishing. They are still not used very often out west for steel. The guys I know who live & fish there regularly area grateful for that & they dread the day the become popular out there.
Nice post.. Yes, they are popular in Michigan. Larger streams and less people. Pere Marquette and Manistee...
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Re: centerpins
2016/12/13 19:04:50
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D-nymph
They are still not used very often out west for steel. The guys I know who live & fish there regularly area grateful for that & they dread the day the become popular out there.
cool lesson, thanks. but why do your western buddies dread it? think it'll deplete the resource? just don't like pinners? combination?
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