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Re: How 'bout a good ole foul hook thread
2016/12/07 10:45:48
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Im russian, very much love to hook fish in ****.
Gill em to kill em then Rope em smoke em
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Re: How 'bout a good ole foul hook thread
2016/12/07 10:57:14
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jat1007
nice captain....
just a story... dont know if this is considered a "snagged" fish or not.... i was fishin upper elk with a sac and sz 16 hook i broke a fish off on a ****ty tied knot.... retied and hooked the same fish and landed it.... my new hook was hooked in the eye of the other hook that was in the corner of the fishes mouth.... talk about a coincidence or a good hook set on the other hook haha! both hooks were size 16s...
in the early 2000's i was fishing lower elk with a nightcrawler on the bottom. when i went to reel in i "snagged" a brand new steel stringer with a dead steelhead on it. i got witnesses i swear to god i do.
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Re: How 'bout a good ole foul hook thread
2016/12/07 11:14:51
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At least your honest about your experience Pork. Some people won't admit or question certain methods they used. We were in that same boat many years ago with NY King Salmon. Found out many trips later most were running the line and not actually grabbing the bait used. We didn't know any better, but after loosing more then hooking we kind of figured something ain't right here.
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Re: How 'bout a good ole foul hook thread
2016/12/07 11:40:16
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fishfashfush
Get the avonia tavern wing and rib combo.
This is true, a good choice always.
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Re: How 'bout a good ole foul hook thread
2016/12/07 11:50:23
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is the elk creek inn still open?? decent place to stop for a beer before hittin the 79 shuffle
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Re: How 'bout a good ole foul hook thread
2016/12/07 13:31:58
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fishfashfush
Get the avonia tavern wing and rib combo.
This is true, a good choice always.
you know it!! Always good service in there! After im done snagging fish i either eat there or that deli up on 5, Theresa's?
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Re: How 'bout a good ole foul hook thread
2016/12/07 14:33:01
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Whatever you do, just don't eat at Barbatos. Being from three hours away, I like to make the most of my trips up, and having to spend an hour or more in the port o potties at Walnut does not make for productive steelhead fishing.
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Re: How 'bout a good ole foul hook thread
2016/12/07 16:39:43
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Porktown. Basically, the "fly" (if 1/2" if yarn bunched up on a hook a fly?) was so small, that the fish didn't even notice it was going in their mouth, in current that strong. It
LOL That's silly What troutgawd told you that nonsense? They have no clue how well steel see in stained water LTA
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Re: How 'bout a good ole foul hook thread
2016/12/07 22:00:35
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I've fished spin, flies, and pins.... Never tried to snag a slimer or greaser (or any fish for that matter,) but have foul hooked on all three rigs with all kinds of bait (attifical or real!) You can adjust things, but sometimes doing that matters as much a a fish wanting to eat! Crap happens..... Just let m go!
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Re: How 'bout a good ole foul hook thread
2016/12/08 09:29:06
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I don't know Pork. Could easily be legit fish. Some times you hit the perfect conditions and the fish are hot.
Hit the mouth of 20 Mile a couple years ago. About 100 yards from the lake there was a large rock in the flow. The water was stained and up and you could not see any fish. But they were coming in from the lake and this was their first resting spot.. I hammered fish till my arms hurt. No lifting, couldn't see the fish to line them, They just couldn't resist that lake erie shiner pattern.
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Re: How 'bout a good ole foul hook thread
2016/12/08 11:18:33
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I feel like even if the waters high or murky and your smackin em left n right in the lips someone is still going to accuse u of snagging, lining and/or lifting. Jealousy is a real ****
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Re: How 'bout a good ole foul hook thread
2016/12/08 11:30:03
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I always use tandem... I'd say 98% of the time they're hooked in the mouth. Sometimes they do end up getting twisted up so the main fly they take is still in the mouth, but the other gets hooked into their body.
There are lifters and there are drifters. You can tell who is who, by watching how they fish.
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Re: How 'bout a good ole foul hook thread
2016/12/08 13:48:19
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fishfashfush
I feel like even if the waters high or murky and your smackin em left n right in the lips someone is still going to accuse u of snagging, lining and/or lifting. Jealousy is a real ****
Or they try to come over and climb in your back pocket...
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Re: How 'bout a good ole foul hook thread
2016/12/08 14:07:30
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bingsbaits
fishfashfush
I feel like even if the waters high or murky and your smackin em left n right in the lips someone is still going to accuse u of snagging, lining and/or lifting. Jealousy is a real ****
Or they try to come over and climb in your back pocket...
Funny you say this. Seen a prime example of this on Monday on Elk... 3 of us hooking up. This guy comes in, basically sat on this guys lap. Cutting off all of our drifts in the process. I think he eventually couldn't take it that 3 of us were hooking up, landing fish, and he couldn't buy a bite. He did snag 2 fish, but lost them quickly. He came back another time and did the same stunt before leaving for the day.
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Re: How 'bout a good ole foul hook thread
2016/12/08 14:15:49
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H3Fisher
I always use tandem... I'd say 98% of the time they're hooked in the mouth. Sometimes they do end up getting twisted up so the main fly they take is still in the mouth, but the other gets hooked into their body.
There are lifters and there are drifters. You can tell who is who, by watching how they fish.
I've had the following happen a lot with tandem rigs (still fish them) - Fish on. Then you feel the rod tip straighten & pressure go away for just a split second. Then the fish is on again. Now I know immediately what happened, but didn't at first. The fish has taken the top fly (usually an egg, but the same thing happens often when fishing dry/dropper rigs for inland trout. That's how I know the dropper didn't just snag the fish.), the top fly has come unstuck, rod tip snapped up & subsequently the dropper has been driven into the fish usually in the pectoral fin.
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Re: How 'bout a good ole foul hook thread
2016/12/08 16:55:33
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H3Fisher
I always use tandem...
One fly is fishin' Two flies is wishin'
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Re: How 'bout a good ole foul hook thread
2016/12/08 20:00:17
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I catch two stilhedz at once on tandam rig. Become Stilhed Allah
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Re: How 'bout a good ole foul hook thread
2016/12/08 21:36:41
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I catch two stilhedz at once on tandam rig. Become Stilhed Allah
A friend hauled in two years ago on lower Connie a steelie and smallie on a double jig rig ..L.T.A.
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Re: How 'bout a good ole foul hook thread
2016/12/09 01:44:36
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Re: How 'bout a good ole foul hook thread
2016/12/09 21:12:45
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post edited by cdcaddis - 2016/12/11 15:03:19
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Re: How 'bout a good ole foul hook thread
2016/12/09 21:43:11
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"but they "set the hook" so much too.... they think they get a hit every drift"
I fly fish the Erie creeks almost 100% of the time when I'm out. I would be the first to agree that fly fishers set the hook often but it is not because they want to foul hook a fish (at least not for me and all of my friends) I'm convinced we "set the hook" often due the mechanics of our tackle. Most of the time we are using 9' - 10' rods and high stick nymphing with hardly more than the leader and a few feet of fly line on, or off, the water. We are almost always using one, two, or three BB's dependent on the water volume and/or depth. We are really in tune with about where the fly and lead is drifting so when the line stops we lift the rod (set) because it could very well be a steelhead eating the fly. Most of the time the fly is snagged but sometimes it is a fish. If we don't set frequently we will miss fish. It's not like using live minnows, single eggs, or sacks where the fish has been attracted by scent and will likely hold onto the bait much longer than it will hold on to a fly.
Of course when the water is crystal clear and there is a black mass of steelhead in the bottom of a hole and you see a fly guy eyeballing the pod and yanking every time the fly gets into that zone well then yep he is setting the hook hoping he is also impaling a fish.
Well put/well explained, Cadis (and welcome aboard) we have a few "spin/bait snobs" here that may or may not understand fly/rod fishing it is true though ('least from my observations over the years) that guys with flyrods foul more fish. I think that is due mostly because they're not "in tune with" what/where/how is going on below their float . ..L.T.A.
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Re: How 'bout a good ole foul hook thread
2016/12/09 21:54:49
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Well put/well explained, Cadis (and welcome aboard)we have a few "spin/bait snobs" here that may or may not understand fly/rod fishing it is true though ('least from my observations over the years) that guys with flyrods foul more fish.I think that is due mostly because they're not "in tune with" what/where/how is going on below their float . ..L.T.A.
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U should yuse akwa vue kamra, then u can be a steelie sensae and be in tune with yer float.
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Re: How 'bout a good ole foul hook thread
2016/12/09 22:25:10
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U should yuse akwa vue kamra, then u can be a steelie sensae and be in tune with yer float.
this forum format stinks ....had to quote post to read what you typed. I remember why my participation dropped off some years ago now....due directly to the new "improved"  format change . Yea, and maybe I've become a ole curmudgeon too ..."get off my lawn"..... didya make it across the border last week to fishohio? Do any good? ..L.T.A.
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Re: How 'bout a good ole foul hook thread
2016/12/10 09:30:03
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post edited by cdcaddis - 2016/12/11 15:06:05
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Re: How 'bout a good ole foul hook thread
2016/12/10 11:58:34
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fisherofmen376
U should yuse akwa vue kamra, then u can be a steelie sensae and be in tune with yer float.
this forum format stinks ....had to quote post to read what you typed.I remember why my participation dropped off some years ago now....due directly to the new "improved" format change .Yea, and maybe I've become a ole curmudgeon too ..."get off my lawn"..... didya make it across the border last week to fishohio?Do any good?..L.T.A.
Posting images were easier on the old board...the mobile format is awkward.
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Re: How 'bout a good ole foul hook thread
2016/12/23 12:13:44
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Mid 80's watched a man walk up and down the bank along Girard Legion lower hole yelling out foul hook, foul hook when someone was landing a fish. Pretty annoying after a while, the stream was full of salmon and browns and you couldn't help it . There were no snaggers that we observed, and everybody was returning fish that were hooked in the body. Finally the foul hook guy got to move in on a vacated spot and he pulled a 7 or 8 lb brown in and netted it. The hook was in the belly and my partner and I saw this and we started yelling foul hook" look the hook is in the belly !".He was really upset that he had to return the fish because he had driven a long way to get there, He even stated that he couldn't believe he had to put the fish back, We didn't hear from the foul hook guy anymore.  FOUL HOOK,FOUL HOOK
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Re: How 'bout a good ole foul hook thread
2016/12/23 18:25:49
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Spent so much time in NY, can pick which two teeth you want the line through....Can floss em better than the dentist, just no fun it...
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Re: How 'bout a good ole foul hook thread
2016/12/27 18:14:11
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foul hooking in Erie, is there any other way?
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Re: How 'bout a good ole foul hook thread
2016/12/28 16:14:28
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foul hooking in Erie, is there any other way?
For you, shatfist, no there isn't. It's why you're better off in Pulaski. 
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Re: How 'bout a good ole foul hook thread
2016/12/28 22:06:46
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For you, shatfist....
 I love this place hey, Charty, what's your best producing salmon F lie in NY? .L.T.A.
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