jat1007
i wonder if they did stock them in Erie what size potential they could reach... like the steelhead average around 4-7 lbs with a 10lber being a good sized one... i was told when the cohos were around they were all the same like they came out of a mold 20-24 inches...  would be interesting if there was another species that "ran" but then again the steelhead program does pretty well and there's some browns around although i cant seem to catch any... so why spend the money on something else....considering if you'd go anywhere else like the pnw you might walk ten miles and hook two fish and that's a good day... then again those rivers are BIG..

I'd guess Atlantics in Erie would about the same size as Steelhead, maybe slightly bigger. Like you said, average 4-7 pounds with 10-15 pound lunkers sounds about right, maybe a few 15-20+ in the mix but not many, and then the 1-2 year old grilse in the mix too. During Steelhead season now, I'm up at Erie usually 1-3 weekends each month. If there were fishable numbers of Atlantics along with Steelhead a Browns too, I'd be up every weekend, and be putting more money in to the local economy, no doubt. Something for the PFBC to consider.

Divemaster

jat1007
i wonder if they did stock them in Erie what size potential they could reach... like the steelhead average around 4-7 lbs with a 10lber being a good sized one... i was told when the cohos were around they were all the same like they came out of a mold 20-24 inches...  would be interesting if there was another species that "ran" but then again the steelhead program does pretty well and there's some browns around although i cant seem to catch any... so why spend the money on something else....considering if you'd go anywhere else like the pnw you might walk ten miles and hook two fish and that's a good day... then again those rivers are BIG..

I'd guess Atlantics in Erie would about the same size as Steelhead, maybe slightly bigger. Like you said, average 4-7 pounds with 10-15 pound lunkers sounds about right, maybe a few 15-20+ in the mix but not many, and then the 1-2 year old grilse in the mix too. During Steelhead season now, I'm up at Erie usually 1-3 weekends each month. If there were fishable numbers of Atlantics along with Steelhead a Browns too, I'd be up every weekend, and be putting more money in to the local economy, no doubt. Something for the PFBC to consider.

So you are saying the browns, steelhead, pink salmon, lakers, walleye, bass, perch and pike are not enough?
Atlantics are rare in lake O and that lake is much better suited for salmon than Erie. It would be a complete waste of money throwing them in erie. 

freshwaterdrumR

Divemaster

jat1007
i wonder if they did stock them in Erie what size potential they could reach... like the steelhead average around 4-7 lbs with a 10lber being a good sized one... i was told when the cohos were around they were all the same like they came out of a mold 20-24 inches...  would be interesting if there was another species that "ran" but then again the steelhead program does pretty well and there's some browns around although i cant seem to catch any... so why spend the money on something else....considering if you'd go anywhere else like the pnw you might walk ten miles and hook two fish and that's a good day... then again those rivers are BIG..

I'd guess Atlantics in Erie would about the same size as Steelhead, maybe slightly bigger. Like you said, average 4-7 pounds with 10-15 pound lunkers sounds about right, maybe a few 15-20+ in the mix but not many, and then the 1-2 year old grilse in the mix too. During Steelhead season now, I'm up at Erie usually 1-3 weekends each month. If there were fishable numbers of Atlantics along with Steelhead a Browns too, I'd be up every weekend, and be putting more money in to the local economy, no doubt. Something for the PFBC to consider.

So you are saying the browns, steelhead, pink salmon, lakers, walleye, bass, perch and pike are not enough?
Atlantics are rare in lake O and that lake is much better suited for salmon than Erie. It would be a complete waste of money throwing them in Erie. 

 
fresh water drum....
 
no... no one said that they aren't enough...
 
i said "would be interesting if there was another species that "ran""
 
a discussion about atlantics... like i said in another post appreciate what we have...
 
also "It would be a complete waste of money "throwing" them in erie."  what do you base that on? strictly your opinion?

jat1007
 i was told when the cohos were around they were all the same like they came out of a mold 20-24 inches... 

 
All the odd/teal colored "steelies" with gum disease I was catching back in the day were appx a pound smaller than the "normal" color  steelies
The big one I caught  was at Walnut at the block  wall above the Stop Sign hole .Til that guy next to me said "Coho", I'd didn't have a clue
 
here's something else funny.....I've seen Browns in the creeks since WAY back.
Never knew they  were Browns til I caught a little one in Sterritainia ...I could see it was a different color in the water from the rest of fish.
It wasn't til it bit my trout worm and i landed it...even "I" knew it wasn't a steelie then ...My bud told me it was a Brown .
I caught it TWICE that morning
 
 
Since then, I knew all the "redish" colored "steelies" I saw were Browns .
The biggest Brown I saw was at Girardboro park
It was HUGE..I'd guesstimate 18+ pounds!! and had a little one right behind it...i couldn't  get either one to bite
 
 
Matter of fact, that little Brown I caught twice, is the only Brown I've ever caught in Pa tribs .
seen more than few over the years...but only one was dumb enough to bite ..and TWICE at that...
 
 
..L.T.A.

makes sense

freshwaterdrumR

Divemaster

jat1007
i wonder if they did stock them in Erie what size potential they could reach... like the steelhead average around 4-7 lbs with a 10lber being a good sized one... i was told when the cohos were around they were all the same like they came out of a mold 20-24 inches...  would be interesting if there was another species that "ran" but then again the steelhead program does pretty well and there's some browns around although i cant seem to catch any... so why spend the money on something else....considering if you'd go anywhere else like the pnw you might walk ten miles and hook two fish and that's a good day... then again those rivers are BIG..

I'd guess Atlantics in Erie would about the same size as Steelhead, maybe slightly bigger. Like you said, average 4-7 pounds with 10-15 pound lunkers sounds about right, maybe a few 15-20+ in the mix but not many, and then the 1-2 year old grilse in the mix too. During Steelhead season now, I'm up at Erie usually 1-3 weekends each month. If there were fishable numbers of Atlantics along with Steelhead a Browns too, I'd be up every weekend, and be putting more money in to the local economy, no doubt. Something for the PFBC to consider.

So you are saying the browns, steelhead, pink salmon, lakers, walleye, bass, perch and pike are not enough?Atlantics are rare in lake O and that lake is much better suited for salmon than Erie. It would be a complete waste of money throwing them in erie. 

Not at all. Why do you think I go to Erie period? It's for all the fishing opportunities that it offers! I'm just saying Atlantics would be a nice addition, being tied for my favorite species :). I'm up every weekend in April and May for Lakers, most weekends during the summer for Steelhead, Pinks, Drum, and Pike, and most weekends in the fall for Steelhead, Browns, Pinks, Lakers, and soon Burbot. Not a fan of perch or walleye fishing, but there's plenty of other big water species up there that I love to pursue. Especially Lake Trout.

I have a feeling that native Atlantics aren't taking off in Ontario because they're not doing enough stocking and habitat restoration for them, plus they have to compete with the thousands of non-native Pacific Salmon.

^ Elaborate please. If I'm reciting incorrect information then I honestly would appreciate knowing what it is, not being a smarta**.

Ironhed
So much misinformation in this thread...

inform us please

As to introduction of strains of fish like Skeena Steelhead, since VHS, Whirling dieseases, etc, it is extremely difficult (read impossible in NYS) to get eggs from out of state, to prevent introduction of disease from another hatchery system.  That is if there was an "Eggs Are Us" store where you could get the fish, I'm not sure BC would let their eggs go anyhow, as it sounds like they need every spawner they can get to maintain their natural fishery.

Lucky13, thanks for clarifying for me. i,d go for the trout that were spawning, ,n, catch a few l.l. salmon. n.y. closed the season on sept.1 on f.l. tribs, so didn,t get to fish fall, so didn,t know that about them. oh, internet we had then(60,s) was Jakes Baitshop in Dresden. lol. wire

jat1007

Ironhed
So much misinformation in this thread...

inform us please

I'm good.

CAPTAIN HOOK

bingsbaits

I'll take that over fishing in a ditch with a hundred Yinzers.... 

Amen brother !

Uhhh, excuuuse meee,
YINZER LIVES MATTER TWO!!!!

fisherofmen376

CAPTAIN HOOK

bingsbaits

I'll take that over fishing in a ditch with a hundred Yinzers.... 

Amen brother !

Uhhh, excuuuse meee,
YINZER LIVES MATTER TWO!!!!

But why do yinz keep sending up the Short Bus ???

Ironhed

jat1007

Ironhed
So much misinformation in this thread...

inform us please

I'm good.

Then no more complaining now, yah hear 😆.