Jet Divers and Dipsy Divers in smaller lakes

Hello all.
 
I think for trolling in Pymatuning and Wilhelm...the Hot N Tots, Flicker Shads, Flicker Minnow gets deep enough on their own to troll for walleye? I'm sure some guys are using planer boards at Pymatuning?
 
My question is...anybody running jets or dipsy divers in smaller lakes in NWPA? I know they are mainly for the great Lakes...but Two Mile/Justus Lake has holdover trout, and in the summer the trout go fairly deep. That lake is over 50 feet deep near the dam. I think there was a post on here few years back, and one guy commented saying they used downriggers at Two Mile??
 
 
Found a video of a guy using a #1 dipsy in a lake for rainbow trout in summertime, and he was using a in-line spinner with the dipsy to get down 18-20 feet. I was thinking of using smaller crank baits....but the ones I use for trolling for crappie/trout, cant get deep enough on their own.
 
Also, thinking of trying them out at Kahle trolling for what little walleyes are left....as its gets fairly deep in the middle and towards the dam.
 
I was thinking of #20 jets, and mini-dipsy along with a #1 dipsy. I only have a small boat, and don't use planer boards...so only rod holders. Anybody else ever try this...or am I just crazy?
 
 
Thanks!

The boat that I bought, came with a few dipsey divers, trolling rods and two down riggers, so I have experimented myself too (and lost some gear).  They work great, until you snag one, which may be before you end up catching any fish on them (which happened on the first one I tried)...  Even worse is snagging with 30lb braid, and neither wanting to give...  Like said, the inland reservoirs have so many depth changes, the snags are brutal.  I had down rigger balls get hung up, so stopped with them.  I just recently put on some lead core to two trolling rods, hoping they might have a little less chance of hanging up.  They require dedicated trolling combos though, which fortunately, I had.  In line trolling weights might get you down to where you want, if you don't have any trolling combos laying around and don't want to fork out for new dedicated rods.  I have experimented with clip on trolling weights too.  These are a bit cheaper than losing dipseys, but don't have the control/charts that Dipseys have.  Although experiment enough, and you will probably work out a formula.  Line counters would help you figure out a formula.  You can also measure your spool to the first eyelet, and pull line from your spool, counting each time you pulled from spool to eyelet and figuring out how much line is out.  Find a nice flat area that you are familiar with (road bed, ect) and get your offering down to where it is just ticking.  You'll at least know how much to let out at those depths, for a starting point.  Keep a log book (or note pad on your phone) so you can remember how much line worked for you.  

ShenangoEyes
Redneck trolling weights has a chart online for snap weights. It'll get you in the ballpark. I use snap weights a good bit throughout the year, let out 30-50' of line and snap the weight on. Most of the time I'll just let it free spool til it hits bottom and then crank up a couple times and run that way.

Don't forget about the old 3 way rig too. Its just as effective as any other way to get deep, with minimal loss on snags

 
 
Do you use these Redneck ones? or a different type? These Rednecks weight look interesting...might have to buy a couple.

http://www.ohiogamefishin...iy-snap-weight.281510/

Better be trolling for some big fish if you're going to use dipsies. Usually takes about 4-5# of pressure to trip mine and then that's a lot of lead between you and the fish too. Downriggers would be better, but you'd need some light releases and need to monitor the depth constantly so the balls don't get stuck on structure. Believe me, I've seen what's happened to friends' boats if they snag a ball on the bottom while trolling, and it's not pretty, or cheap. I'd just use diving cranks with a big splitshot 6-8' up for trolling smaller lakes. Or 3-way rigs, can never go wrong with them, drifting or trolling.

I don't use redneck trolling weights, only referenced the chart. I use a red off shore clip with an inline trolling weight attached.

You don't really even need the clips, as a rubber band can get the job done too.

That's on 10# mono. Hope you weren't using braid. I'm not sold on my book either.

chauncy
That's on 10# mono. Hope you weren't using braid. I'm not sold on my book either.

 
I even went out and bought the same 10lb. mono the precision trolling team uses in testing