Today. 11/23\16 salmon river

You were not using the "lift and set"  I bet!!!

I hit my like button, Clint.

Where in town did you get your boat motor fixed

Clint S
Seen alot more Ho's than the previous two years put together too

Friday I too saw tons of HO's on the LFZ while there,but contrary to their reputation for being aggresive hitters they would n't hit anything I tried.Sat. I fished the UFZ for a couple hours and saw no fish in the river or on the line,there are a FEW up there but not as many as I thought there should be considering the LFZ and the hatchery is loaded!Why they are not going to the Upper zone I don't know but I got tired of the whole thing and packed it in and drove home today,the businesses up there will not see any more of my money this year.I think the WARM water temps is effecting the bite and looking at the weather forcast that's not going to improve soon.

20 for 100 and you think that reflected the "bite".  We got the opposite of a Chinese river here, they have the Yangtze, we got the SeeYank!  Lots of people working for the telephone company listenin' to Glenn Campbell !
 
But it sounds like there has been a good run to date if there are that many fish in the SR section of Beaverdam Brook, which extends to at least the driftboat launch!

Hmmmm- now having a problem finding that 20/100 report-Gonzo---
or perhaps I was real excited at all the action and just re read the stuff too fast and missed it
Every day it just keeps getting Hotter and Hotter.
Schizamm wata year- hurry on up before the fish eat all the fishermen. lol
 
WILL be up soon but my expectations are in accordance with reality as told by the good folks who contribute right here.
( love the Yankzee thingie)

And some dude broke another  dudes jaw at the town pool the other day.  Dawn is gone , but the violence continues

Going to keep my reports to this post. Don't know how many, but I like to reference them and it will be easier. Today I fished Pineville area. There were more fishers than fish and movement was next to nil. Most of the fish were holed up and surrounded just getting picked off one by one.  I went to town and it was LOADED with people ashhole to elbow.  there was more action in town than up river. With the low water it will not be good as they are going to get picked off before they can move up in numbers.  FWIW the LFZ and Hatchery seemed to be Loaded up good.

Thanks Clint for the report and glad you got out a bit . If I lived closer , I would also .
Hope some success will come your way .
Jack , the only reasoning I could imagine:
The fish are a resource of many things . As I can surmise many people are in the area . Many people come with yellow ropes . There is no way they want to stop that .
The control they have is for folks that don't bring a rope .
Sadly , it affects those folks negatively . It's not the fact they closed the fly zone , which when I first started was never an option . It's just that things don't seem to be changing from " the it is what it is style attitude " and fish accordingly .

Ah , but the ropes would stay home .
Gotta say . When it was legal to snag it was far more prospers to the economy .
Every lot had food , drink and cleaning options , some paid you back with a female .
In the late 80's we thought it was barbaric to just hook a fish by any means possible .
The voice was loud to protect the steelhead , Browns and out of season lake trout that ran the tribs . Really , nobody cared about protecting those dead put and take salmon , even back then ..The reasoning given about stopping snagging was that , " they will strike " , the sell to the economic reason was , it will provide a better fishing environment and draw economic income from higher end sales , better rods , reels , line , tackle , clientele etc ..
Believe me , I seen the protest petitions from the economy and even law suits against the DEC over these issues .
The fishery is once again at a huge crossroads ,
Now people are pulling back from reasons and decisions made in the fishery .
I am with anyone that thinks it's not ok if someone thinks it's " ok " to hook a fish by any means and only keep those by legal terms and well publicized .. There is a problem in the fishery .
The problem for me is , where are all these fishin the lake ?? , lol
If anyone thinks they suck in the tribs , I drown in the free lake

Well I put together a trip to Black lake  Friday to Tuesday instead of going up to the river and fishing. Crappies and perch.

Not going that deep Trev but I think the struggles on the lake as well are going to turn some $$ away there for a few years anyway .
The trib guys with yellow ropes will be ok .

Sorry to hear about changing plans and derailing your thread . Perch taste much better IMO though and fun to catch :)

Stocking cuts don't bother me in the least- wish they were deeper to benefit bait stock
Its NOT about fish numbers.
Am not a numbers guy- a fish here or perhaps another there on a different day and I'm satisfied.
Sometimes walk tribs without a rod just to watchem spawn.
Enjoy the whole picture up there.
It was simply time to sell- nothing to do with the fishery.
Actually cutting Kings as little as was done and more or less leaving everything else similar to the past MAY doom Kings for a time.
 
Those slashers downriver are taking everything not just Kings.
Likely more Hos, Browns  and Steel than before too since there are less Chinook to target.
Got no faith in an AS fishery- lousy returns for all the efforts.

Another thing I have noticed is the lack of steel. I know numbers wise they don't show up till later but I usually see and hear of a few being caught

Trevor I think o remember a slide the DEC had a recall them saying the next year wad a banner catch rate. In the. 80'S??