Worst day of fishing I have ever had

I Went to Conemaugh dam and did not get one bite for 3 hours. I stopped fishing at around 10:20pm and decided I would spot deer along the way home. Then to make my day worst I get pulled over by the game commission at 11:06pm for spotting. I explained to the guy I was just spotting deer along the ride home from fishing since it is a long drive and did not realize it was already 11:00pm(which is the curfew for spotting). Then i went on to explain how bad fishing was and how I do not have a lot of money ($200 and bills to pay at the moment that are overdue) and cannot afford any fines and I do not have any criminal background and am not a bad person and asked if he could just give me a warning and I would not let it happen again. But none of what I said made any difference to him and he acted like I was some criminal and gave me and my uncle a citation.

Yeah i am probably going to fight it. Its taking forever for the citation to come in the mail its been stressing me out i just want to go and get everything dealt with. The more I am around law enforcement the more I lose respect for them. There is so much they could be doing and so little that gets done then on top of things they sometimes just hand out fines and citations just to make peoples lives miserable.

so you broke the law.  now you're complaining that they don't do enough, while they're doing something... did your vehicle not have a clock in it?  
 
ya, it sucks you got a ticket.  but the officer was doing HIS job, as you claim they don't do.  c'mon man.

GilliganJR
so you broke the law.  now you're complaining that they don't do enough, while they're doing something... did your vehicle not have a clock in it?   ya, it sucks you got a ticket.  but the officer was doing HIS job, as you claim they don't do.  c'mon man.

l would hate to be related to you... what do you do when a family member shows up 6 minutes late for a family get together beat them with a baseball bat and take $200 from them as a penalty?

i didnt get hit with a bat but them robbing me of $200 from me and my uncle is a big enough hit! (had guns pointed at me my 60 y/o disabled uncle and my 2 nephews that are 13 and 16 years old)....

zdub7
gilliganjr i said he pulled me over at 11:06 that was taken from my clock from inside my vehicle which is the correct time. i am pretty sure the full reason they are to hired is to keep bad people from doing bad horrible things like poaching, litering, tresspassing, baiting, hunting to close to houses or using unsafe hunting procedures making it dangerous to them or others.

I personally do not beleave EVERY person that makes a little mistake by going 6mph over the speed limit or 6inches on to someones unmarked property line that they was completely unaware of or shows up one day to work 6 minutes late should be heavily punished by law and be considered a criminal.

Quit making excuses.  You broke the law & got caught, suck it up.

Nothing wrong with spotting deer during legal hours.

yes they did but thats just standard procedure i assume? because it is dangerous appraoching a potentional poacher at night that could have been armed(but that wasnt the case) BUT i dont understand why with being held at gun point and scaring the hell out of us that wasnt enough and still wrote a citation just the expereince of that was enough to make me not want to spot again all together

thanks for all the advice and for wishing me luck ill need it. i just went to the judges office yesterday and plead not guilty. I just hope it will not get put on my record and i dont get the full penalty of $200 + the $50 costs of trail.

the title of this thread should really be: I broke the law and want some sympathy.  
 
like dnymph said, if you go in there and give some sob story they're gonna toss you out.  submit humbly and apologize, and you lost track of time, you may get some leniency.  but i expect you'll give your sob story.  

With that attitude I hope you get what you deserve wounder what attitude you had with wardens probably why the didn't cut you a break

i just needed somewhere to vent my anger over 2 **** game wardens the other guy they was with wasan old guy i talked with him for about 30 minutes and was nice as can be

Relax and heed the advice from the positve suggestions and let the negatve comment go for what it is.

One way for a law officer to prove thier worth is to "write tickets". Apparently you are a "victim of circumstance" in that your arresting officer has little to show for his time, he is absolutely zero tolerance, or possibly he had a bad day at home.

Regardless, you provided the officer the opportunity to pull you over.

I'd like to suggest you speak with someone of knowledge who you trust and ask thier opinion, as to how you should present your case. Assuming on my part, that you are not being represented by a attorney.

Keep in mind an attitude by any other name is still an attitude.

Stay to the point and keep it simple. You broke the law by spot lighting 6 minutes past the deadline, you have no prior arrest (I hope), you didn't' intend on breaking the law and will certainly be more aware of the law in the future. You ask for the hearing in hope the court will reduce the charge to a warning and a reduction in the fine.

Keep eye contact with the judge, stand still including not flailing your hands about and DO NOT blame the arresting officer for the problem you created.

Also remember that you will be speaking to; "Your Honor", unless the judge finds you guilty and your hearing is over then he and the arresting officer is an aszhat. lol


With any luck at all, the arresting officer's supervisor will see there is a good chance you will win the case and the PGC won't appear.

However, should you have my luck, the arresting officer is the supervisor and I'd be calling for bail.

Only kidding, be cool, get some advice from persons you respect and good luck.


Spot lighting happens at my residence with crop fields to my south and pastures to my north. It is not uncommon to have a dozen lights shining in the fields during one night.

Not only do I see motor vehicles but I see Dutch buggies and two carts spotlighting.

Only one incident where a spotlight was played up my driveway for two nights. The third night I greeted the spotters with a light show of my own.

For some chyts and giggles I'll place one of my 3D in my field... sometimes two. 🎃

BeenThereDoneThat.
One way for a law officer to prove thier worth is to "write tickets". Apparently you are a "victim of circumstance" in that your arresting officer has little to show for his time, he is absolutely zero tolerance, or possibly he had a bad day at home.

yeah i feel you might be right about that. and once again thank you for all your advice!

Slabseeker
This whole story is questionable. Fining someone who is only six minutes past hours is allowable, but not  usually the case. Usually a warning would be given for six minutes. And I have a real problem believing that guns were drawn and pointed at anyone for a spotlighting violation. The only way that would have happened is if there is more to the story than we are hearing. If someone is stopped and cops an attitude or makes threats then I can see a fine instead of a warning. If there was shooting in the area and they felt your vehicle may be the suspect vehicle they may have drawn their handguns while approaching your vehicle, but pointing it at you is unlikely. If this all went down exactly like you said then you need to be reporting it to the PGC regional office these officers are out of. Pointing guns at someone for a spotlighting violation is not SOP. I am leaning toward calling BS on this story.

 
zdubs must be from the everybody wins in T-ball generation....you know its not his fault !!!!