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2015/12/09 10:06:08 (permalink)

River Fishing

I've been hitting the Allegheny River the last few weeks for some eyes.  I've had almost no success.  Usually by this time of year I'm into them.  They just don't seem stacked up yet. Anyone out there having any success?
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    Chris Johnson
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    Re: River Fishing 2015/12/09 11:59:24 (permalink)
    They've been in thick for a while now. I rarely target them (this year 3-4x, most in the past ten years) but the usual spots are packed with shore fishermen. At times HPD looks like lower Walnut.

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    Re: River Fishing 2015/12/09 12:16:28 (permalink)
    Wonder if people are eating those walleye.  I guess it isn't much different at this point than eating Erie walleye... the 1 meal/month advisory for PCBs is the same.  In fact the only fish from Erie that doesn't have that warning is yellow perch, which is a bit sketchy.  Swimming in the same water eating the same food chain and all.  
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    Re: River Fishing 2015/12/09 12:34:07 (permalink)
    From what I have seen several are taken to be eaten.

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    Re: River Fishing 2015/12/09 12:34:36 (permalink)
    I fish farther upstream.  I'm sure if they are stacked up down there they are stacked up where I'm fishing also.  I'll keep at it and figure them out eventually.  I'm hoping for a mild winter so we can stay on the rivers longer this year.  Last year I quit fishing during muzzleloader season and was not able to get out after that b/c the river froze up.
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    Re: River Fishing 2015/12/09 19:31:48 (permalink)
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    Wonder if people are eating those walleye.  I guess it isn't much different at this point than eating Erie walleye... the 1 meal/month advisory for PCBs is the same.  In fact the only fish from Erie that doesn't have that warning is yellow perch, which is a bit sketchy.  Swimming in the same water eating the same food chain and all.  




    It isn't really based on the water way, more on where the fish sits on the top predator list. Larger predators such as walleye consume a lot of small fish, this is where the collect the PCB from, yellow perch are collecting it from just minnows. Now the walleye eat perch which already have some concentrated PCB in them and they also eat minnows with very little so they are going to have larger concentrations of PCB. With that said it is a little strange since you can harvest a lot of perch if I am not mistaken. This is more towards predatory fish, not herbivorous fish.

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    Re: River Fishing 2015/12/16 14:48:10 (permalink)
    I fished mid afternoon on the Ohio River on Saturday.  I caught three walleye all right around 30".  The three biggest I have ever caught.  They would only hit big suckers, wouldn't touch a fathead or small suckers.  I lost another one the same size, those were the only 4 hits i had. 
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    Re: River Fishing 2015/12/23 08:19:52 (permalink)
    Speaking of River Fishing, anyone doing good on 'lunges? I hit some creek mouths last weekend and all i saw all weekend was two little bass in shallow water. Not a sign of a single musky or walleye. Fishing live bait (Stonerollers) plus casting lures (custom Jerkbaits, floating rapalas, shadow raps, daredevles, and everything else I had on me).
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    Re: River Fishing 2015/12/23 12:04:02 (permalink)
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    I fished mid afternoon on the Ohio River on Saturday.  I caught three walleye all right around 30".  The three biggest I have ever caught.  They would only hit big suckers, wouldn't touch a fathead or small suckers.  I lost another one the same size, those were the only 4 hits i had. 




    wow congrats! , those are some hogs! any pictures would love to see

    Got Walleye???
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    Re: River Fishing 2015/12/25 09:00:36 (permalink)
    My two boys and I have been on the river every weekend since before Thanksgiving, and we've popped at least 150 walleyes, but no real size. Off the mouth of the barge cove across the river from the Cowanshaneck Creek launch, from 15' out to about 22' is good, and at Freeport off the mouth of the River Forest cove in anywhere from 15' to 30'. But it does get frustrating to catch so many undersize fish. Didn't do much good on pool 6 from Crooked Creek up to #7 at Kittanning, and we've not hit Pool 5 up to Clinton Lock 6 as there is no public launch on that pool. We did manage a couple of limits of just legal fish for a fry, but we've not gotten any monsters yet. You let them run with that 6-8" sucker 'til you figure they have to have it good, and WHIFF !!, you bring in a chewed up sucker. My plan was to get out Thursday as I have the long weekend, bought $23 worth of bait, but it thunder stormed Wed. night and the river's up at least 2 feet, so I'll get back out Sat. & Sunday.
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    Re: River Fishing 2015/12/26 11:02:14 (permalink)
    Well, the "best laid plans" went out the window on the only good weekend we might have for while. The river is absolutely blown out, up at least 3 1/2 feet; mud and debris comin' down. May be able to salvage at least one day on either Lake Arthur or Mahoning.
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    Re: River Fishing 2015/12/26 20:05:54 (permalink)
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    I fished mid afternoon on the Ohio River on Saturday.  I caught three walleye all right around 30".  The three biggest I have ever caught.  They would only hit big suckers, wouldn't touch a fathead or small suckers.  I lost another one the same size, those were the only 4 hits i had. 




    wow congrats! , those are some hogs! any pictures would love to see




    No doubt me too nice catch!...hey emitch, try stinger hooks. yep, looks ugly and not natural but they do work...walleyes are just like rock bass....ive had em in an aquarium setting...they lay on the bottom all day chillin...once in a while they get active and eat...they eat like they hate it....creek chubs are pigs and eat anything and everything instantly...walleyes chomp and sit...like a spider...its mine now, ill gulp it when I want. With a stinger you feel the thump or slight tug and nail em...no more pulled out of mouth minnow or sucker

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    Re: River Fishing 2015/12/27 13:07:06 (permalink)
    Meatball, we've gone with stingers and still managed to miss fish. I went smaller with a 5/8 oz. jig with a spinner and a #8 treble for a stinger. I got one on the jig, one on the stinger, and somehow manage to miss one completely that was running away with the bait!
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    Re: River Fishing 2015/12/28 09:58:26 (permalink)
    These are the walleye I caught 2 weeks ago.  I was wading out pretty far on a shallow point.  Went back yesterday and there was no way to wade out to where the walleye were.  Water was backed up into the creek that was normally shallow.  Figured I'd try in the creek and caught 4 hybrids, 2 smaller and two nice ones.





     
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    Re: River Fishing 2015/12/28 17:58:19 (permalink)
    Nice fish! !, that spot looks familiar
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    Re: River Fishing 2015/12/28 19:32:02 (permalink)
     Super............

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    Re: River Fishing 2015/12/28 20:43:53 (permalink)
    Nice pics and fish! great job thanks for sharing crawlerman those fish were definitely on an eating mission. Nice catch...ive spent my share of time fishin that point/shelf by boat, right place right time good spot, very nice catch.
     
    emitch, big suckers and stingers too no fish geez...8-12lb flouro leader nose hook minnow/sucker small hooks #8 let bait swim control where they swim let slow gentile biters swallow...wait em out they will gulp...hope teeth don't cut line lol...play natures devil...or  be there at the right time when they are hungry and snap and gulp at anything lol

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    Re: River Fishing 2015/12/28 20:57:00 (permalink)
    Meatball when I see your Avatar and you mention fishing from a boat, that's just more than I want to see. (LMAO)

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    Re: River Fishing 2015/12/29 11:25:29 (permalink)
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    Nice fish! !, that spot looks familiar

    Before Hurricane Ivan, that spot used to be ridiculous.  Actually about 30 yards down stream.  Possibly the best spot that I ever fished.
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    Re: River Fishing 2015/12/29 12:18:54 (permalink)
    ever since the pipe got filled up things haven't been the same...there were days when I would catch 100+ white bass down there before the hurricane
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    Re: River Fishing 2015/12/29 14:35:30 (permalink)
    I hear you.  100 white bass with 10 hybrids and a walleye or two mixed in, were common.  If a school of baby shad would show up at the pipe, things got insane.  I was so upset after it clogged up.  
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    Re: River Fishing 2015/12/29 15:04:41 (permalink)
    Dam that sounds like a blast, i never hit that spot before it got all screwed up from the hurricane. Wish i would have. Pretty slow down there now, at least the times I've fished there
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    Re: River Fishing 2015/12/29 20:17:58 (permalink)
    It still produces look at crawlermans pics...just a different approach...they are still there and they still eat...different underwater topography is all...its still a creek mouth...but I know what you mean pork...they sure did congregate in that big hole. There are many others just like it in the three rivers area but that one is easy to get to
     
    btdt the whole boat shakes while I fish...vibration brings em in lmao...that's why the wife likes fishin with me

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    Re: River Fishing 2015/12/29 20:19:20 (permalink)
    I used to beach my boat to fish that place, it was that good

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    Re: River Fishing 2015/12/29 20:21:49 (permalink)
    I still cringe when I see guys standing literally right on the drop..it drops 22' straight down within mere feet from shore

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    Re: River Fishing 2015/12/29 22:08:57 (permalink)
    Dont know about standing on any drop meatball but i usually wade out to the rock island that sticks up and fish the main channel, never really had too much luck fishing near the pipe, theres a big ol stump/pile of wood in the middle of the creek mouth that im sure has claimed plenty of hooks/lures as well, overall i think its a cool spot even though it gets hammered with pressure cuz its so easy to access
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    Re: River Fishing 2016/01/04 10:39:20 (permalink)
    I went back Saturday and the fish were gone.  The creek temp dropped and the bait/fish were no longer in the creek.  River was still to high for wading.  I did catch the biggest sheep head I've ever caught, that was the only hit of the day.  I might hit Freeport or Harmarville next weekend.
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    Re: River Fishing 2016/01/04 10:56:50 (permalink)
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    I went back Saturday and the fish were gone.  The creek temp dropped and the bait/fish were no longer in the creek.  River was still to high for wading.  I did catch the biggest sheep head I've ever caught, that was the only hit of the day.  I might hit Freeport or Harmarville next weekend.


    How big was the Drum?
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    Re: River Fishing 2016/01/04 13:45:42 (permalink)

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    Re: River Fishing 2016/01/04 18:21:23 (permalink)
    Nice fish! We do pretty good targeting them below lock 3 in the summer, but I've never heard of any being caught during the winter before.
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