rumors?

I have been hearing there was another big steel head die off the last couple weeks.
I haven't been up, can anyone clarify?

lol, thanks Bob....pretty sure you are right

I'm saying there ain't no fish in that lake.. I fished it every week from June-Sept..

Speaking of rumors I was driving my nephews friend home and  there are now no parking signs and posted signs from Altmar to Ellis. The posted signs have Land first or land trust on them. I sure hope that PFR got signed over...........

I was in the understanding PFR was there but not parking and access through the field . That was always a landowner priveledge given, and possibly take back

The only thing we know right now is that there are a **** of a lot less fish in the river than there should be at this time of year, and it has been this way all fall, salmon into steel..  The why and wherefore I will trust to the pros.  I saw the fourth dead steelhead of my fall today, but have not seen swirlers this year.  But I've talked to three different Canadians down here because the fishing is off on the north shore, so it is not just the SR hatchery.  Looks like we need to vitamin B bomb the entire ecosystem! (enough suds 4 me.) 

First time in years that I have no plans for the SR in the coming year,that will probably change but not just yet.

That is about right on the money, unfortunately.

for me as it mostly always has been it's the experience that has been the factor..
I will fish the water all day without a bite if I don't have that X factor, Flip side is if I'm sharing water in a conga line and everyone is cool and playing nice , it's a great experience..
Lucky said best, Etiquette matters.. I don't want to be a stone face trying to hold my rock in a crowd and believe me, it hurts to drive 360 miles to get skunked too, BTDT countless times .. Regardless , if its a good experience it's a success !!!
I bought a rickety Lake boat to continue my adventures of 35 years on the Great Lake.. It gets nuts for some people out there as it does in the river, thankfully I can just power to deserted waters and jump overboard without anyone giving a ****... I will figure out that fishery even it means jigging 30 lb lakers :)
 
Good luck to everyone that wets a line or takes a walk in the woods..
 

Have any of you seen the west coast shows, particularly BC, where they troll with fly rods and centerpin reels?  Interesting and effective way to wrestle with those big kings. 
Another show the guy uses a fly rod & line stack mending down to the strike zone.
 
HT- I don't see why jigging over deep water wouldn't be productive.  Yes you have to work for them but to me it breaks up the monotony of trolling.  I wonder if working a parachute jig like you would for stripers would be effective.  Nothing ventured, nothing gained.    

troutbum21
Have any of you seen the west coast shows, particularly BC, where they troll with fly rods and centerpin reels?  Interesting and effective way to wrestle with those big kings. 
Another show the guy uses a fly rod & line stack mending down to the strike zone.
 
HT- I don't see why jigging over deep water wouldn't be productive.  Yes you have to work for them but to me it breaks up the monotony of trolling.  I wonder if working a parachute jig like you would for stripers would be effective.  Nothing ventured, nothing gained.    

It's called mooching.
They ususlly run plug cut herring slowly rolling for bait.

I'm thinking about free drifting live bait on the bottom . Most likely off a 3 way swivel or an egg sinker . Need to figure out the right weight that will bottom bounce. Maybe start with a 3oz and up from there. If I can stay somewhat stationary or drift slowly then an airplane jig , bucktail or a diamond jig used for saltwater .
We shall see

HT this is the lure that was hot out of port Angeles Wa when I used to get to fish out there.
 



BuzzBomb Deadly Sonic Lure 
Never did it but used to talk with the ocean boys.
It free slides on the line and you hard pop jig it as far as you can then keep the line tight on the drop which is when they hit it
 

I guess us fishermen from Ohio should just avoid the SR next year?

I had great success with size 10 black stone flies in the church hole.....I am busy tying for next year.