PGC Head Scratchet

Data that is more accurate and telling leaves less room for them to maneuver. Somehow I don't believe that would be in their best interest.

When it became known they had to, or wouldn't get another license until they did, I think they'd get the picture rather quickly.
 
There is no excuse not to.  None.   Other than it doesn't fit in with the agenda.

I think they should do 1 week antlered and 2 days of antlerless for a while till the herd improves. They could always extend antlerless based on deer harvest like in the past. I think there are a lot falling to diasese and predetures.
 

Dr. Trout
If you only get 30 some percent to report success, how do expect folks to report negatives ?????????

Take off the PGC googles for a second there Doc.

By requiring that CWD permit holders report negstives that points to the PGC having complete confidence in people reporting negstives. That is why this is such a head scratcher. On one hand the PGC says that it does not trust hunters to turn in reports so it has to use a formula to calculate the harvest and on the other it completely trusts us to turn in both positive and negative reports. So which is it because it can't be both.

At the very least, since the CWD permit process is fairly limited (the 4000 permits in DMA2 did not sell out), it will be easy to come up with an "actual" reporting ratio -- this many permits were sold and there were that many positive reports and so many negative reports -- that this data driven ratio could then be used to extrapolate the reporting for general hunting.

Should that data show that only 30%, as you claim, is reporting, they can say, "see, we told you,". But if that data comes in somewhere in the 50-75% range, they will have to adjust their formulas. And, goodness forbid, if the teporting comes in at something north of 80%, especially when it was not well publicized that negative reporting is required (I didn't know that until I read the report card and no other person that I know that has s CWD permit knew that), they will need to publicly admit that they have been wrong (I won't say lying, because they might just be that dumb) for more than a decade and the entire deer program will need re-evaluated -- hopefully by someone who replaces the person that let the numbers go so wrong for so long.

MANDATORY is the KEY word in any state - no report one way or the other- no tag next year.
They did it here years back and never enforced it either. Forgot to send it in once and thought I was outa luck the next season- nope- bought a tag as usual.
Kinda made the whole reporting system and stats and theories based upon it meaningless drivel IMHO.
Yea- was happy to be able to get the new tag but also kind of disappointed in the system at the same time.

Send your unused tags to:

Senator Richard Alloway II, Chairman, Senate Game and Fisheries Committee.

Maybe he cares?

The PGC must not ever need a license increase. Using round numbers, if the PGC reports 300,000 harvests and 70% came from non reporters, that means there are 210,000 fines at $25 a whack or $5.25 million per year just hanging out there for the taking.

Even if they collect on only 10% that pays for the one computer guru needed to discover the scoff laws and send out the fines, about an extra dozen song birdie biologists, and a heck of a Christmas party.