boots

I have an old pair of muck boots that are on their last legs and have been patched multiple times and leak very badly. Can these be worn over SF waders and provide better warmth. I know they will fill with water, but they already have holes in them and they fit fairly tight at the shins. I would fill the rest of the space with socks   Good idea, bad idea. They have I think 1200grams of insulation.

I though I might try them and just take my regular waders boots too. The worse that can happen is they are rotten and I just go change them out. Not too worried about the chafing as they fit fairly snug especially at the shins. They may be ok in spots where I do not walk around alot.
 

The cold water that would seep in between the boot and the neo foot would hold the cold in and gain you nothing over normal wading boots. I already tried this. I been around plenty of cow sheet, too.  Muck boots actually were attached to the best cold weather  bootfoot waders the Simms Extremes, which are back on the market for about 8oo bucks. The difference between  using just the Mucks and the Simms is they actually act as an insulation factor. If you stayed up on the wall or on a gravel bar, I think they'd be good.  I would save the discomfort and just buy electric socks or use toe warmers, Clint. The toe warmers don't last all day, (they say 6 hrs.) but you seem to fish in 2-4 hr, sessions anyway. I'm going to try the toe warmers at some point, as my feet get cold at times , just not painfully so.  If you start to go more in the winter, you might consider getting some bootfoot neos. Just because I turn into a clumsy, sweaty sausage in them doesn't mean they don't keep you warmer, they're  just not for me.  I put pretty high end, thought out, and well tested layers under my waders, so I  can get away with the stocking foots.  Maybe Andy could lend you a pair of his neos and you could check out the difference.