What Steelhead ???

Got in Thurs late in the rain and temps in the 30s. It snowed a coupla times over the past few days but today (sun) it got into the 40s- still snowed again.
 Friday crowds not bad at all  anyplace except for  upper Vines to the Church hole. Didn't fish it but watched the Church conga line and only saw a very few dark  winter looking Steel. Hey - whats with all the  weights and sacs in the Zone ?? 
 Saturday only picked up some chubs. Crowd up river looked like King season but it thinned a lot as ya went down.
Always figured if the chubs were out and active it was likely no larger fish are around= even if they aren't being chased its seems likely the predator fish would keep them in hiding.
 Never even saw a fish of any kind running  in the river fishing lower vines and mid river. Covered a lot of water too.
 One guy said he hit fresh Kings in one of the Sandys Friday.
DARN -those numbers of Steel a week or two back musta run up to winter holds with very few following behind.
DSR reports are nice but a small pod  here and there running in gets so spread over the miles of river that ya don't even notice them.  Cept for a lucky few who happen to be in the right spots at the right time  or know of regular holds and work them hard.
Had to be  putting  stuff in front of unseen fish in deep runs here and there but no takers-thousand casts and only the chubs. Think the cold front of several days in the 30s mighta had some affect too.
Glad I got up to winterize as there is a polar vortex supposed to hit there mid week with temps into the 20s.
Likely it for me for quite a while.
 Good luck to all going up- if ya want a fish instead of a fishing experience ya may as well get in a line upriver.

Arctic air is what I remember hearing. Trev, my son caught a creek chub also and ended up having some other smaller ones nibbling his fly. Made me think the same thing... That fish are not there in "big" numbers.

I got a few saturday....fished a couple hours in the morning then a couple before dark...there were a lot of guys out for a post salmon week end though

lol, yea crap might have gone down then
 

bear, did you get called out in public for possibly being the twobob?

Good luck in the woods, HT, I'll see ya on the hard water. I'm glad you got a coho. The couple I hooked last trip made it for me. They give you a run for your money. You should be use to the beginner's luck thing by now, just shows you're a good teacher.

lol
yep dime i did
i was at the altmar inn with some freinds, the lotac group was there
i was talking to some of the old salmon crazy crew and introduced my self as bigbear before i got banned and one of them said...so who are you on there now? twobob
i said no, he said "sure, no one get back on there after a ban just to cause trouble...right troyp?"

sometimes ya just gotta look where everyone else isn't
i was fishing below the long bridge saturday morning....i had a snag and was re-tying when two guys walked right through the little slot i was fishing.....10 minutes later i got a nice hen there
 

Thought bout going that low Bear and passed after a long upriver hike or two. Havent fished down there all season.
Actually came very close to visiting the tail of the town pool as no one else was in  there but enough was enough on the tired legs..

I lurk there Bob= you generally talk about fishing and ethics- cant figure out what the heck some of the others are talking about although they seem to enjoy doing it -- lol

Yea I really take everything there with a grain of salt. If you post there you may get some crap, but that's the way it is. Some of it is in fun what is not I just ignore. If you can't take it either lurk or just have fun.  

Clint better not post your snagging video on that site.

11/13/2014


after the cold front that moved in recently, the day was a bit chilly, with occasional snowflakes that did not stick . . . however, clients reported an improvement in fishing over the past couple of days . . . lower as well as mid sections of the river produced Steelheads today, with the middle section producing much better . . . reports of fishing outside of the DSR was fairly dismal, with prospective customers checking in throughout the afternoon to see if there were any fish in the river, and at the DSR specifically . . . today, those answers were "yes" and "yes" . . . so far, no reports from any clients who
have fished the upper sections today . . . 
 
I will have to say this is a little self serving

Certainly, when I am having a successful afternoon with fish in front of me and biting, I always leave and go make inquiries of an overpriced snobfarm, and tell them how poor things are upriver!  Just to handicap myself, I also always leave fish to find fish!  And I would never consider the free fishing I find to be in any way as desirable as what I get for dropping the price of a nice evening with my wife  for second hand access (the people staying  at lodges and the guides get the first run spots.) and death marches in either direction.  Of course, it is better in the gold plated petting zoo, just ask Chartist, he only ended up elbow bending at the Altmar because of the gourmet cooking and extensive ale selection!  Oh, and American businesses, especially ones run by politicians, have never engaged in truth bending or self promotion, they are only doing this for the good of the fishermen and the fishery.
 
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I don't argue with private property, but the water flowing over it belongs to the people of the State of New York, and the fish swimming up it were stocked with user fees paid by fishermen.  And they are the ones who posted the snooty report.  Personally I would close the river from the black hole to route 3 the way things have gone with the senator's preserve, the "we'll keep it affordable for the average joe" story we heard when they opened it has  turned into just so much more fertilizer. 
 
I don't even understand why "Crown grants" still convey rights, I recall learning in High School history about something that happened back around 1776 that took away all that crown power. It is one thing to use your fishing license to access the fish from your property, it is an entirely different thing to turn a public fishery into a private commercial enterprise.
 
Just sayin.....
 
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