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2014/11/04 20:24:24 (permalink)

10 or 11

I m thinking of getting a new pole. My current one is a 9 footer. I think the longer pole will help me keep the line off the water and roll cast a bit better. I fish alone 90% of the time and landing fish is an issue as many places I have to net them myself. So give me some pros and cons of a 10 or 11 foot pole. Is the extra foot going to be enough to make a difference or should I go 2. 

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    hot tuna
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    Re: 10 or 11 2014/11/04 21:18:13 (permalink)
    When you say pole what type are you thinking . Spin, cast or fly ?
    I just went through a bunch tonight and I'm eyeing my 30 plus year old st croix 8'6" 6-17# spin rod. It's limber enough to drift, strong enough cast plugs or spinners and plenty of backbone.
    It was my dads rod , he and I have played many chrome then salmon on that tool.
    I like it most because its light, strong, limber , versitle and short ( for a lakes rod )..
    Most all other spin are 10' or 10' 6" in various weights, strengths from noodle to med- light .
    Gotta say the 8'6" freels most comfortable .

    I have 2 - 13 footers . 1 Spey and 1 fiberglass spin, they have caught fish but see little to no use. Dislike the length and control for myself.
    Fly rods are all 9'6" or 10' . Thought about the 11' switch but at this stage , I'm not really needing another .

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    Re: 10 or 11 2014/11/04 21:34:59 (permalink)
    Fly pole. I have an 11 spin I use for floats that I like alot.

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    Re: 10 or 11 2014/11/04 21:37:41 (permalink)
    I own 2 8wts and 3 7wts all are 10footers.
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    Re: 10 or 11 2014/11/05 06:45:18 (permalink)
    The 11 is likely to lead to more rock massaging steel. I put an extension on my net handle. The extra foot is good at mending and working a longer line,  especially when swinging flies. However, handling an 11' rod single hand can get tiring, and I think you'll find any of the road to recovery you haven't traveled will quickly be causing pain. Pain to get through the woods, too. I like mine for  various reasons, but at this point in the season have gone back to the 10' 7 wt. The 10' is a gain for the reasons you stated, Clint, and also will protect tippet better with the longer tip section. It's not the tip that's longer , but the taper is spread out over the longer length. I'd highly recommend trying the rod out in the lot with an old line before buying. I've never asked nearer Plasky but Malinda doesn't mind you taking them outside and even has reels loaded up for lot casting. If you're looking for a one rod to do all, an 8 will do better on salmon and big steel, but will likely be too heavy for light tippet. You could break out the 9 footer for sharks.  I'd try a 10' 7 and see what you think. If you have an 8 wt. salmon/steel line, don't hesitate to try it on a 7. They'll work better on rolls and flips with less than 20' of the belly out, especially with a little weight or bigger flies. 
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    Re: 10 or 11 2014/11/05 07:35:54 (permalink)
    10' #7 is a staple steelhead rod. I do mostly fish my 11' #9 and 11' #7 these days though.. If you go with an 11' make it a switch style... Casting, mending and drift ability is definitely better with the extra foot and yes it helps keep the line off the water. Mine are deer creek series and they are great. I've even landed a lot of large sharks on my #7...
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    Re: 10 or 11 2014/11/05 08:30:09 (permalink)
    I agree with that. 8wt for shark season and 7wt for steel is exactly what I do also. Check out www.Alekasports.com . They have some nice rods at a reasonable prices.
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    Re: 10 or 11 2014/11/05 10:18:47 (permalink)
    Fat Nancy has the "Shufly" switch rod in stock in the 8# 11' that I use up there Clint,a good rod for the money.
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    Re: 10 or 11 2014/11/05 10:54:56 (permalink)
    Always take a look in the Pineville shop when comparing prices -seem to find some great deals in there. Great folks too.
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    Re: 10 or 11 2014/11/05 17:37:27 (permalink)
    I have two 9 foot eight weights. One is a bit faster action than the other so I use one for salmon and one for steel. I have 9 weight line on my reel now. The 10 footer is the one I am leaning towards.  Was planning on taking my reel up to see how it felt.

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    Re: 10 or 11 2014/11/05 18:40:05 (permalink)
    Clint, take a gander at the Sage 99 (9' 9") series rods.  I know they are pricey but the length may just be what you are looking for.  http://www.sierratradingpost.com/sage-99-series-fly-fishing-rod-4-piece-99-4-8wt~p~6449f/
     
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    Re: 10 or 11 2014/11/05 19:09:31 (permalink)
    I'm with Fichy, if you are planning on using it one handed most of the time, I would stick with 10' for the compromise between the added length and the added muscle stress.  11 would be nice, but I think it would end up being more of a spey casting tool.
     
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    Re: 10 or 11 2014/11/05 19:14:26 (permalink)
    Thanks guys I think your right the 10 sound good. Now to get some $$$$$$ together.

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    Re: 10 or 11 2014/11/05 20:09:22 (permalink)
    I concur with Fichy..
    An 11' is not necessary..My long rods sit idle..
    I have a 10'  sage 7#.. my fave steel fly but not salmon.. I thought about another pole like an 11' switch.. WHY ?
    At this point my rods work.. Most fly for me is in close be it indi or dead drift.. In spring when flows ar more the 8# ,
    9-6" works well for swing and serves salmon too for fall, question again for me is why do I need another.. They both work well..  

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    Re: 10 or 11 2014/11/05 20:23:06 (permalink)
    Why take the fun out of saying, "I have......"  He who dies with the most toys wins!  lol
    When my days are done my wife will be giving away my prized possessions and at that point it won't matter what I bought or paid.  Just enjoy the ride.
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    Re: 10 or 11 2014/11/05 20:41:06 (permalink)
    Hear that TB, I told the wife to burn my 20K plus cds, 100 hundreds of maxells ,8 tracks and whats left of albums with me .. That was 10 years ago.. Been trying to dump them all in the last 5 years in favor of Hard drives..
    Just de commissioned the old winblows xp for an up grade vista.. I'm already ready to dump this junk box..
    Bright note:
    Some super Fresh 1974-76 CSNY Never released tracks cut from the in prompt Human Highway Album hit my desk today.. Griz~ would approve... UGH..... 
    post edited by hot tuna - 2014/11/05 20:43:57

    "whats that smell like fish oh baby" .. J. Kaukonen
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    Re: 10 or 11 2014/11/05 20:44:12 (permalink)
    Rich, some guys have all the luck.  I depend on youtube to find my musical selection these days.
     
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    Re: 10 or 11 2014/11/05 21:13:20 (permalink)
    Its the old saying about when we die the wives sell all the gear for what we told them we paid for it. LOL
     
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    Re: 10 or 11 2014/11/06 06:10:17 (permalink)
    Clint, how soon are you looking to buy?
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    Re: 10 or 11 2014/11/06 17:39:22 (permalink)
    No time frame, just whenever I get the itch to do it. May wait and see what Santa brings me. I think I want a new reel too.

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    Re: 10 or 11 2014/11/06 19:57:19 (permalink)
    I've got an 11' in #7 and #9. Maybe we can hook up on the water one day and you can try one out. Been the least amount of outtings for me ever since I've been fishing the area.... But I definitely need to get a good steelhead fix soon!
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    Re: 10 or 11 2014/11/09 19:36:52 (permalink)
    For kings, I use an Orvis demo reel i bought with 3 spare spools for 75 bucks in '98. I've landed  kings, steel and stripers, blues, and  albies with it. Actual tonnage. Guaranteed more than one of your rigs will ever think of seeing. Probably everything you have put together. I own lots of great rods and reels, but thinking they're the only choice is foolish. They were my gift to myself (and some were really special gifts from Nancy) for paying off my mortgage early and making sure our daughter  left college debt free. Lots and lots of guys using Lamson Konics that you can get on sale for  way under 2 bills. Conical ramp drags withstand chrome runs with ease. I still have my first Pfleuger Sal-Trout 1598 that's now 47 years old. Still catches fish- I mowed a lawn for it.
    Your advice is best served up on the end of that probe 2b described.
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    Re: 10 or 11 2014/11/09 21:00:27 (permalink)
    Hey---Got a 30 year old Ugly Stick 10 wt  fly rod from my snagging days for sale-- its a very very valuable antique with a real history behind it= will sell for about $1500 bucks complete with photos of Kings with rip marks and a hand written certificate of authenticity. ( the reel is extra)
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    Re: 10 or 11 2014/11/09 21:31:26 (permalink)
    chartist1
      You're still likely to be at $1000 all in but you'll have a rig for a life time.




     
     
    Like the guy who has the $1200 set of irons and shoots 120..
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    Re: 10 or 11 2014/11/10 04:46:47 (permalink)
    My reel is a Cortland magnum.
    Got it in the early 90s when I was part time shop ratting and selling flies threw the shop.
    With the discount I think it cost 59 bucks.
    Still kickin 
    Ain't pretty and makes noises it didn't use to make but still my go to reel til it finally seizes up.
     
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    Re: 10 or 11 2014/11/10 05:32:21 (permalink)
    I saw Fat Nancy's has a end of the year clearance sale on white tuna rods you also get 100 pack of 1/0 books, 5 bags of assorted estaz, one of the women on waders 2015 calendars and last but not least a free haircut (will cost you 10.00 if they need to use a bowl though).All for the price of 49.99 unless your from Ohio then it's 999.99
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    Re: 10 or 11 2014/11/10 06:58:53 (permalink)
    AS the rod is what is used to cast, if the reel is more important, that is an outright admission that there is no casting or finesse, just chuck the weight and get that 1/0 estatz down there.  RG beat me to the ugly stick, but that has been the standard single hook snagger tool for ever on the LO tribs, 8-10 weight Ugly stick with a Martin 72 automatic, cut your line expense by just using 30 lb stren.  When they graduated to pro-lifter, the lifters all went with the Fin Nor multiplier, that gold color stood out from a long distance.
     
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    Re: 10 or 11 2014/11/15 21:18:28 (permalink)
    my redfly2, ebay teton tioga reel and rio line that i last used, but have sold, cost a whopping 225 or 275 bucks.  those steelhead didn't seem to know the difference.  but then again, i wasn't trying to look like a simms catalog model or trying to impress my neighbors in the water.  i just wanted to fish and enjoy the day.
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    Re: 10 or 11 2014/11/16 10:49:46 (permalink)
    Last year, a guy tried fishing the LFZ near the bridge with a fly outfit, except he didn't have a fly line attached.  It looked like 30lb stren...He got promptly chased out by the guys already in the spot and looking for any reason to make him go away.
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    Re: 10 or 11 2014/11/16 11:15:44 (permalink)
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    post edited by rap - 2014/11/17 21:22:05
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