spinner flies

 
 
Anyone ever use something like this.  Legal in the zones????

Did not tie them just saw a pic on another thread. Yea the Mr Twister ones would probably work on too. Will look up to AS to see if the have any there. Like you said can't hurt especially when nothing else is not working. My thought too on early and drops

Yep a no go, just checked the regs.     Outside the zones.................    Still may pick up a few to play with.

Charlie gave a good description on how flies are used and fished .

The regs I read did n't address the metal added to the fly but I really think that spinner is now making the fly a spinner and not a fly,why not run it by your DEC neighbor?
However the way I read the regs it is permissible to weight the fly and then add 1/8 ounce to your tippet if you wish.I believe a weighted fly is the lead wrapped onto hook,not hanging from it.

The regs didn't leave much grey area  on that one. The one thing that they did miss is the fact that with those light weight propellers that are designed to be used on flies, would make you  less likely to be snagging. Better you're out there with your Spey rod,  4 lb. tippet and a sz. 20 merrily searching the bottom.  Sometimes I use tungsten putty. It's expensive, but it weighs almost  half again of lead, and  can be rolled on in a tapered small pencil that is very snag resistant.  In high water it works very well- heavy , but no resistance. I gotta get some lead, too!  The last I had, HT gave me, and they ended up helping with some early season walleyes on the Hudson.
As we've all said before, Tin Sucks! 

My buddy swears by them.  Now I wouldn't say I swear by them, and to be honest I've only seen him hook and land one small salmon.  The wire that was used by his buddy who made them must have been a light gauge because the fish tore it up.  I know this is slightly off topic but I actually bought a couple of spinners from Finger lakes tackle co.  Now I've only used them a few times and truthfully didn't have much luck.  He's a good guy and for the lake guys it seems his main business is producing spoons for trolling, etc....

Your right Clint . There are really two definitions for using a spinner or propeller on a fly. The one I looked at adresses mostly the river system below the zone ( not added to the line ) which I don't really understand why if its outta the zones.
The one you posted is what my chitty memory recalled as to a definition of a fly ( in the zone ) . I know they adressed it when the bead craze hit. You are allowed to tie a bead into or onto the fly but not just slide it onto your leader/ tippet .
I tied a few flies that were very effective by threading a small size 8 mm bead onto some stout line like 20# , tie a knot on the end so it don't slip off then tie in the other end onto the hook shank before building the fly. It's kind of an articulating effect.
As to using lead- weight etc, I found very little need to use much weight at all and sometimes only a bead chain eyes for salmon. I like my flies big and swinging with larger profiles fished above or in straight line of sight of the salmon. Mostly I also like to fish for them in much different water ( sight fish is a more shallow broken water )
For steelhead , if the water temps are condusive to them then a swinging streamer through the heads or tails of pools has been effictive for me. Once the grasp of winter sets in it basically has become a dead drift , low, slow and deep method. That is where the skill of the angler being able to abide within the 1/8 oz rule plays a larger part over the chuck and duck method. Some days it's impossible to fish the same place you would at 335 when its 750. The only aproach then is to use an Indi , aka bobber and work the insides of those areas as opposed to a spin guy who ( below the zone ) would just add more weight and dredge deeper.
Lots of variables and learning how to read water come into play

I think the lynch pin, as with anything regarding enforcement, is the person you run into that particular day.  Interpretation and intent seem to go hand in hand.  A few years ago I had an encounter with a DEC officer above the Pineville ramp.  He called me to the bank after watching me fish a large streamer and insisted that it was not legal because it had too much weight.  I explained that the streamer had no added weight and that the materials (rabbit strips and sculpin wool along with eyes) used in its construction absorbed and held water giving it the appearance of weight.  I finally prevailed with my argument after nearly twenty minutes of conversation. 

   Jack, I could use 7's and bb's. Probably 3 small bags of each will last me a season or 2. You did that for me a couple of years ago and it was much appreciated. I'll get them when I see you on the river end of Sept.  Not only will I reimburse you, but I'll buy you dinner at the place of your choice.

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   Jack, I could use 7's and bb's. Probably 3 small bags of each will last me a season or 2. You did that for me a couple of years ago and it was much appreciated. I'll get them when I see you on the river end of Sept.  Not only will I reimburse you, but I'll buy you dinner at the place of your choice.

I believe those were the removable type,that's what I use,is that correct?

Many years back some Nova Scotia guys showed me their killer Atlantic rigs (illegal) while we fished together for a few years.
 They used a snelled hook with a night crawler hooked through the ring and at the top of the rig  about 6 inches from the crawler they used a gold spinner-I used a legal streamer, being a non native kinda figured I'd get slammed hard if caught with an improper rig.
-They caught all the fish.
   Tried it on the Sr a few years ago as it seemed legal here- NADA,

I've seen similar stuff caught in limbs along brookie streams. And the old small Colorado blade, red beads, and a two hook gang with a worm is common on the Tug hill, same principle but with a pork chop.
 
The late Leigh Condit,  and Tom McGill of Rochester, used to fish single hook in-lines in the Genesee with great success. Tom told me he quit Salmon fishing with them when the snaggers on the other side of the river figured out that they could wait for him to hook up, cast across his line, let the cricket slide to the fish, set hard, and get a fish, and a spinner, as he fished a lot lighter than 30#, and he hooked up a lot more than the snaggers on early kings.
 
The key with those spinners is an upstream cast, tighten just until the blade starts to work and then lead through the drift and swing as if you were drifting eggs. When the blade gets going quick, drop some tension or time to reel in.  Lose your concentration during the slow rotation part of the drift, kiss another lure goodbye.  The strikes in the winter from chrome will nearly take your arm off.  Same thing works with a hotshot and pencil lead, but the losses are even more painful. 
 
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