Heck I would love a compromise of fly-fishing only and C&R on all the minor tribs. This would increase repo on some god spawning ground. To include all the ones up north incluing north and south sc's, all the SR tribs of course , and do not forget the little salmon. They could leave Oswego, the S R and the Black alone.  Personally I would not mind the SR ones CLOSED PERIOD, BUT THAT is another story.

Love it

Well I found out today I am #176 on the list. I  put in 2 to 3 years ago. Don't think I will front that kind of coin, but it will give a good idea of how many leave when I get the call. They also said I am welcome to come any time I want for a "non fishing" comp pass.

Jim Rusher gave me his DSR pass a time or two- was real nice of him..

for sure take a walk or 2 down when the fish are really commin.. If you follow the trail (north bank going west,down stream) take a look at the flats.. It's mostly pocket water and one of my fav spots for salmon.. Of course you could stand on the hill above the Joss and watch the salmon /slayers swirl in the joss hole to get an idea of what goes on there too.
Another great venture is to go east(up river) towards the glide..
You will come to an impasse with a bench to sit and watch.. That is also good water to fish 

I still have the free pass Fred gave us when they closed early due to high winds, after we had already made the death march down to the meadow.  Now that it is worth some real coin, might have to put it out there on E-Bay.
 
A positive side to these lemons is that if they keep raising prices and lowering numbers, pretty soon a lot more fish are coming through unmolested.  Of course, then they hiot the rumba line at the Little Black!
 
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Clint, if I understand correctly, they have opened up 100 more season pass slots and they are sending 10 invites out at a time with a time limit... As time goes on they will keep moving down the line so ya never know... If people reject at a 40% or so rate ahead of you in line you may get the call. Let me know if you take the non fishing pass up and bring your nephew...

Maybe that appreciation includes wine and cheese served outta the big top / picnic table on south shore back side island above the spring hole ?? Just kiddin.
If I do however lose any spin docs on fish out there this weekend I hope your kind enough to return them. I plan on molesting a lot of fish . Lol

Honestly Clint , unless your nuts over the salmon I don't think it's gonna be a benefit for you. During salmon season i would spend a min 30 days down there so it was worth it having clients. Once November rolls in it gets very tough down there and you will find the steelhead fishing much better upstream . When I was a pass holder I did far more steelhead upstream .
Another consideration is there are many days when they might just not even allow anglers due to high water or slush.
It's a tough choice if you get the call and only yours to make .

'bout same for me. Too much for too little. Though the sharks are fun, more than a week would start being repetitive. I might  pay once, but after that stick to upriver.  I've caught a number of pure chrome fish in the UFZ, so I ain't worried about fresh steel.  Mid-river has plenty. For myself, the challenge of landing chromers is much harder than sharks and those are readily available in the free zones. 
  There's a fellow  that was looking for a spool for an older Orvis reel. I had one, so I sent him it for free, as I had no need for it. He was very grateful and offered  a day at the DSR  to give me some sort of pay back . I then saw a post where he mocked some old fellows spin fishing in a river close to me.  Of course, he , with his several grand in gear, caught more stocked fish than they. I happen to know the old fellows, who are VFW members  that  help with the stocking on this stretch of river , and have implored and petitioned the state to continue the stocking. Without them Mr. Fancy Gore-Tex Pants would have rose some chubs, maybe. Last he asked me about going to the DSR with him , I told him pizz off.  He's a  big advocate of rotating pools.
I'm a big fan of taking turns netting fish   with good people. Geez, Clint actually fell on slippery bowling balls trying to get a steel in the net for me.  I owe  netting you a good one this year, Clint. Dam right I'll try my best. 

Clint.... I've had years where I went just about every weekend from end of august til mid November with many long weekends (grade and highschool vacations and breaks when I was younger).Coupled with many winter trips..so I've always made the pass worth its while to me. Last year I probably had close to 15 days under my belt down there by September 7th or so.. By no means would I try to push anything on you. For steel... I've had my best steelhead days down there with the best ever being middle December on a beautiful day after a hard front came through...rj is correct in the weather getting tough down there but steelhead fishing can be great down there.

If you want to dabble with a daily pass I'll keep close touch with you and let you know when... And it may be way sooner than later at this point...

As for wealthy folks and snobbery, that's everywhere and I've known plenty of snobs who were fad from wealthy... Im far from wealthy and my blue collar is often brown from sweat and dirt:) but i love fishing down there.There are plenty of average joes that I've met through the years down there and many I see annually for years... It is what it is.

Hey--the Farm just downriver from DSR parking lot is selling bout 26 acres with 845 ft of river frontage-oooopps---uh ohhh
 Could be another Jailhouse coming- lol. ( by the way they looked like an empty jailhouse this weekend- crime must be down)
 

The first thing that came to my puny little brain was downriver access to DSR customers if this parcel goes to another entity. Since it looks ( making a straight line on a putor overview) like the low end of the Joss hole is around the line ( hope I got that  hole name right).. Might think any DSR lease is over  ( likely with a ownership change) because the for sale sign on the lot is clearly making the river footage a selling point.
The trail on  that side through the property is heavily used, as I recall.
 Also heard a rumor of about $750,000.Thats  lot for twenty something acres if it didn't include the fishing rights.
 IMHO it might seem that one is trying to make someone 'pony up' for the lot which would be a real game changer for many  DSR  customers.
Betcha ( Palinism) the sign is down pretty soon.

I had heard a rumor about a month ago that Douglaston bought that parcel from joss farm for a million... Then just recently I saw the for sale sign... Who knows what's going on???

Charlie, I never knew the law stated that. I always thought that it was just a farse and misinforming concept spawned from uninformed chatter... To my knowledge there is plenty of private ownership of o e side as long as property line ascends in to the river. Even Douglaston only owns one side from the tail of the black upstream on the south bank. To my knowledge it is private... How about salmon acres and surrounding parcels??? But heck, maybe I am misinformed :)

That law is in operation on all the trout streams in my area. It's been battled over in my area, too. As long as the land is owned or LEASED on both sides, the entire  river bottom is controlled.  Maybe in the case of the SR, separate and specific laws have been enacted. Certainly the 1997 appelate reversal was groundbreaking in destroying state's, and by extension, the public's  access rights on all rivers deemed navigable.  If you think I'm spawning uninformed chatter, and promoting a farce that's OK. However, it's my understanding of the overall law, which I learned from taking care of properties on the Battenkill. You're the local, do the research and find the right answer. I'm not that bright. But I'm not a dum-azz , either.
http://www.adirondack-park.net/issues/river.rights-salmon.html
If they don't have ownership of a stretch of river bank and bottom, I think they would have to allow fishing access via driftboat as a de facto result. The waterway is still considered navigable and by the law fought for by the Barclay family, is only to be used for that purpose. However; if the ownership of the river bottom is not in their control, they can't specifically prevent someone from anchoring there. It will be up to the new owners to decide the fate of that stretch.  If the Tailwater Lodge owned the North Bank, they could invoke the same law. Since they don't-they can't. I don't have a horse in this race, so what happens with the DSR is not worth me giving a dam about. I'd be worried if I were in your shoes, Andy, at least a little concerned.