Maybe they sense the desperation.  I'm going to check JV.
 
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Word at JV was hot action at the mouth, cleos, jigs or floated shoted sax.  Probly be up in the spots , Oh Tuesday, when we be south.
 
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Just got this response to my Email to the commish of DEC.
It came snail mail.
Not the usual shotgun answer by Email.
Commissioner Martens asked me rep;y to your correspondence regarding public fishing rights
(PFR)on the Salmon River in Altmar.the rumor that the PFR on the north bank is not finalized
and could thus be in jeopardy js not true. That particular agreement was finalized in 1993. the  
process by which the DEC obtains PFR agreements includes wording making those rights
permanent. 
 
Hopefully this will eliminate your concern about this matter. Good luck with your fishing.
 
 
                                                 Sincerely,
                                                 (hand written name)
                                                 Phil Hulbert
                                                 Chief, Bureau of Fisheries
 
 
Little ambiguity in this wording.
 

To answer your question as to why it was made into a big deal you can credit snagger aka Shane from Altmar Outfitters by his posting that the deal hadn't been finalized in 1993 and was still at issue in court.
 
That is why I contacted the Comm of DEC and asked that exact question of him.
As you see from the response I got (not mass Email gooblygook say nothing speak) the state claims he is wrong and did not equivocate about it in any way.
 
Seems on his thread he can make claims like that but not do a little extra work to get a direct answer from a ranking member of the state administration. 
 
Simple as that.

My feeling is that lotac was more like a carrier while shaner was patient zero.
Shame on lotac for not doing a little legwork before posting the rumor based on a credible person (Mulkey?)
and then he blew it up claiming he had knowledge that the pfr was not secured and still at issue in court.
Shame on then both.

hard to believe, some one over reacting and trying to stir up trouble on the salmon river.....

dimebrite2
I don't see why people made such a big deal over this...back when they first put the fence up I spoke with the fella who was putting up the fence that overhangs the river bed... he had mentioned something about the other side... I checked pfr maps (even though I already had in the past) and sure enough it was highlighted as pfr... what people should be looking in to is their true boundary marker on the south bank... on the county map it shows it to the bank only and not to the middle... this would allow fishing withing the river bed on the south bank which would allow drift boats to lark on that side...

And that my friend is the real question. Someone needs to see the survey map, or ask the DEC officer for the area, what his opinion is on ownership and make him seek out the survey map. No one wants to be accused of unlawful trespassing. 

       Some  computer info  showing local property lines are right  on for my place so I consider the ones ( like clint was putting up) are pretty accurate. One thing to remember though is that they are shown on a photo from further south than the actual river and what looks like it may be back a bit in the trees may actually be on/or close to the bank in many spots due to the angle. There is one area where it does seem to jump out into the river for a bit on all the maps I have seen.
 Put any Pulaski address  in the putor and then go to the block saying that address and 'public,  then go to the birds eye map and zoom in and out till you get to the distance with the property lines being shown-ya can scroll over to anyplace doing this so just run up the river to the jail.
 Their line does not seem to be right along the rivers edge but close, being in the water here and there -along the edge here and there  and in some places a bit back from the water. One spot is clearly out towards the middle for a short distance on all maps I have found.
Again - am aware that this program is spot on for my place and a few of my neighbors in the same general area so  kinda trust it as fairly  accurate.
Its the one I would carry while fishing and it may be a good idea for some to do just that when going over that way.

Take a look over on the other forum and see the Tailwater thread similar to ours,  fella posted the State map connection showing the PFR. Map #3 is the area of concern. He also posted his letter of response from the State- Good stuff.
 Hard to tell where the downstream Tailwater line is on the map provided but the PFR is clearly on both sides south of  there and on the North side all the way through.
 Some of you know the bends in the river as well as the off shoot little waters better and will  be more accurate than me in that area.
If I got it right Bear  might be happy.

 I been fishing the Salmon river since the early 70's. I'v put up with crowds of fishermen,I'v put up with snagging fish,changing regulations ,The DSR ,etc,etc. The only reason the Salmon River is the best steelhead and Salmon fishery in the east is because NEW YORK STATE tax dollars made it so!! Out of towners you are all welcome to fish here,just keep your dumb options to your self! And please pick up after your selves , if you bring it in with you then bring it back out!!

Change that - not sorry at all.