dimebrite2
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Re: Why would you need # 1/0 hooks
2014/01/07 22:35:57
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It absolutely poured Sunday night with near 50 degree temps... a lot of snow melted and water ran off. Snow has magically stayed above Pulaski and even Altmar/red field as clint stated. 81 is closed from mexico to Watertown. Don't see any point in the mexico through Pulaski closure as there's no snow there. Well, some, but nothing near road closure type snow.
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Re: Why would you need # 1/0 hooks
2014/01/08 06:36:32
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I think they close at Mexico so the riggers can try an alternate or turn around easily, and 104 is major road. If you close at Sandy Creek, or Pulaski, the ramps are convoluted and you have all that traffic tying up the hamlet, and if the Lake Effect band shifts south you are detouring people in the middle of the white out zone, and where would people go, just turn around and go back to Mexico. L13
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Re: Why would you need # 1/0 hooks
2014/01/08 07:07:51
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Then close it for riggers only... you're talking about close to 19 miles of road closed that is snowless. although the county line is getting its fair share, i believe its more hype than anything. Has 6 foot been measured yet??? I'd be surprised if it has been.
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Re: Why would you need # 1/0 hooks
2014/01/08 07:40:26
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When you wait until the last moment to enact an Emergency plan, you end up with Nawlins in Katrina. I was actually surprised to see all the schools here open today, but by PM it will be up into the teens. The Thruway was closed from Henrietta to the PA line, and we got no snow to speak of in Henrietta, but by the time you get to Leroy it is up and Batavia is all still closed , except the Thruway is now open. We could have gotten a lot worse off the Lakes but the water temperature must be finally dropping enough that the Lake Effect machine will slow down a little. L13
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Re: Why would you need # 1/0 hooks
2014/01/08 07:53:15
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Lucky13 When you wait until the last moment to enact an Emergency plan, you end up with Nawlins in Katrina. I was actually surprised to see all the schools here open today, but by PM it will be up into the teens. The Thruway was closed from Henrietta to the PA line, and we got no snow to speak of in Henrietta, but by the time you get to Leroy it is up and Batavia is all still closed , except the Thruway is now open. We could have gotten a lot worse off the Lakes but the water temperature must be finally dropping enough that the Lake Effect machine will slow down a little. L13
Finally a cogent explanation for the need for 2/0 hooks for salmon. Thank you!:)
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Re: Why would you need # 1/0 hooks
2014/01/08 09:59:17
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Lucky, you're spot on with lake temps... A- bay has been around freezing mark for quite some time...
Talked to a friend from sandy creek who said barely any snow... friend from boonville has a girlfriend in watertown... saw pics of 2-3 foot from Watertown... nothing in boonville.. I guess 2-3 foot is considered state of emergency now for a 100 mile radius around impacted area :)
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Re: Why would you need # 1/0 hooks
2014/01/09 07:20:48
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From what I heard yesterday PM, the lake band swung south and S Creek and P town picked up more than a dusting. Rates were reported to be as much as 3" per hour. This is the frustration of being in the prediction business, you are never correct. I've been scoping garage sales for a working crystal ball for nearly 30 years but can't find one anywhere. L13
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Re: Why would you need # 1/0 hooks
2014/01/09 07:38:10
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6" this morning on my side of p-town... sandy creek probably more
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Re: Why would you need # 1/0 hooks
2014/01/09 08:58:16
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The other night on one of the NBC news shows they had picture of the salmon river falls which I though were pretty cool I neever seen it with that much ice on it. apparently all the projection of snow brought them to town.
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Re: Why would you need # 1/0 hooks
2014/01/09 09:29:17
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uglyfish The other night on one of the NBC news shows they had picture of the salmon river falls which I though were pretty cool I neever seen it with that much ice on it. apparently all the projection of snow brought them to town.
Yup... no snow in our part of town though... well I should say not much... the snow band was even fairly north of the falls as well. I imagine there is quite a bit of snow there anyways though as it was a pounding snowy late fall...
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Re: Why would you need # 1/0 hooks
2014/01/09 14:28:14
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Well I guess it really was winter the last few days. Went out to get the recycle bins and garbage can in a tshirt and sweat shirt. While I was only out for a few minutes it felt comfortably warm. Near 50 Saturday so I may have to break out the board shorts.
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Re: Why would you need # 1/0 hooks
2014/01/09 17:10:53
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Since I see this has become the hijack and other tangents thread, you guys are killing me with all the warmy, warmy talk. Lake George just froze and with the weekend temps coming it might THAW !!! Bring winter back and keep your darn snow up there .. Lol
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Re: Why would you need # 1/0 hooks
2014/01/09 18:24:51
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If I had added ice to the title we wouldn't need any other threads. Be like having a conversation at at a cocktail party where everybody is talking over each other at the same time. Dam now I am craving a drink.
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Re: Why would you need # 1/0 hooks
2014/01/09 18:25:48
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So, any new news bout that guy who claims he shot bigfoot??? ( HIJACK COMPlETE)
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Re: Why would you need # 1/0 hooks
2014/01/09 18:43:06
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I heard some other guy hooked it on a black 2/0 estaz fly. Then shot it so he could take a hero picture. Just laid there when he released it. Then the bigfoot hunter came along and took it home.
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Re: Why would you need # 1/0 hooks
2014/01/09 19:42:41
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This thread may take the cake for the all time best...lol
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Re: Why would you need # 1/0 hooks
2014/01/09 21:50:47
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dimebrite2 This thread may take the cake for the all time best...lol
thanks 2 bob.. Ice is too nice to turn to chit...I will stay on topic.. 1/0 hooks are not in my possession so I have no clue to size reference near a quarter 5/0., now we are talking striper with live herring but again another in the ditch hijack as they are not legal on the Salmon River
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Re: Why would you need # 1/0 hooks
2014/01/10 02:54:17
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Speaking of ice. Take several cubes. Place them in a shaker cup. Add 6 jiggers of vodka. Whisper Benedetto Carpano (inventor of vermouth) Stir or shake. Strain. Drink. Repeat as needed. Yes ice is nice. PS if you have a couple 10/0 hooks around you could use them as ice hooks to handle block ice. PPS just before 3AM and sitting at 22 degrees. Might have to break out the tin foil reflector and sit out tanning today. PPPS bigfoot may be dead but still beware of the kracken.
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Re: Why would you need # 1/0 hooks
2014/01/10 07:24:58
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Just to be clear the change in title was a joke and an open invitation to turn this thread every which way but loose. Hoping this is gone by Monday. Anchor ice all thru the water leading to it. Waiting on delivery of 7x long hooks for tying the big stuff. Going to switch to the #6s for sunrises, coachmen and skunks. First time in a decade I might not have to tye enough flies for the next days fishing.
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Re: Why would you need # 1/0 hooks
2014/01/11 16:24:04
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OK- finally getting into Sr country-be far too long Likely Monday late for a day or two and a house check. High water- gotta do it - likely end up at Kiddie in a line- oh well- better than not fishing. How is the snow ??- is it gone with the weather up around Richland or will I have to get the plow guy to care for the pile along the front of the drive by the road ??? Am located near the Richand store up from Pineville bridge. Been reading reports about the big melt.
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Re: Why would you need # 1/0 hooks
2014/01/11 20:49:39
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Pineville is 2000+ now. N Sandy at Adams is ~2300, for a much smaller watershed. The map below says there is between 6 and 14 INCHES OF WATER on the ground on the Hill. ( Friday Map). You do the math! And if you go out there anyway, please wear a PFD! L13 The maps didn't last so I edited them out. Thank heavens it got cold an slowed the thaw!
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Re: Why would you need # 1/0 hooks
2014/01/11 20:52:19
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Re: Why would you need # 1/0 hooks
2014/01/12 12:10:16
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Well the local went up about 2 1/2 feet clarity went to around 4-6 inches but it appears it topped out this morning. Nothing but sparkly materials and a touch of arctic fox.
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Re: Why would you need # 1/0 hooks
2014/01/12 12:19:49
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I have a Temple Dog here, if I could just get her to hold still for a tail trim! L13
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Re: Why would you need # 1/0 hooks
2014/01/12 13:25:51
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Dye that pup flo orange and I'll hold it while you take the norelco to it. I'm looking at getting coon to replace the fox as a spun underbody to hold the ostrich out. Supposed to be stiffer keeping a wider profile when wet.
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Re: Why would you need # 1/0 hooks
2014/01/12 14:02:24
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Coon has less movement, but is denser with more tight underfur; at least the batches I've tied with. The fox I usually comb out a bit to get more movement and less clumping. I think the coon is the right thing for what you want. Good call. I love the fox as a collar, with a bunny tail and palmered for a body. I tie some 6-7" flies for pike and big largemouth like that, maybe I should gaudy the colors up a bit and swing them. Coyote tail is pretty cool, dyed, if you have access to any fur posts or varmint hunters. I'm getting some tube flies from a swap I did with friends on the west coast, that'll be my next try. They all seem to prefer Gami 4's. I figure a 1/0 trailed 2" behind a heavy brass tube and a tungsten cone should do the trick here...... Had to fight the wheel back towards the center line, the ditch in this thread is trashier than the trestle in Oct.
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Re: Why would you need # 1/0 hooks
2014/01/12 14:13:11
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I use the fox and stiff hackle now and it works fine for normal conditions but with very limited clarity I figure the bigger the profile the better and it should push more water for the lateral line sensor to cue in on.
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Re: Why would you need # 1/0 hooks
2014/01/12 16:10:24
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This is palmered coon with a collar of ostrich herl. I split the ostrich feather with a razor so the herl has a 1/16th backing strip that I peel off the feather shaft, then wrap it on like a 'bou feather. As you can see in the undewater pic, it collapses very little. This one is on a sz. 1 salmon hook, but would be better served if I had it on a tube or clipped hook with a trailer. I didn't know if it was OK to post fly pics, or not. If you want to keep it to your own, I'll delete the post. I was just trying to show I heartily agree with coon having profile and moving water. I'm not in the least worried about the larger hook, as this fly in particular is meant for bass, and if I used it for salmon or steel, it's obviously not the best snagging fly by any stretch of the imagination.
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Re: Why would you need # 1/0 hooks
2014/01/12 18:58:05
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Nice flies. Exactly what I'm talking. I am a cheap batsard so I take bunches of 3 or 4 individual herls and place them around the shank or put them in a loop and spin them. Please post away with pics as this is now the catch all thread since whatshisname won't post up a 2/0 black estaz next to a quarter. Really liking the cut shanks as it allows for a bigass fly but reduces the leverage that the long shank gives the fish.
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Re: Why would you need # 1/0 hooks
2014/01/12 19:47:35
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Every Which Way But Loose I usually stay and watch our Varsity High school basketball team after the nephews JV game. The varsity team is abysmally bad, losing by 20 plus points every game. A few games back 1/2 time score was 59 to 6, one field goal the entire first half plus 4 free throws. Why do I stay and watch, don't have a kid involved?????? Cheap Friday night entertainment to say the least. I have seen more dunks by opposing teams this season than in the past 5 years combined. Trev most of the snow has melted pretty good . Has it been plowed at all this winter???? Trick for your drive may be the bank not the drive (unless you are in the shade and do not get good melting) . If you are in a spot that usually gets higher banks you may not be able to bust through as that bank snow is dense and tough. I made it into a parking lot in Sacketts Harbor today that was never plowed. My lower drive to my back lot, no way.
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