May get to go Saturday for a while.  The Genny won't be good for some time now, maybe the other tribs will hold their water . Today would be perfect, except for the icy guides, but I can't swing it.
 
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Need a bunch of Mucilin to keep it afloat.

Seeing  Guide reports talking bout blue sacs on Steel-even now.
 Generally use Stones or small Estaz the few times I go in Winter buttt  love blue sacs earlier and in Spring- Hmmm perhaps next week
 Small Blue sacs on the 5 wt----????

The founder and only member of the South Lima Steelhead Society.

or... Just wrap a 1/0 in wonder bread..

Gotta match the hatch.
 
To give yourself a chance for creativity and not be bored.
 
My wheat head flies were tied on #6 Mustad 9672 hooks to match the length of the grain.
It really did make a difference. 
 
I'm still waiting for a reason a 1/0 is needed.

dimebrite2

hot tuna
or... Just wrap a 1/0 in wonder bread..

But what would the fly snobs of the world think of that???? Lol

Well truth be told I dont use a 1/0 , just some chitty tied fly..   Ain't no Orvis shop out behind my house so who cares ..lol
 
 

Two Bob I scent you a pic of my #2 and #4 Edward Seeley octopus hooks next to a #6 eagle claw razor sharp. Surprisingly the #6 is bigger in eagle claw. It would be interesting to see chartists 1/0 next to another hook as a comparison

Last summer I bought maybe 200 flies for the upcoming salmon season.  I wasn't sure what would work...This was only my third season of salmon fishing, so still learning.  I bought these 1/0 estaz eggs from a tier on ebay....They worked.  Most of the other salmon flies I bought are probably number 2 hooks.

I release all the salmon I catch.  I just enjoy the battle. 

That, its what everyone else was doing and I had to get my fly back are the 3 biggest cop outs used by snaggers.
Still not saying you are a snagger but the hole keeps getting deeper.
 
I don't have nearly as much time as I used to but if I were convinced you really wanted to FAIRLY fish for salmon I would tie a couple flies for you.
They work!
I go days sometimes without a bite but when I hook up I am sure it was a taker not a lined fish.
Its called fishing not catching.
 
 

That's a BS report, as the DSR reportedly  was on fire and the people I talked to from a local fly shop that went Fri. and Sat. morning got fish mid-river.  They had good days. One, just down river form your take-out.  You're guide isn't a flyfisherman, he's good with noodle rods and sacks. I imagine you didn't use them. Did you use lots of shot and stoneflies? You probably had the fish fouled and that's why they broke off.  It takes a lot more actual skill to find fish in the colder water, so instead of trolling for arguments, you might try to learn from some of the people here and put your arrogant attitude aside.  If you used that attitude on the guide you got exactly the trip you deserved. I highly expect that was the case. Guides expect people to follow instruction, take constructive criticism, and be open to new techniques. Had you asked polite questions and acted like a decent guy here, you might've done better fishing with one of us or got enough advice to go on your own. If you go in with "I expect lots of fish and I'll do it my way"  you'll get your way, but not the fish. The SR is a  different river in the winter. Drifting  a big hook through any old  water will be very unproductive.  By the way, lots of times 2 fish on is considered not that bad a day for this time of year. If you're swinging flies for the thrill of the take, it would be average. The SR in winter isn't for you, I expect. 

You advised people to fish upriver, that all the fish were there. That's not true as other reports indicate. It's misinformation.   You've had plenty of attitude in the past and  seem to not mind snagging techniques (the whole point of this thread) which you've now probably  learned another one- chuck and duck. Once again, not always snagging, but it works as such. My post is pointless in the fact you have your opinions and nothing said here will change that.  Outright snagging is frowned on here, which you seem to continue to practice. You're also right in the fact that you were also supposedly going to be ignored  and have continued to produce conversation. Mine is at an end. 

Hmmm, that's a complement, as  winter steelheaders gotta be a little off  I'm also going by the fact that I've fished with Shane on a Jan 2nd  and he only supplied c and d rigs, so I brought my own rod to fish. He told me he thought indicators were better used in the spring sight  fishing redds and in the fall when fish are aggresive. Maybe he's changed.  He had a client of mine that was a newbie  fish c and d while I mostly  waded and fished indicators.  It was my call.  I have nothing against him, but would not choose him for fly fishing only, again.  If you chose to fish the indicators, good for you. If he did, good for him.  Maybe I got down off a high horse to beat the crap out of a dead one, but you still haven't shown a pic with that hook in perspective. It could easily be a 6 or even smaller. You want to make me look like a fool, re-post that pic on a tape measure.  If you don't, it'll appear the other way around. To be honest, to me,  it really doesn't matter, as we'll never fish together and have no interaction of any meaning.

Wow, this one is getting hot and heavy...lol

Hey, I fished dsr yesterday and hooked one fish in 2.5 hours and lost it at my hands... probably covered 3/4 miles of water while hiking a total of 1.5 miles. I guess my report is BS too? Maybe its because I was dressed like a cave man in clown boots fishing a blind mans rig with a daiwa spin reel electrical taped to a 25 year old Cortland 5/6 weight fly rod??? Thank god I didn't where my red nose :)

BTW, there are way more fish in Altmar and I have no shame saying this as its already azzhole to elbow up there... thank God its getting frigid again to buffer the pressure down a bit... unfortunately it will only stir the cabin fever in this place!!! Lol