KPD-What happened to the fishing?

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2013/10/22 21:43:58 (permalink)

KPD-What happened to the fishing?

Phish, your assessment of the panfish and walleye situation seems to be right from my observations.  Now I'm intrigued.  I fish most often for smallmouth with 4 in. Power worms and 4 lb. test.(trying for a line class record).  The missing fish puzzle is new to me.  I haven't targeted much else but some walleye in spring(4 in. Pulse worms).  Maybe I can figure something out.  Crappie used to follow the baitfish to the top of the island at twilight.  Maybe it still happens. Perch moved shallow into the wood like clockwork the first week of Nov. for some reason.  I hope to find out. 
Ever tried Woodcock for slabs?  
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    Re: KPD-What happened to the fishing? 2013/10/23 08:52:58 (permalink)
    I posted the response from the regional biologist, allen woomer (see "feedback from keystone lake biologist" thread) who recognizes that the walleye and perch population are not healthy but thinks (based on 2008 shock data) that the crappie are ok.  based on my experience, I agree about the walleye/perch assessment but not the crappie one.  i'm not a biologist and also don't play one on TV but my personal views are:
    - the establishment of the big bass regulation in 1991 was the start of the panfish/walleye downfall.  as the number and size of bass got significantly larger, stocked walleye fry became mainly bass food.
    - the large level fluctuations - which sometimes (many times) expose weeds growing to 10ft, have exposed panfish to predators (mainly bass) and also has wiped out a spawn if the level change occurs during the spawning season.
    - in the last 15-20 years or so, the amish have discovered the lake and harvest all they can legally - essentially everyday - numerous boats.  I met an amish boat at the dock one day and they had a bucket of puny gills and crappie.  I asked what they do with them and they said they eat them.  I heard that they grind them into fish patties.
     
    put all these together and I think you get what you have today - a pretty good bass fishery but that's about it.  I suggested establishing a "panfish enhancement" status but allen woomer said that's not the answer.  maybe removing the big bass designation?  there's not much you can do about the level fluctuations as the power station controls that nor is there much you can do about over-harvesting. 
     
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    Re: KPD-What happened to the fishing? 2013/10/23 09:00:34 (permalink)
     
    Ever tried Wood**** for slabs?  



    amazing that this site is concerned about "cocck"  - I assume you mean woodcocck up north and no I've never been on the lake.  I have had some infrequent slab luck on shenango and loyalhanna but the unlimited horsepower there makes things tough - especially on weekends.  there are some no wake zones though.  seems to me that pymy is the best crappie spot in western PA but it ends up being 6-7 hour roundtrip drive for me - yuck.
     
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    Re: KPD-What happened to the fishing? 2013/10/25 13:01:40 (permalink)
    Whenever I fish woodcocck I fish the spillway. I usually do best on the blue gill with leeches/shiners. I still get the big ones on worms, but it seems the smaller ones don't like to bite the leeches/shiners.
     
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    Re: KPD-What happened to the fishing? 2014/02/27 11:02:02 (permalink)
    has anyone ice fished keystone? If so have you done any good? I have never ice fished but was interested in how the local lakes around me do when frozen.
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    Jeff

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