Not surprised.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3M3umMkup4Q
 
Not surprised this happened.
 
Edit:  The video has been taken down from youtube.  It contained cell phone video footage of Dawn confronting a fisherman on the side opposite her shop on the Town Pool.  Dawn then turns her attention to a woman, apparently the girlfriend of the fisherman, striking the first blow.  The woman retaliates and proceeds to open a can of whoop****on Dawn.  Dawn apparently had her young daughter with her during the altercation.

Saw that earlier,   she really does need to sell the place and get the heck out of ton

full on circus

"This video is private" does anyone have a link that works?

You tube pulled the video due to violence.   There are a few people that have it ion facebook.   I knew I should of downloaded it

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r2g2Someday 'something' will happen at one of those places that ends up in a Court and the decisions on right and wrong will be mandated. 

It already HAS- 3 times to the highest level, supreme court.. We can thank Doug Barclay  for setting the record straight

It was actually the group of drift boat guides that insisted on anchoring. They were the ones that drove it to the supreme court

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r2g2Someday 'something' will happen at one of those places that ends up in a Court and the decisions on right and wrong will be mandated. 

It already HAS- 3 times to the highest level, supreme court.. We can thank Doug Barclay  for setting the record straight

It was actually the group of drift boat guides that insisted on anchoring. They were the ones that drove it to the supreme court

Db, if short term memory serves.. The guides anchored and were charged for trespass by Sir Barclay..
Guides filed for court and WON.. Guides =1
Sir Barclay was not happy and appealed and Won
Guides=1
Sir Barclay=1
Now guides not happy with ruling and took it to supreme court and LOST..
Guides=1
Sir Barclay =2
No more courts to appeal as case closed and set..
 
So yes I thank Sir Barclay for screwing the fishermen of New York State for what has been the forever understanding of landowners and fishermen that as long as you stay in the water you were not trespassing.. Now every (well most) landowner want's to profit from their "exclusive" land under the water fishing right..

Exactly tuna, the guides took it to supreme court as I said. If there's anyone to blame its the state for not securing pfr for the whole river.
Too late now though... any bank along the river without pf will unfortunately be lost at one point or another as folks get old and sell or get tired of the circus raining on their parade...
One would hope that any major parcels would be negotiated before intent of sale with Dec to purchase the pfr...the problem is that the offers they give to folks without easement in their deed are peanuts ...sad but true... the reality is this: why would someone accept a bowl of soup for prime river frontage???

Rt, the both sides of the river thing is a complete misunderstanding. It all comes down to pfr and easements that are either in your deed or not in your deed. One can own one side and to the middle of river but have pfr or easement in their deed in which anglers can walk and fish the bank. Anyone who is privatizing their bank has every god given right to do so just as any land owner would privatize their land as they have the right to... bottom line... as much as it sucks it is what it is. I feel as if its too late to fight. The more retaliation there is, the more ammo is given for landowners to fight back. For a while now I pick and choose my fishing time wisely... its not worth a battle to catch fish.

that is the saddest truth of all tuna

Tuna, it is the sad truth and its been a trickle down since the beginning of time...although I'm not an old fart yet, my grasshopper butt has knocked on doors for permission and just like yourself and most others that post here, most of us are respectable beings for our environment...but where does the line get drawn??? I guess that's why there is complete gridlock in Washington right now??? Too many people with disimilar interests. Definitely agree to disagree, but I'd say humankind is more to blame than any one individual. Slobs of the world who think they have the right to do as they please and have no regard for any other or the environment and quality of it... that is what has ruined most things in the world and will continue to do the same until our eyes see black. If garbage and riff raff continue down the path it is now... I wouldn't be surprised if I see the day the Dec closes the doors to any access as it could become more of a burden than anything else one day.

Although I'm not a true local here, I have held stakes in the region for ten years now coupled with 24 years of fishing it...and I must say that I dislike the crowds and disrespect that gets thrown around from road rage to litter to sheer rudeness and everything else that comes along with it. All big factors that lead to people posting their land... and the most unfortunate part about it all is that its a small percentage that ends up ruining it for all

RESPECT- if it was commonplace there would be few negative issues.
Living in a State where deer hunting is based upon written permission of the landowner door knocking is the norm. I have seen first hand what the impact of slobs can create. 
 The unfortunate reality is that  the attitude and actions of our fellow fishermen ( like the term or not)  creates the bulk of our  issues. That combined with a growing realization of using the river for personal profit is  creating the winds of change.

Really , How well do they enforce the tube and canoe hatch on the Bkill ? Just a question.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsF1yVz2vxk&feature=youtu.be
 
Here is another link watch it before it get's gone. 

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Really , How well do they enforce the tube and canoe hatch on the Bkill ? Just a question.

They've started making some arrests from people drinking on the river and trespassing, other than that they don't. State Police have started putting up DWI roadblocks on the main road along the river. They manage the Battenkill as a put and take fishery  and recreation river. It's not managed as the world class fishery it once was. The  small stretch of C and R  fishes better May, June, Sept, Oct. so it's not as conflicted, anyway . My point wasn't about use, but about  property law.  The B'kill; has degraded as a fishery, thanks to bank erosion . Rather than making the gargantuan effort of correcting it, the DEC has let the water sports have their playland.  I fish the hatches until Memorial Day and then let it slide.
The one investor that bought and leased lots of land and built the Battenkill Lodge, has basically lost his shirt on the deal, and it provides an ego boost and tax write-off, but little else. Not in Barclay's league apparently, but neither is the Battenkill  the fishery the  Salmon River is.  Tubes and canoes don't anchor, they merrily  hoop and holler through his property unmolested by law. 

As to the "You are OK as long as you are in the water" I started fishing >50 years ago on Oatka Creek, and Spring Creek, and the Garbutt Club has had large chunks of both locked up for longer than that.  Try the "I'm wading" line on the Beaverkill above Roscoe, and see how far that gets you with the JP, and those clubs have been there for a longer time than I;ve been around.  Even Fran Betters had parts of the Ausable that had been "de facto" public for years posted up last time I went up there.
 
As to closing the hatcheries, that is not going to happen, the trib fishery is just an afterthought to DEC, the main emphasis is on the Lake.  If the contaminant levels keep coming down maybe they'll make it no trib fishing and go back to building a catfood factory.  Pulaski would probably smell better in September and October. 
 
I still have not seen the vid, but if the Senator and trapper and Driftwood can do it, I'm with Dawn, too. Stay out of her 150 feet, you've got 12 whole miles, and Morgan Lyle says that's enough for everybody!
 
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