Oh sure, lets have a wet start to archery season. Mite have to fish now instead.
 
BH

Lost 2 bucks, 35 or 40 years ago, bowshot because of a rainstorm. Left both overnight and got heavy rains by morning. Found both a week of so later. Shot from overhead ,and no pass threw, it dont leave much blood sign sometimes. Both hit hard. 1 was under a blowdown and 1 was in a sorgum field...WF

Headed up this weekend, and I'm sure it will be worth it, although I always live by the mantra "a bad day of fishing is better than a good day at the office (and plus, my next 3 weekends are booked with plans already). I'm perfectly content with catching a few steelhead in a day up there, but I know there are those grumpy locals who will sit and whine how much better the runs were 30 years ago when they could catch them every other cast, and blame everybody else for keeping too many hens and littering, rather than rising to the challenge of improving their fishing skills. If I don't have luck in the creeks, I'll fish the lake mouths, take a bass rod with a spoon with me, although I had a blast with my fly rod and a streamer last year at the mouth of 20, watching fresh chrome take off with my fly and head for Canada.
 
And if the fishing sucks, I will still be happy to get away for a few days, been putting in long hours at my new job, so even just sitting in our hotel room watching some college football after a day of fishing will be nice.

fishingood
...but I know there are those grumpy locals who will sit and whine how much better the runs were 30 years ago when they could catch them every other cast, and blame everybody else for keeping too many hens and littering, rather than rising to the challenge of improving their fishing skills.

Glad you have done well and enjoy it. Just remember that after walking these streams for over 30 years we have seen good years and bad, we recognize that it is a put and take fishery, and we are the ones who have to deal with closed access all year because of littering done by people who may spend just a few days here. And after doing this for 30 years I find that we are always learning. Now, if you will excuse me I have to go buy some big bright orange KO wobblers to catch some coho out of the Manchester hole.  (Which was actually posted during the salmon runs because of littering).
 

You forgot about the muperes that come out of the woodwork in late September to get info and stream reports and places to fish, because they don't want to drive 2+ hours if it's not "worth it".

fishingood
Headed up this weekend, and I'm sure it will be worth it, although I always live by the mantra "a bad day of fishing is better than a good day at the office (and plus, my next 3 weekends are booked with plans already). I'm perfectly content with catching a few steelhead in a day up there, but I know there are those grumpy locals who will sit and whine how much better the runs were 30 years ago when they could catch them every other cast, and blame everybody else for keeping too many hens and littering, rather than rising to the challenge of improving their fishing skills. If I don't have luck in the creeks, I'll fish the lake mouths, take a bass rod with a spoon with me, although I had a blast with my fly rod and a streamer last year at the mouth of 20, watching fresh chrome take off with my fly and head for Canada.
 
And if the fishing sucks, I will still be happy to get away for a few days, been putting in long hours at my new job, so even just sitting in our hotel room watching some college football after a day of fishing will be nice.

Pretty much mirrors my feelings on Erie. I've only been fishing the creeks,(cricks, cracks, streams, waterways, etc, ect.) for 7 years now so I'm still learning. I remember my 1st year up there, I was fishing on the Elk next to Uncle Johns between the wall and the bridge and I was getting skunked. Literally could not catch a thing. I was using huge egg sacks and 8 pound mono(no leader) in gin clear water. I was advised(hahaha) by the shop at the top of the hill that egg sacks were the ticket. After 4 hours in the snow, one of the local guys felt bad for me I think and came over to check out my rig. Basically told me to throw away everything I had, drive down to Poor Richards, pick up 4 pound Seagur, smaller hooks, blackbird floats, emerald shiners and come back. When i got back to the Elk, he showed me how to rig the line, showed me where to cast, angle of the rod, how to keep line out of the water, etc. I caught more fish than I could count that day. I was 100% hooked on steelhead from that day on and have been making 2 trips a year since then. It's a 7 hour ride for me, so when I go, I normally call Dottie at poor richards to get a honest report.
 
Its the locals that made my first trip to Erie awesome. No matter where I staying in Erie, I ONLY go to poor richards. It has nothing to do with prices or location, hell they are normally completely out of my way,but the fact that they showed me the in's and out's and are honest, I keep coming back. 

Cold
You forgot about the muperes that come out of the woodwork in late September to get info and stream reports and places to fish, because they don't want to drive 2+ hours if it's not "worth it".

 
Not to mention those muperes who ask for advice, get it, go three times, don't land a steelbow then post about how hard it is & that they might quit trying.
 

It was totally "worth" it to me today. Took the hour trip up today and broke one off and landed about a 17". Streams are obviously extremely low and clear with no rain in a week now. Found one hole with a couple in it and after annoying them for almost 2hours they finally either got PO'ed enough or felt sorry for me. I didn't really care if I caught anything though, I had chores to do at home and really didn't want to do them hahaha... Had to do a lot of walking to find those fish, actually to even find water that could hold fish.

fishingood
Yea I apologize, my remark about locals was meant to be much more tongue in cheek and joking than I made it seem, that was just an example I recall. Truth is, most of the locals I meet up there are very friendly and willing to teach a thing or two to others. Heck, last year I met a very nice older guy who showed me the steelhead streamer he was cleaning up with, and gave me one to try out, and take home to replicate myself.
 
My remark was more aimed at the fact that there are a lot of pet peeves one could have up in Erie (littering, numbers of fish down some years, snaggers, crowds, the idiot who yelled at me last year because I kept one steelhead in 6 trips up, and told me that "people like me were the reason numbers were way down"). But it's a classic case of benefits outweighing costs and drawbacks, Erie is still a world-class fishery, and I'm willing to deal with the drawbacks to fish there.
 

No harm no foul. Hope you do well.

Yup Iem a local mup her' no bige'
We all share the same waters gotta get along now.
Went out yesterday some fish around but wind blowing mup' stream was stronger than the current and only hooked 1.
If you got the itch come on up  but keep those back up plans in mind.
It was worth it for me yesterday to fish but if I had to drive hours and pay for lodging I'd been bummed.
 

World Famous
Lost 2 bucks, 35 or 40 years ago, bowshot because of a rainstorm. Left both overnight and got heavy rains by morning. Found both a week of so later. Shot from overhead ,and no pass threw, it dont leave much blood sign sometimes. Both hit hard. 1 was under a blowdown and 1 was in a sorgum field...WF

Yep, that would be pretty bad. I lost one a few years back and never did find it. Leaves an awful feeling. Agreed, rain is not the best.

Good job on the gill blasting of that brown trout.  Impressive.

Loomis
Gladiator killed Commudus with a stabbed lung....Gill em all and let em ride, just helping with natural selection it will live if it wants to.  If not, they stock more in Febbawarry.  

One of my favorite movies. Commudus killed Gladiator with a stabbed lung, but Gladiator still won.
Favorite quote:

freshwaterdrumR
 
 
Maybe some dudes only get the chance to go once or twice a season and want to make sure they pick a day whenever they can catch the most steelhead. I don't think asking locals on a fishing forum about conditions is unreasonable.

 
 
 




 
not being a smartazz, i promise,  but  seriously, you need to learn  to read/interpret the flow gauges and weather radar .
..L.T.A.