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2013/09/10 09:02:08 (permalink)

September fishing

I don't usually have time to fish in September, due to the federal fiscal year end.  The purse strings are pretty tight this year, so I am not in the office on weekends like I normally would be.  My fishing season usually takes a break between mid August and October.  Usually focussing on deeper water main lake structure in August, and moving to the shallow water structure and weedlines come October.  Any suggestions for September fishing?  I primarily fish Arthur, but it has been living up to it's reputation for me on my last few trips.
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    rippinlip
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    Re: September fishing 2013/09/10 10:46:24 (permalink)
    10 or 12 foot of water ahs been the magic number for me.

    You should have been here yesterday.............. Streams are made for the wise man to contemplate and fools to pass by [Sir Izaak Walton]
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    Re: September fishing 2013/09/10 23:45:46 (permalink)
      Pork,
     
     They are still a little deeper right now 8'++++ but lots ov nice Bass in the shallow cabbage.
     With the cooler weather on the way it won't be long.
     
     Buddie just dumped over 4# Fatheads in the outdoor bait tank on Fri. now need to load up on some Shiners in the next week or 2.
     
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    post edited by crappiefisher - 2013/09/10 23:55:12
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    Re: September fishing 2013/09/11 08:44:06 (permalink)
    Thanks duuds.  Sounds a bit early to hit most of the shoreline structure that I fish (3'-6').  I have a few humps and stuff marked that I'll give a shot.  Any thoughts of what this drastic drop in temps will do?  I know in the Spring, when the water is heating up, a drop like this crushes everything for a few days.  Does it seem to do the same when the water is cooling, or does it actually help?
     
    I know a good place to trap some minnows... 
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    Re: September fishing 2013/09/12 08:36:22 (permalink)
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    Re: September fishing 2013/09/13 11:53:32 (permalink)
     Rich,
     
    Thrill night wade weed edges & pockets.
     
     Tim,
     
    The shiners don't go into the cage traps so need to net 'em.  Prob. gonna put 'em in the smaller tank for easier gathering. The chubs/suckers & minnows aren't trap shy.
     
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    Re: September fishing 2013/09/13 17:34:10 (permalink)
    http://www.in-fisherman.com/2011/09/21/the-night-sight-bite-for-crappies/
     
    Coldfront's question a few days ago sent me to Google because I'm pretty clueless about crappies on big water.  Not sure how much of it applies to Arthur, or other local lakes, but found this article absolutely fascinating. 
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    Re: September fishing 2013/09/14 18:37:19 (permalink)
    Attachments are not available: Download requirements not met The fall bite is on !!!

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    Re: September fishing 2013/09/14 22:55:17 (permalink)
    It won't be long until Arthur starts to roll over, probably another week or two.  When she's turning, you're better off staying at home and working around the house for a good solid week.  But once it's done turning........ oh yeah!

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    Re: September fishing 2013/09/15 06:13:03 (permalink)
    Cutter, what do you mean by Lake Arthur "rolling over"?
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    Re: September fishing 2013/09/15 20:30:55 (permalink)
    Sujie:  When the days get cooler and shorter, the water at the surface cools and becomes denser.  It then begins to sink through the thermocline and displaces the less dense and poorly oxygenated water from the bottom. That poorly oxygenated water begins to rise to the surface and erases the thermocline, ending the lake's stratification. That is called "rolling over" or "fall turnover". 

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    Re: September fishing 2013/09/15 21:56:55 (permalink)
    I hate to be "that guy" but I don't think true turnover occurs in Arthur. I can't imagine a significant part of that lake being deep enough to cause oxygen deprivation. I could be wrong, but it would be surprising.

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    Re: September fishing 2013/09/15 22:07:09 (permalink)
    Every lake kinda does it's own version of a turnover.  Maybe not involving oxygen deprivation and such but I think in some way every lake turns...  Anyways not to trail from subject about September fishing but it's been abysmal this year for me and my gf.  We went to Erie from 6-9 and managed 60 perch on the perch boat on 9/7 (Girlfriend got sick) later that day we went out to the piers and it was slow but Sunday (9/8) was awful windy and 3-5 waves in the lake we struggled on the piers and we went to the bay and caught nothing also.  Monday we left and stopped at Pymie and fished the outflow and managed a nice 18" channel cat, a 16" small-mouth and a pile of small walleye, gills and 1 small crappie.  Was out this weekend 9/13-14 and managed 9 fish between myself and a buddy 7 drum, 1 perch and 1 blue gill...  To me this has to be the worst September I can remember...  Hopefully fall trout and the fall rains bring good walleye off the river before it gets too cold...
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    Re: September fishing 2013/09/15 22:13:37 (permalink)
    Yours has been better than mine. I haven't been out since early July.
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    Re: September fishing 2013/09/15 22:45:50 (permalink)
    Another unproductive trip to the Dead Sea for me. The past 2 months has lived up to the name. I haven't been able to figure out any sort of pattern from mid Summer to early Fall, besides small stuff and occasional large mouth, but not what I am looking for. Bait fish everywhere the last hour or so of light, but that was about it. A few schools of alewives skimming, but would break up a few seconds after spotting them. Nothing ambushing them. Tried hitting some timber and weed lines, which saved a skinning, but not much more than that.
    post edited by Porktown - 2013/09/15 22:46:52
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    Re: September fishing 2013/09/15 22:50:13 (permalink)
    Arthur has a roll of its own.  The water below the thermocline naturally holds less oxygen like in other lakes and we rarely mark fish below it.  But after it rolls, you can find fish stacked up from 10' below the surface all the way down to 25+ until it stratifies again.  If you tune your sonar to do it, you can even detect the thermocline and note its disappearance after the lake turns. Lake Arthur doesn't get the kind of smell that some lakes do when they turn, but if you catch it right, you will notice evidence of plant life and debris from the bottom through the water column.  The lake will then clear a bit and get that grey ("wintery") color.  But then again, if you're out there when you notice the debris in the water, you're wasting your time being out there at all.  Years ago, Babe Winkleman came to Arthur to film a show and caught the lake during the turn.  He left disgusted saying that even he caught absolutely nothing.  Arthur definitely rolls and will be within the next couple of weeks.  But back to subject: three of us put the beat down on Arthur this past Monday boating a total of 18 wipers ranging from about 15 inches to 26 inches.  We only bothered to measure the good ones.  We caught 5 "Bearded Wipers" but we consider cats junkfish so they really don't count.  Point is: the fishing has been decent but will soon die out during the rollover.  After that, it'll get even better. Here's a pic of one of the best.

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    Re: September fishing 2013/09/16 05:29:27 (permalink)
    Thanks for the info.
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    Re: September fishing 2013/09/26 10:04:38 (permalink)
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    Arthur has a roll of its own.  The water below the thermocline naturally holds less oxygen like in other lakes and we rarely mark fish below it.  But after it rolls, you can find fish stacked up from 10' below the surface all the way down to 25+ until it stratifies again.  If you tune your sonar to do it, you can even detect the thermocline and note its disappearance after the lake turns. Lake Arthur doesn't get the kind of smell that some lakes do when they turn, but if you catch it right, you will notice evidence of plant life and debris from the bottom through the water column.  The lake will then clear a bit and get that grey ("wintery") color.  But then again, if you're out there when you notice the debris in the water, you're wasting your time being out there at all.  Years ago, Babe Winkleman came to Arthur to film a show and caught the lake during the turn.  He left disgusted saying that even he caught absolutely nothing.  Arthur definitely rolls and will be within the next couple of weeks.  But back to subject: three of us put the beat down on Arthur this past Monday boating a total of 18 wipers ranging from about 15 inches to 26 inches.  We only bothered to measure the good ones.  We caught 5 "Bearded Wipers" but we consider cats junkfish so they really don't count.  Point is: the fishing has been decent but will soon die out during the rollover.  After that, it'll get even better. Here's a pic of one of the best.


    Nice to see the Pontiff had time to get away from the Vatican...
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    Re: September fishing 2013/09/26 16:15:51 (permalink)
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    It won't be long until Arthur starts to roll over, probably another week or two.  When she's turning, you're better off staying at home and working around the house for a good solid week.  But once it's done turning........ oh yeah!


    No way Duud. There's nuttin to catch after that.. Put the boat away and get dem bows and tree stands out fellas, jus sayin'......
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    Re: September fishing 2013/09/26 16:31:33 (permalink)
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    I don't usually have time to fish in September, due to the federal fiscal year end.  The purse strings are pretty tight this year, so I am not in the office on weekends like I normally would be.  My fishing season usually takes a break between mid August and October.  Usually focussing on deeper water main lake structure in August, and moving to the shallow water structure and weedlines come October.  Any suggestions for September fishing?  I primarily fish Arthur, but it has been living up to it's reputation for me on my last few trips.




    Either way, you can't catch 'em from the couch!
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    Re: September fishing 2013/09/26 17:13:46 (permalink)
    Not "spoonfeeding" ****fan1. Nobody reads these boards that much anyway.  Besides, the draggers will all be up in trees. Just sayin'.  You know I love ya.

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    Re: September fishing 2013/09/27 07:16:24 (permalink)
    D-nymph
    Either way, you can't catch 'em from the couch!

    I can catch a buzz, the game, movies, the rare good tv show, and get some booty on the couch. Fishing is great and all, but my couch kicks just about any fishing holes butt. Not even sure why I fish.
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    Re: September fishing 2013/09/30 10:32:26 (permalink)
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    Either way, you can't catch 'em from the couch!

    I can catch a buzz, the game, movies, the rare good tv show, and get some booty on the couch. Fishing is great and all, but my couch kicks just about any fishing holes butt. Not even sure why I fish.


    HAHA!!!
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    Re: September fishing 2013/09/30 13:52:02 (permalink)
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    post edited by TheBlueLagoon - 2013/09/30 14:00:47

    Got Walleye???
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    Re: September fishing 2013/10/03 11:21:29 (permalink)
    as far as the fall smallmouth bite, is there an ideal water temperature when they start/stop hitting?
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    Re: September fishing 2013/10/08 09:09:55 (permalink)
    Accountant
    as far as the fall smallmouth bite, is there an ideal water temperature when they start/stop hitting?


    Accountant, I know fall feeding is on right now, Water temps in 65-70* range are prime, the bite will be around for a good while. Even when the water temps dip lower, bass can be had, just slow your presentation down by using soft plastics, jigs ect. instead of cranks or spinners.

    Got Walleye???
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