The 2013 Salmon Season

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Re:The 2013 Salmon Season 2013/08/23 08:08:14 (permalink)
I have seen guys shore wading in parts of the estuary . There is a fishing platform right next to the rt -3 bridge. Regs state no trebles and same river regs apply all the way to the first bouy at the mouth ( lighthouse ) on SR .
You can cast / use any type of general tackle beyond that and any pier such as L13 stated out into the lake.
I have watched plenty salmon jumping in the lake around the Selkirk Shores State Park pier . You can even night fish there as well. Try glow spoons ;)
We may just do that in the time I'm there over the next 5 days.

Good luck.

Ps. Agree with ya db.. My point was just when the salmon are running it don't matter much as long as you are fishing what I call good ( broken) water

"whats that smell like fish oh baby" .. J. Kaukonen
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Re:The 2013 Salmon Season 2013/08/23 08:28:22 (permalink)
Gotcha tuna ;)

Hey speaking of moving fish are you bringing your river cleats this weekend just in case
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Re:The 2013 Salmon Season 2013/08/23 08:42:08 (permalink)
I been tossing on weather to bring fly rod or not. Seeing I'm just a passenger along for the ride , I really have no say on where they fish. Bro -in-law & his ole lady aren't really river fishers so I highly doubt they will venture in the water.
However , I will pack a fly swatter and cleats just incase .


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Re:The 2013 Salmon Season 2013/08/23 09:03:45 (permalink)
Tuna be on the look out for the witness protection agency... a rumor has been leaked of a possible kidnapper stalking Selkirk shores and surrounding areas
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Re:The 2013 Salmon Season 2013/08/23 11:44:40 (permalink)
Andy's Taxi Service.  Has a ring to it. 
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Re:The 2013 Salmon Season 2013/08/23 12:55:02 (permalink)
  When I first started fishing the Sr back in or around 1980 there was often talk of the runs of yesteryear starting in August with decent pushes being commonplace.
  Many believed  since  fish were stripped at the hatchery later in the season  that this produced genetics  narrowing runs to a shorter time frame in later Sept /oct activity being the main push.
 Seems to me that recent activity -in particular with the 'wild fishes'-that August is and will likely continue as the 'new' beginning of the annual migration.
  Read a report that most of whats showing now  has' the fin' and this is similar to last year as well.  Could it be that 'wild' fish do in fact run earlier ?? Could it be that its because they may hatch earlier??
 Phood for thought--
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Re:The 2013 Salmon Season 2013/08/23 13:28:54 (permalink)
Here is some too. With the very good rainfall and mostly cooler(early) temps this summer, there has been no mention of skams or atlantics .. Humm ? Maybe all those wild salmon might need to be put in a better perspective . Maybe the creel limit for salmon may need to increase to 5 ?

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Re:The 2013 Salmon Season 2013/08/23 14:02:07 (permalink)
God forbid but can you imagine the increase in ambulance calls for those who crap out trying to drag five salmon instead of three.  As for increasing the limits, leave it as is.  I don't think the present limits stop those inclined to take more to begin with but that's a forum for another time.
 
I have always believed that the natural spawned fish return earlier than the hatchery spawned brethren.
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Re:The 2013 Salmon Season 2013/08/23 14:34:26 (permalink)
There might be something to the "wild" fish running early but I do remember some early runs way back.
However,since it looks like this is going to be a early run I am now really getting the itch,maybe the week after Labor Day hhhmmmmmmmm
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Re:The 2013 Salmon Season 2013/08/23 15:38:19 (permalink)
Yes jack, august runs are nothing new. Some years better than others. The pressure has definitely increased. I do believe it will never get out of hand though as you can see many people did make trips up in the past three weeks to get skunked... most don't come back in august again after that. Its a crap shoot for sure... some years I'd get one...some none...some years some... one year over 30 in two days. The most amount of fish ive ever seen move in one day was in august believe it or not.My family members and I have always believed that early fish were natural spawners... they definitely do seem more abundant in the past five years.
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Re:The 2013 Salmon Season 2013/08/23 15:47:27 (permalink)
hot tuna

Here is some too. With the very good rainfall and mostly cooler(early) temps this summer, there has been no mention of skams or atlantics .. Humm ? Maybe all those wild salmon might need to be put in a better perspective . Maybe the creel limit for salmon may need to increase to 5 ?


Sorry for double post...just saw this one. Tuna that has been a big head scratcher. Although in early June there were quite a few fish in the hatchery and then they disappeared... also saw countless large boils while small mouthing this past summer. was thinking possibly with such high levels of water and cooler temps the summer runs were not forced in to their normal summer lies as there was no need??? Just a thought. About three weeks ago they took the first spawning Atlantic from the hatchery. I haven't seen any yet but I have heard of quite a few trout caught recently.

All aside, I imagine a five creel limit would not hurt the kings one bit. They are drinking strong in numbers to say the least
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Re:The 2013 Salmon Season 2013/08/23 16:31:49 (permalink)
As I posted in another thread,  one of the biologists on the AS program said there were good numbers in the UFZ, a couple of weeks ago, with Skams mixed in.  As to the kings, maybe nature is selecting for the earlier run because the redds get used over and over, and the early eggs maybe get buried better and so survive better.  But I think this year it is those 40's in early August at night, combined with the colder water coming off the hill. We're not hearing of anything except stagers off the Genesee, but the water temp in the river is up at 75, what Bill Abraham always referred to as the Thermal barrier, and the reason why we don't usually see a salmon run in the Gennie until Mid to Late September even though there will be fish around the mouth by Labor Day (and they are there at night now.)   I remember seeing the most rooster tail action in the SR one year when I had Labor Day off and took the drive and paid the $10 to go to Douglaston (which also says it was a LONG time ago.)
 
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Re:The 2013 Salmon Season 2013/08/23 17:21:57 (permalink)
sorry guys, I was bored to exhaustion today, maybe it was excitement..
Anyway, Thanks for all the food..
Might be a change for chance.. Those in the know are keeping queit  on the webs, kinda like brookies :) 
The earlies ? Db and RG called it.. Good Job and thanks for sharing your adventures. 3 man Too !!!! ,
Clint your slackin.. LMAO & 2B that was a tad weak..lol..
 
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I'm ready and hope to share mine as well..
If the Taxi service is running then who knows where the adventure may lead.. Swatter packed;)
Everyone is welcome at our site for a little after dark phishin stories as well.. I do plan on pier chuckin too..
 
Peace & Tuna out ...
 

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Re:The 2013 Salmon Season 2013/08/23 17:27:35 (permalink)
Hit em hard Tuna, hope you have a great trip!
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Re:The 2013 Salmon Season 2013/08/23 17:42:08 (permalink)
Go getum Bud- and then come back for more --
 - Agree that the limit on Kings would make no difference- heck, they die anyhoo.
 Perhaps a 5 fish limit up top after they have a chance to 'pass it on'.
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Re:The 2013 Salmon Season 2013/08/23 17:53:49 (permalink)
I can't deny mine was a weak attempt at best.
Went to look at water I never got to see and no takes to boot.
 
3 SALMON TIL 9/15 NO LIMIT AFTER THAT TILL THEY'RE GONE?
Gives everybody a chance at some moderately fresh salmon everywhere in the river and then haul all the carcasses you want outta state thank you very much!
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Re:The 2013 Salmon Season 2013/08/23 17:56:02 (permalink)
I know the bosnians and Russians I see up there would love the five fish limit, how there gonna get 125lbs of salmon back to the car is another question. Never forget the guy I floated by mid December or later with3 half dead hoes on a stringer, you would have thought he just hit the lottery. Eat them up boys, Ill squirt some ketchup on my work boots and eat them first
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Re:The 2013 Salmon Season 2013/08/23 20:16:26 (permalink)
I have n't killed any fish up there in years,too much hassle and they are  called "mud sharks" for good reason.I'm not even crazy for them out of the lake,no comparison to the Salmon from the salt.
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Re:The 2013 Salmon Season 2013/08/23 22:41:20 (permalink)
Lucky, what an interesting concept. Early spawners having higher success rate due to burrying of early eggs in the most common redds... kinda makes sense. More food for thought: chinooks are mostly summer runs out on the wild west coast....
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Re:The 2013 Salmon Season 2013/09/08 13:44:56 (permalink)
Hey guys, I might be up next weekend, 9/14. Think it will be worth my time, or a wasted trip?
 

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Re:The 2013 Salmon Season 2013/09/08 13:53:33 (permalink)
River is good all the way, buddy of mine fished ballpark on Friday and did really well, then fished my favorite spot up top yesterday and again saw steady action. You will do well.
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Re:The 2013 Salmon Season 2013/09/08 14:31:00 (permalink)
John, what spot would that be??? ;)

Slab, the river is on fukking fire right now. I'm not gonna lie since its in to September now. I took a good friend from Syracuse this morning whos new to it and we slammed em... they weren't dime bright fish , they were nickel silver. It was not pods of 100+ moving at time but good pods of 5's to 20's based on our hookup rate. Just got. back from the port and it is alive down there... fish everywhere... like 3fan said the entire river is consistent with fish at this point. It is game on.

The best thing about this morning was very little pressure on the lower end for the first few hours. I think most guys were chasing the "monster run" that came in Thursday... we may be looking at a repeat of last year except even better because of the water levels.

Winds is all o er the place today.

All fish encountered are still wild strain and unfortunately I didn't see any of the cohoes I saw hitting water in the port last night. God blessed anyone who is up during the week this week... fish on!!!

Tuna: based on friends and family wanting to fish, our seasons may coincide ;)
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Re:The 2013 Salmon Season 2013/09/08 16:24:38 (permalink)
Heading up tomorrow with the other veteran fish slammer, my wife. Had a good friend spend the weekend there and he said its been non stop on kings, he had a small batch of coho this morning blast by.
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Re: The 2013 Salmon Season 2013/09/08 16:29:56 (permalink)
Hook, enjoy brother... it is quite enjoyable and still early enough for low crowds during the week despite my river burning post...lol
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Re: The 2013 Salmon Season 2013/09/09 06:21:36 (permalink)
Well looks like I'm out for another week.
Freaking 90 degrees.
It won't affect the fishing tomorrow morning but I would melt, get tired, fish halfassed and leave a sweaty mess by 10 A M.
Not going to drive for more time than I'm likely to actually fish.
 
Good luck to anyone getting after them.
post edited by twobob - 2013/09/09 07:42:08
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Re: The 2013 Salmon Season 2013/09/09 06:30:59 (permalink)
to Bob besides the weather I think you're making a poor choice 38 this morning Wind was all over the place yesterday southeast wind today port was loaded going to be sick man
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Re: The 2013 Salmon Season 2013/09/09 06:36:19 (permalink)
was suppose to hit the lake today but didn't happen, headed up to my secret location with the fly swatter to beach some mudsharks. Took the day off and not even thinking of going there, oh well look out sharks!
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Re: The 2013 Salmon Season 2013/09/09 06:55:38 (permalink)
 I know what you're saying dimedeux but those kind of temps just wear me down in a hurry at this point in life.
A partner to trade energy with is one thing  but a solo go is tough on the perfect day now.
Maybe I will suprise myself.
I never really know what I'm going to end up doing.
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Re: The 2013 Salmon Season 2013/09/09 08:33:41 (permalink)
3fan have at em buddy. If I hadn't played hooky on house work this weekend I'd meet ya back there but no can do... have a blast.

2B, I hear ya. I'm pretty shocked at the forecast myself. Luckily the buildings I'm working in are nice and cooled down so it shouldn't be too bad for me as I hate doing anything in the heat. May have to move to Alaska by the time I'm your age...lol

Keep your eye on the forecast through tonight... it could change hopefully
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Re: The 2013 Salmon Season 2013/09/09 10:33:09 (permalink)
THanks guys. I hope I get a chance to come up this weekend. It will be either salmon or Erie walleye in Oh.

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