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Re:Tiger Trout? 2013/05/08 17:47:12 (permalink)
They're just dumfezh.

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Re:Tiger Trout? 2013/05/08 18:02:23 (permalink)
I was wrong...I think its a snakehead...WF
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Re:Tiger Trout? 2013/05/08 20:42:28 (permalink)
I'm not saying that I put thousands of them in, but there were plenty of them. We stocked mostly brooks and rainbows, but there was at least one in darn near every bucket. We even stocked a big breeder. It was about 17" and about 9 inches from dorsal to belly. Fat thing. I don't know if they were intentionally bred or what the deal was. All I know is that I saw plenty of them go into the water this year. I wouldn't mind catching one. They are really pretty.

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Re:Tiger Trout? 2013/05/08 21:52:43 (permalink)
fishink

I didn't realize you could now do DNA testing of photographs through computer screens. And to an absolute certainty no less! I'll have to download that program.

Biologists should probably get a copy too, since it can be difficult for them to properly ID tigers at times, even with DNA.

Cool, bro.  It's still just a dumb hatchery raised chubby brown trout that is poorly colored.  There are many Tiger Trout pictures in this thread, but the original fish in question is not one.
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Re:Tiger Trout? 2013/05/08 22:11:46 (permalink)
The way I see it. If he believes it's a Tiger, and believing such is important to him or brings some measure of joy to his life.
 
Then it's a Tiger.

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Re:Tiger Trout? 2013/05/08 22:16:34 (permalink)
What fishrmn said.
 
The way I see it. If he believes it's a Tiger, and believing such is important to him or brings some measure of joy to his life. 
  
Then it's a Tiger.

 
All except for two things:
 
1) The OP just posted the picture then asked.  I think he's okay with either/or, as he hasn't posted since.
 
2) It's the armchair experts asserting that, even though it's clearly not one, that it is.  And all the wishing in the world doesn't make it so.  By that rationale, I say it's a tuna.  I want to believe! 
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Re:Tiger Trout? 2013/05/08 22:18:33 (permalink)
fishink

I didn't realize you could now do DNA testing of photographs through computer screens. And to an absolute certainty no less! I'll have to download that program.

Biologists should probably get a copy too, since it can be difficult for them to properly ID tigers at times, even with DNA.

you should stick with the google images searches.
 
this is also a stocked brown trout




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Re:Tiger Trout? 2013/05/08 22:20:41 (permalink)
If you want to believe it's Tuna, that's fine with me. You'll be happy, and it won't affect my life or cause me a minute's loss of sleep.

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Re:Tiger Trout? 2013/05/09 03:31:32 (permalink) ☄ Helpful
It's the armchair experts asserting that, even though it's clearly not one, that it is.  And all the wishing in the world doesn't make it so.  By that rationale, I say it's a tuna.  I want to believe!

 
With proper reading comprehension you would notice that I said it "looks like" a tiger. The definitive statement came from you, the (bona fide?) expert who ruled it out completely.
 
All anyone can really do is make an educated guess.
 
The main identifying mark of tiger trout is the vermiculated pattern, in a greater or lesser degree, which is typically a characteristic of brook trout as any ID guide will tell you. The presence of tiger trout in PA and the broad range of color variance that they can exhibit is what I based my guess on. I could of course be wrong.
 
There is polymorphism in brown trout leading to different patterns and such. Plus plenty of species (or not, the verdict is still out in some cases) that look quite similar.
 
The confusion over trout in the Balkans shows once again that correct identification purely by eyeball when it comes to hybrids and morphs can be next to impossible.
 

 
"The Balkan Peninsula is home to the most diverse collection of salmonids in the world. Nevertheless, many taxonomic uncertainties remain unresolved despite over a century of studies." - http://balkantrout.blogsp...other-myth-busted.html
 
"Adding to the confusion of salmonid taxonomy, there are other trout with marble pattern beside Salmo marmoratus. One is trout from the river Otra, Norway. A certain percentage of brown trout (Salmo trutta) from that river has marble pattern. In all other aspects, these trout are identical to the non-marble brown trout from the same river. This is an example of intrapopulational polymorphism." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marble_trout
 
(Those Otra River browns look a lot like tigers, causing some to call them "the strangest brown trout.")
 
These are the kinds of places the browns in PA trace their roots to, since Europe is the species's home range.
 
Things get even more complicated when you involve breeding programs with fish and eggs from different sources, the shipment and stocking of fish, introducing species, a lack of studies, etc.
 
Anyway, that's about all the conjuncture I have time for.
 
Here's a picture of a big tiger from the Loyalhanna DHALO section that I found (thanks Google Image Search!) to part on. Enjoy!
 

 
 
 
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Re:Tiger Trout? 2013/05/09 08:24:55 (permalink)
With proper reading comprehension you would notice that I said it "looks like" a tiger. The definitive statement came from you, the (bona fide?) expert who ruled it out completely.

 
dUUd wtf are you talking about?  
 
All anyone can really do is make an educated guess.

 
And some can't even do that.
 
I said that to me, it clearly wasn't a tiger, and posted a few examples of brown trout with these markings that you claim are the telltale sign of a tiger trout.  That's it.  Clearly, you're not going to let common sense get in the way of a good story, so why bother getting upset?
 
Lots of nonsense about random european fish and a googled up 40 year old picture of yet another tiger trout

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Re:Tiger Trout? 2013/05/09 08:27:44 (permalink)
Always one, brother....WF
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Re:Tiger Trout? 2013/05/09 15:14:04 (permalink)
this was quite entertaining
 
cold, you are quick witted duud, i hope we never get into an debate on here, you will make me to be a full on idiot
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Re:Tiger Trout? 2013/05/09 17:00:57 (permalink)
Docto,

F off.
 
Kthxbye.
 
PS. Tippe, when are we gonna chase wild brookies? 
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Re:Tiger Trout? 2013/05/09 18:49:54 (permalink)
Obama replaced the tigers with browns so they can take our guns, snuff n smut. Better buy some tin foil before the super secret democrat drones find us lmfao

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