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I will break my silence only to say this : I "fish" and will continue to do so.. and post this :
"whats that smell like fish oh baby" .. J. Kaukonen
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Spot on Tuna- IMHO -doin it right is a reward in and of itself. Cant change the world- tried that for most of my life and its still messed up -lol.
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twobob
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To me its just like the gun law issue the way it stand The criminal will do what he wants anyways. If it wasn't against the law I could rip every fish and there would be no reason for snaggers to come near me. But the law says I can't. Why must honest law abiding fishermen be saddled with these laws.
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As to the town drying up and blowing away if more enforcement happed. That same arguement happened when outlawing snagging was debated. The Mickey Ds had a sign supporting snagging in the window. I never went in because of that. Mickey is still there. Might he have made more money with snagging? It is a possibility but no way of knowing. I do go in now (I believe there was an ownership change) and spend money that they would never have gotten before. I know many people that would never fish trhere because of snagging but do now. Pretty much all the businesses are still open except Tony's. Fat Nancy's has expanded dramaticly. Malinda took the old Smokehouse and is thriving. While they might whine the shops that cater to real fishermen will survive nicely if not reap higher profits. Those that depend to criminals won't.
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Good point two biz... honestly, even if the fishing industry took a dump i think village of pulaski would be fine. Its a pretty self sufficient town in many ways...
Heard something last night that a bunch of the guide and lodge owners are getting together to sue Brookefield power due to the flood last week.... claiming they lost thousands of dollars... don't know if it's entirely true but it sounds like a load of crap to me. I do think Brookefield dropped the ball on that flood, but come on now; lawsuits over it... for loss of business???give me a freaking break.
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i would guess very few pulaski residents are totally dependant on the fishing revenue...and if they are, if it went away they and the town would still be there and getting by....i think those like me should support the town and local shops when we can, but don't expect anything other than good service, good products and decent people....and that is what i find.....so, i enjoy my time up there, and take it as it is :) and once in a while i get to meet and fish with some really great folks
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Wouldn't they have to sue God? It is not like Brookfield did anything other than try to "best guess" the rate and timing of runoff, and as WB pointed out, they may have hurt themselves by trying to placate these same hand biters by not letting more go earlier. If I drive to Albany to fish for Stripers, and the temperature drops and the fish shut downa nd sty 80 miles downriver, can I sue DEC and the National Weather Service. Some esquire is going to line his pockets on this one with the plaintiff's dollars, and the defedant will pass the costs on to the consumers. L13
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Bear, All the Pulaski residents I know who are not involved in the fishery for monetary gain wish it would just go away. That even includes a couple who fish! L13
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Even if they had the res under control before it happened they still wouldve atleast run 3500 or more as there was just a ton of water that came in one shot. It still wouldve been a blow out weekend and as most know that happens in the spring pretty regularly. Took a look at the river a little before dark last night.... no one in sight... man did that look nice for a change.
Btw, tuna good to hear from ya bud
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I know lucky, thats why i try to be the best neighbor i can, and always try to me of minimal impact when i fish....i am thankful for the fun and recreation i get from the fishery
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Gennuine bear... it would be nice if most thought and acted like yourself. Hey, i saw a guy last night with a shirt that said "shut up and fish" and a raven floats hat. Was that your friend?
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lol, doubt it my buddy shut up and fish would be wearing a "hammer" muskie lures shirt
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Agree on the whole flood issue - Nature has the upper hand. Hear complaints about Res too low and then Res too high. Fact is- would bet the folks running the dams have more knowledge and experience than all the second guessers will ever compile. It is after all how they make their living. Am just glad they have established MINIMUM flows as opposed to the occasional blowout. Love the suing God point- lol
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dime, you wouldn't know me on the river, unless you know me i go there to fish, and thats what i do, i don't wear all the advertizing and play with the expensive toys.....i fish....i observe....and i fish
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HT nicely said. DB I heard the same thing L13 Your right, last year we were bit(hing and moaning that they let out too much all spring and ruined it for the summer. THAT SAID IF someone would have taken a ride up to the tug they would have known how much snow was up there to run off, just like last year they would have known how little there was to run off. My dad worked for Nimo for close to 40 years and in the spring they would drive up a few times a week during spring and run off season and take snow sample and ground samples to see water content. Some of the old timers could tell just by taking a shovel or 2 full of dirt or snow up. That , to my knowledge is not happening now. Pencil pushers hours away are making the decisions without even coming up to look.
The gods do not deduct from man's allotted span the hours spent in fishing. ~Babylonian Proverb
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I'm sure that is the case Clint. Brookfield is at least two buyers away from nimo. Just like the big box stores in Indiana stocking salt rods but no crappy poles as management gets further removed from the locality so does the up to date local knowledge. The mantra of big corps is cut costs make money. A long way from being sueable. Since ya can't control nature and nobody is giving away crystal balls there is no negligence. Just business as usual in New Americorp.
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Great observation on the 'box stores' with their unusual display of all the wrong things- There was a series of posts here some time ago about just that. Always think it kinda sad watching some of the popular 'outdoor tv' when the boxes are sponsoring the show and saying how they 'have all your needs' - then ya go there and search and search for basics the dont have. Many clerks are right outa Urbania and have never placed a foot off of pavement- when ya ask a question they just give that thousand yard stare-lol. In time they get promoted and turn into the people who buy that carp - more lol.
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Yep, just try to find a Mooselick Wobbler or a Lake Clear in a big box! Or a fly rod Hula Popper! L13
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