bcain
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Keeping Trout
I almost always release trout that I catch. I only keep fish that are gut hooked or ones that I think will die. I hav never kept any though and ate them. My question is. Will fish keep all day on a stringer? What I mean is doe they have to be gutted right away or can you fish all day and just keep them on a stringer? Sorry if it seems like a dumb question but, I have very little experience keeping fish. I have always just released them. I know someone here told me to keep them as cut bait but, I wouldn't mind keeping a few to eat as long as they are ones that won't make it.
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Re:Keeping Trout
2013/04/14 02:08:32
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When I used to keep them I left them on the stringer then foze them and made crab cakes with them, they were definitely still good
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Re:Keeping Trout
2013/04/14 04:56:32
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When I want to keep fish and stay out most of the day, I throw a bag of ice in my cooler and keep it in the car. When I catch something I want to keep, I try my best to put it on ice as quick as possible. Doesn't get any fresher than this.
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Re:Keeping Trout
2013/04/14 11:06:53
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Do you gut them before putting them in a cooler?
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Re:Keeping Trout
2013/04/14 12:38:57
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Gill'um, gut'um and ice'um. Gives you optimum results. If you drag them around all day, they die and soak in the water you may as well use them for coon or pussum bait/or fertilizer. Just my nickles worth!
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Re:Keeping Trout
2013/04/14 13:47:06
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☄ Helpfulby Fish5000 2014/04/08 21:55:21
What Wally said^^^ Also......scrape the bloodline off their spine after you gut them. Basically if you get all the blood out they don't taste as gamey or fishy.
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bcain
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Re:Keeping Trout
2013/04/14 16:51:30
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I think if I keep them, I'll just use them as cut bait for cats. I have eaten trout before and it isn't my favorite fish. Walleye is probably the best freshwater fish that I have ever eaten. I never keep fish that I know will live. All six that I caught yesterday were lip hooked and I kept them in the water while unhooking them. They swam away fast. I just hate to see something go to waste. My brother caught one yesterday that was gut hooked. We brought it home but after toting it all day without gutting it or putting it on ice, I didn't want to eat it. Thanks for the tips. Next time I'll be sure to take a cooler with ice.
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Re:Keeping Trout
2013/04/14 18:12:11
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Also be sure to dispose of the guts properly as it illegal to throw them in the water after cleaning them. sam
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Re:Keeping Trout
2013/04/14 19:11:15
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mr.crappie Also be sure to dispose of the guts properly as it illegal to throw them in the water after cleaning them. sam What he said, don't be that guy, saw several people do that yesterday
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Re:Keeping Trout
2013/04/14 19:28:31
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☄ Helpfulby Fish5000 2014/04/08 21:55:52
Wally and Rippin' said it all. Do that and trout isn't bad. The best way to cook them is with some seasonings and butter, wrapped in tinfoil, and cooked on the grill or in the coals of a campfire.
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Re:Keeping Trout
2013/04/14 20:10:31
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I saw the unlawful actions of disposing the guts streamside also yesterday. Don't get some people, especially if they know it's illegal. I always get disgusted by the guys dragging around their dead, pale, almost moldy fish all day. They seem like they've been out of the water longer than in the water. And I get a kick out of the people who just put their fish in a plastic bag lol. Eww.
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Re:Keeping Trout
2013/04/14 23:02:16
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Well like I said. The only one we brought home is one that was so gut hooked that it was pretty much gonna die right there. He reached over to help his daughter and didn't see it take the bait. I hate to waste something but after toting it around all day, I didn't want to eat it. Never had much experience keeping fish. I am definitely gonna take a cooler next time. What is the best way to dispose of the guts if you are gonna gut them while out fishing?
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Re:Keeping Trout
2013/04/16 11:25:48
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I usually cut the gills and let the blood drain and clean them at home
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Re:Keeping Trout
2013/04/17 00:24:55
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Depending on the water and ambient temperatures, they'll keep for quite a while on a stringer or in a fish bag. If you plan on keeping them, the very best thing to do is to dispatch and then clean them as soon as you catch them then put them on ice. But that's not always possible or legal. Here's a video showing one of the best methods of cleaning them. In places like the White River in Arkansas where guides have to clean dozens of fish per day, this is how they do it. For fish of average size, it doesn't get much better or faster.
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Re:Keeping Trout
2013/04/18 22:00:11
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you should be able to gut fish streamside aslong you throw guts out in water,they sink,feed bottom critters,that new law is a crock of dodo! i would not want to eat fish that had guts in them for more than a hour,what a waste of fish that will proulby get tossed in garbage.
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Re:Keeping Trout
2013/04/18 22:47:36
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I couldn't see what throwing the guts in the water would hurt. You use cut bait for catfish. Just a stupid rule that I will follow since I don't need any trouble from the law.
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Re:Keeping Trout
2013/04/19 03:02:58
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The main arguments against throwing entrails into the water are that it can cause abnormal levels of bacteria as the innards decompose and that (especially during opening weekend when there are hundreds of thousands of people fishing) it is generally unsightly and will lead to things like odors, attract rodents and flies, etc. I don't see how taking them home and dropping them in a plastic bag to take up space in a landfill or be burned is any better, but I don't make the rules. Agencies differ on this. In Idaho, Fish and Game says you show throw them into the deepest water available. Probably the best bet when it's illegal to leave them in the water is to throw them on a compost pile or bury them. They're great fertilizer for a garden if you have one.
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Re:Keeping Trout
2014/04/06 02:37:25
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Ok guys. Sorry to start up my own old post but, what is the best way to dispatch fish along the shore. I don't want to go doing something to devastate some little kid. I want to cleanest most humane way.
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Re:Keeping Trout
2014/04/06 06:16:47
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bcain I couldn't see what throwing the guts in the water would hurt. You use cut bait for catfish. Just a stupid rule that I will follow since I don't need any trouble from the law.
B If your using the trout for bait don't clean or bleed out get them on ice freeze them whole in bag of water ( or vac pak ) thaw and use works just fine.
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Re:Keeping Trout
2014/04/06 07:56:05
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If I'm keeping them to eat I'll do 1 of 3 things. 1 just leave them on the stringer(easiest way when the water/air are still cool). 2 cut through the gills with a sharp knife and let them bleed out in the water on the stringer for a couple minutes before throwing them on ice(probably the best way, but most gorey) 3 just throw em on ice whole when you catch them.
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Re:Keeping Trout
2014/04/06 12:34:14
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Trout are mushy for cut Cat bait. Better made into a batter like dough for bait. Catfish make better Cat bait that stays on the hook. crappy
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Re:Keeping Trout
2014/04/07 18:42:48
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i have always thought it was stupid that you couldn't gut the fish and throw the innards into the water. Something is gonna eat at least some of that. And I doubt that some fish guts and poop are gonna taint the water compared to everything else that gets into the water.
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Re:Keeping Trout
2014/04/07 20:41:23
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Most important thing I always tell people who ask about keeping fish is this: if you're planning on eating the thing, treat it like something you're going to eat. For fish, that means a fast, humane kill (cut or tear out one or both gills, then put it back in the water, and it'll bleed out in moments). After that, it's food. You should keep it as cold as possible, preferably by putting it on ice immediately (which is easy if you're camped out in one spot, but more difficult if you're roaming). If you're miles from the cooler, after doing the gills, put it on a stringer or in a mesh bag, and keep it in cold, clean flowing water, still trying to minimize the time between catch and cooler. As far as the gutting on the water issue, I'm glad they don't permit it, honestly. I know that as a kid, that would have creeped me right out to see people hacking into live fish all around me on opening day, not to mention that based on the trash the opening day crowds leave behind, the lake shores would probably look like a scene from Braveheart. These days, I still don't particularly *like* to see it (it's better for you and the fish to cut the gill), but really opening day is for the kids. For my part, I haven't kept a trout outside of Erie county in over a decade, but if I decided to keep one, if I was out in a remote area with noone around, I'd probably just gut it and be done with it...or if there were people around, maybe toss the guts in a plastic bag.
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Re:Keeping Trout
2014/04/07 20:57:19
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If you're going to keep trout you better have ice on hand, trout will die pretty quickly on a stringer. I often see people with trout on their stringer that have been dead so long they turn almost totally white, you think that fish is gonna taste fresh?
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Re:Keeping Trout
2014/04/08 02:15:36
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Cold, that's what I'm talking about. I know a lot of guys say the best way is to gut them then put them on ice stream side but I don't want to go freaking out some little kid. I don't want to keep a lot but I have actually had fish that were lip hooked act like they were gonna die after releasing them. I don't know if it is because maybe they were caught and not handled correctly before I caught them. I have only had that happen on opening day. I hate to just throw them back knowing they will die anyway. Just trying to find the most humane way without freaking out the women and kids. Invicta, I know what you mean. You will see fish that turn white. Doesn't look real appetizing.
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Re:Keeping Trout
2014/04/08 08:13:19
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Invicta If you're going to keep trout you better have ice on hand, trout will die pretty quickly on a stringer. I often see people with trout on their stringer that have been dead so long they turn almost totally white, you think that fish is gonna taste fresh?
This isn't really the most accurate thought process. You don't want to keep them alive as long as possible, and in fact, that will make them taste considerably worse than a quick kill because the stressed fish will build up lactic acid in its muscle tissues. Also, the discoloration, even for pelletheads, isn't indicative of declining quality. If you slit a fish's gills it'll lose color almost right before your eyes, at the very least within 3-5 minutes. This isn't really a sign the fish is going to taste bad (though roping a pellethead that's only been in the stream a few days might be a sign that the fish is going to taste bad, but that's another discussion).
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Re:Keeping Trout
2014/04/08 08:20:17
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I know a lot of guys say the best way is to gut them then put them on ice stream side but I don't want to go freaking out some little kid. I don't want to keep a lot but I have actually had fish that were lip hooked act like they were gonna die after releasing them. I don't know if it is because maybe they were caught and not handled correctly before I caught them. I have only had that happen on opening day. I hate to just throw them back knowing they will die anyway. Those fish fresh out of the hactchery, still adjusting to life in a real stream and being bombarded, and repeatedly caught by a bunch of people are always pretty goofy. Understandably, I guess, all things considered. If we went out opening morning and there was some big rough gang of thugs that grabbed us and repeatedly held us underwater at random times all morning, I guess we'd be pretty goofy too. I don't like releasing a fish that doesn't swim off healthy under its own power either, but if there's a day I'll release a 'marginal' fish, opening morning is the day. Bums me out, but I usually don't even carry any means by which to keep fish. If you're stationary, though, I'd say your best bet is to have a cooler of ice just for fish, and if you're going to keep one, once you bring it to hand and you have it in close, just hook a finger up into a gill and yank it out in the water as part of the "unhooking" process...easy to keep it out of sight of squeamish kids. Hold it in the water a minute to bleed out, and then put it on ice immediately after, guts in. Finish cleaning them once you get home.
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Re:Keeping Trout
2014/04/08 09:30:46
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As the dad of 2 boys - ages 4 and 10 - I feel pretty confident in assuring you that you're not gonna freak out many kids gutting a trout in front of them. In fact quite the opposite.
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Re:Keeping Trout
2014/04/08 10:02:07
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Cold This isn't really the most accurate thought process. You don't want to keep them alive as long as possible, and in fact, that will make them taste considerably worse than a quick kill because the stressed fish will build up lactic acid in its muscle tissues. I use a mesh bag when wading for panfish and it doesn't seem to do anything on taste. There isn't much more stressfull situation than being caught by a commercial net, pulled in and flopping around in a cooled storage container until they sufficate. It doesn't seem to affect the taste too much. It might be better to instantly kill and grill, but I'm not sold on it being very noticable. Fish that have gone stiff and dragged around in the water all day, that's another story. For me, as soon as they are ready to leave the water, which could be hours alive in a bag, they are gill raked and left to bloody up the water for a few minutes. Tossed in a cooler filled with ice and will gut when I clean at home. Half of the time for panfish, I don't even gill blast them. For trout, I'll either fillet, skin and remove dark meat or dress it whole for smoking. I haven't found a recipe besides smoking that will mask the gamey taste of the dark meat though. Even the ones pulled right from a hook, wrapped in foil with bacon and lemon and on a grill. Unless that grill is kicking off some good smoke, I can taste that dark meat working through the rest of the meat. Same with many other species. Take the dark meat off and completely different. If back packing, roaming, ect. Take a gallon zip lock bag 1/2 full of ice. Double bag to keep from leaking or use the ice packs (make your own with disposable water bottles filled 3/4 way without cap on & add cap after frozen). Loose ice is better to cover the fish more. Buy a soft insulated cooler bag. Take an additional ziplock bag, gut and toss guts in other bag if worried about the guts rotting. Have a cooler with ice ready at the vehicle. I did this hiking to the Point at Cape Hatteras (about 1 mile hike), and worked well with morning temps in 70s and noon temp close to 90.
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Re:Keeping Trout
2014/04/08 15:33:11
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I use a mesh bag when wading for panfish and it doesn't seem to do anything on taste. There isn't much more stressfull situation than being caught by a commercial net, pulled in and flopping around in a cooled storage container until they sufficate. It doesn't seem to affect the taste too much. It might be better to instantly kill and grill, but I'm not sold on it being very noticable. Fish that have gone stiff and dragged around in the water all day, that's another story. Panfish and commercially caught fish hadn't really been part of the scope of this discussion until your post, but I'd agree they seem to weather those conditions (and really, most other conditions) better than trout. The taste of the flesh is completely different as well, which likely affects the overall impression of these other factors as well. As far as how noticeable it is, that's pretty subjective. You say you can't taste a difference in this respect, but can pick out the taste of the dark meat in a trout pretty much regardless of how it's prepared...in contrast, I've never ever been bothered by the dark trout meat, again regardless of prep, while I could smell the difference in two trout (one immediately gilled, the other left flopping) after cooking but before I'd ever taken a bite. Taste thresholds for different flavors vary widely from person to person, and even from meal to meal for any given individual. The point that I was trying to make is that these measures are all things that can be done to help one's catch be the best table fare possible.
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