Must be time to move to your property in New York. Opps,  that won't work either. I just finished reading the whole proposal and your right, it really sucks and will do little to improve safety. Nothing done based on emotion is ever done correctly.
Sugar Grove  Pa is still a nice town, their biggest controversy at present is horse manure on the streets from the Amish buggies.  Both deer and turkey within the city limits.

Update- different newspaper--
 Still bragging about the toughest new gun laws in the US.
 Vote to be taken Wed on these measures- however a bipartisan effort disclosed Monday indicated assurance of passage-
  Certificate of eligibility will be required to buy Ammo.
 160 guns listed by name will be outlawed .
 If you own one of the guns or clips you can only pass it on by your passing or sell it out of state or to a gun dealer who can only sell it out of state.( Fat chance- price will be wayyyy down)
  More rifles will also be OUT due to having any one on a list  of  particular 'features' on them.
 Large capacity clips and guns on the list already owned must be registered individually.
   At least it looks like the mandatory 'turning in of clips and guns seems off the table.
  Violations of some rules herein will be classified as a FELONY. ( instacrooks)
 
 Yea Eyes-  think many Companies will move out- sportsmen and shooters too..

My retired  Game Warden, hard huntin, dog runnin Cousin Fred sold his Farm a few weeks back- -that where he's going.  Said hes had enough  around here.
Western Bears, Bunnies, Coon and Cats beware.

Where are all the brainiacs on here that kept insisting that no one wanted to take your guns away? 
 
***crickets chirping****

S-10

Bogey----You wouldn't be talking about this Spoonie fellow by chance would you.

Ahhh...I like spoonie.  He's the only lib on this board that makes his case with a well thought out (albeit sometimes flawed, IMO) logic, and doesn't start flinging insults when his ideas are countered.  To be fair to him, I think his point was that Romney had personally done more to control firearms than Obama, which was, to a large extent, true.  I don't think even spoonie would make the claim at this point that this administration doesn't want to participate in a firearms grab.  However, most of the damage done has occurred at the state level...see CT, NY, and CO.
 
And they've all been kind of quiet lately.

I have yet to see conclusively (I might have missed it since I am now so repulsed by the media that I hardly pay attention any more) that the AR was used in CT.  Last I had heard, it came out of the trunk of the car.  Yet the CT ban is based on the pillar that the AR was used.  Further, was the AR not already on the banned list in CT at the time and this new bill just expands the list?  In other words, if it were used, and that is not a foregone conclusion at this point, it was already illegal, so the ban stopped exactly nothing.
 
Sorry for not beng up to speed on this.

Yes -the Auto was used in Ct at the School by the dirtball- A few days before the Wed, vote they had the PD info released complete with how many mags he emptied and how many shots he took and the small amount of time it took him before he cheated us and did himself.
 Also our Pres came to Ct a day or so after the big anti gun vote was made and gave a talk . I was up in Pulaski fishin so I missed it---DARN.
  Scuze me while I go puke.
 Still trying to figure out if the thumbhole stock on my Muzzel loader makes it an illegal assault gun-they approved so much other drivel I dont know if they did that one too.

It's time for an armed overthrow of the guberment

I was at a gun show last week and spent some time talking to a few political wackos that had a few good things to say mixed in with a lot of crazy.
I also saw a few people that I know that have almost completely dropped out of society and have as little contact with the outside as possible.

I rarely chime in on political or sports posts because both sides of the debate are usually wrong.
If guberment is going to turn law abiding citizens into criminals they will only put up with so much before there is a revolt.
It is getting tougher to know what is legal.
Why were cheap .22 shells selling for $7-$9 o box at an auction I attended recently?
Where did all the ammo in Walmart go?
I sold or gave away all of my guns years ago is my official statement.
Would Rugger 10/22's that I put together be outlawed because of pistol grip or thumbhole stocks and 10 round mags?
How could you restrict a rotary clip?
It was a lot of fun lining cans up and rapidly shooting 50 rounds at them or trying to keep a golf ball hopping.
No legislation has ever prevented someone intent on killing.
The doomsdayers  are no longer worried about foreign invasion they are afraid of our government.
Citizens are being turned into subjects.
A friend mine in a militia always seemed crazy with his rantings but everything he said is becoming true. I have not seen him in a few years but last time we talked he was staying in some type of off the grid settlement and only in Pittsburgh to visit family.
Building more prisons and cutting back on mental health and education is a huge step in the wrong direction

He was clearly taken into custody against his wishes. He did not submit willingly and was forced to submit. His freedom was taken and he was restrained. Thats an arrest-
 Would really like to know the criminal charge used. Arguing the little bit and repeated questioning is normal by an arrestee so that doesnt mean squat- IE, one cannot breach the peace of an officer and aside from his son there was no other folks around.
 Therefore the charge must be gun related.
 If they say it was the passerby who was alarmed by virtue of simply seeing a gun and an arrest  was made we are all in trouble next Hunting season.
 If thats the case hope the complaintant never drives past a shooting range either.
 Our way of life is OVER if thats the case.
 Point to be made though- he may very well have been looking for an incident and got exactly what he wanted.-
   Not that its illegal -but who the heck takes a walk along the road with their kid wearing a orange vest and a .45 and carrying  a rifle and a movie camera and has their lawyers name readily available...Gotta wonder who called the police ??
  Most cops are gun guys themselves and instead of yelling -you cant you cant -what gives you the right-you might be a rogue cop-a rational and cooperative nature may very well have avoided  the conflict that happened there.
 The guy did basically everything possible to be on the cutting edge of uncooperative and pushing the limits.
 Actually so what if a cop comes up and says somebodys outa joint cause you got a gun and he gotta check up. You say yea OK here hold the gun and BTW I'm out chuck huntin with my son. Here is my huntin lisence and btw here is my pistol permit cause I got that too. All that arguing yellin and shoutin gets ya pegged right off as possibly bein kinda too upset and worth a longer looksee. He played that card very well and got what he wanted IMHO. 15 minutes of fame and a spot on u-tube.

Thanks 10- Hey--
 Show that tape to some folks who are only marginally Anti or on the fence about gun ownership=betcha they would mostly feel anybody who runs around with a semi and a .45 acting like that is NOT what we all work so hard to portray ourselves as.
 Kinda think he hurt our cause far more than he helped it with his antics.
 If he showed up outside my house acting like that I know how I would think----

Don't laugh, Scotland, Piers Morgan's  home country banned firearms to reduce violent crime. The only problem is that bad guys bring bad guys they just started using knives. No longer having the guns to blame, liberals bring liberals, they started blaming the knives. Now carrying any type of knife is banned and you can get up to a five year prison term just for possession. The cops are also doing random body search's on the streets in the cities.
 
Until their problem with gangs, drugs, and the mentally ill is addressed their chance of reducing violence is the same as ours.  That is why we cannot afford to give an inch on our second amendment rights.