srl135
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Minnow Trap question
I've noticed a lot of people seem to use them, and I am planning on trying my luck with one as well but had a couple questions that i thought some of you guys could help me out with. How long do you leave a minnow trap out? I have heard a window of 30 minutes to 3 days.... thats a pretty big window of time. My plan was to bait it, drop it off and leave it for 1-2 days... is that too long? PA F&G says the trap must be marked with identification of name, address and phone #. Whats the best way to do that? I am thinking about snow/rain and splashing water ruining whatever i put to identify myself on the trap. How often are traps stolen? I am sure you've all had varying results, but i dont have a personal stream on private property and unfortunately with the snow, my tracks are easily traced.. although there arent a ton of people probably searching out bait right now. Also any tips or suggestions? I found some streams that do have some side spots out of the current with deep enough water for the trap, but in a minute or two of looking i didnt see any minnows. I am assuming they will show up if I place the baited trap, but do you guys have any tips? Like do you have to see minnows around to warrant putting the trap out? In water as cold as we have now, are there any places i need to seek out for best results? Thanks guys!
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Re:Minnow Trap question
2013/02/06 16:14:39
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The longer you let them wait, the more fish enter them. The longer you let them wait, the more fish escape and learn how to get out..... Rip slices of bread and throw in it there.. shake it up to make it crumble and make a scent-trail/cloud of minced bread crumbs, and come back in 40 mins. If in a stream. Buy an engraver tool and mark it. it looks sloppy and hard to read, but legal
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Re:Minnow Trap question
2013/02/06 16:30:32
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I usually use bread, and whatever scraps are left over from dinner. Try to get a little schmorgasboard going... Put it in the evening, and try to check before I go to bed. If not, leave in over night. I paint mine brown to mix in a little better with the creek bed. Also use 50lb test as my line to camo a bit. Make sure you keep an eye on the weather. Most of the small streams will rise quickly. I almost lost my trap from a pretty quick summer storm. Only take the bait that you are going to use. I personally return any that look to be bursting with eggs.
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Re:Minnow Trap question
2013/02/06 16:37:48
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Definitely hide it!! There are a lot of people out there that won't think twice about stealing a minnow trap no matter who's name is on it. I like bread and dry cat food.
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Re:Minnow Trap question
2013/02/06 16:39:45
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bread for shiners and chubs , chunks of ham for cray fish check every 30-45 minutes, personally though i use a size 16 hook and maggots with my ultra light, i can catch 3-4 dozen and an hour and thats usually more then enough bait for a night of fishing
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Re:Minnow Trap question
2013/02/06 16:57:37
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SRL- For me when it comes to bait traps I use Tuna Fish, give it a try poke 4-5 holes into the top of the can and place in the trap. Usually 1 can does the trick. Usually any stream will have some creek chub and should be visible, stir the water up some to see if they're there. If so put the trap in, Personally I had 2 traps stolen over the past 2 years so I wouldn't leave it any longer then a few hours, catch your bait and get an air-o-rator to keep them alive.
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Re:Minnow Trap question
2013/02/06 17:00:10
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I like to see minnows before I set my trap. But if there's some big rocks or an under cut bank they may be hiding there. I set it anywhere from a half hour to overnight. I say set it for an hour or two. Then go check it. Walk up very slowly and you should see minnows milling around your trap. If you didn't catch any, find a bigger creek. How deep/wide is your target creek?
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Re:Minnow Trap question
2013/02/06 17:02:39
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Snakes love minnow traps. keep that in mind. I use dogfood in mine.
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Re:Minnow Trap question
2013/02/06 17:08:01
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Yeah I got 4 water snakes last year 3 were dead by the time I picked up the trap... Very sad to me. Dog food is good cuz you get minnows and crayfish if they're around. if you're after bass that's a plus, trout, not so much. And a big +1 to letting go the big fat egg laden female chubs in early spring.
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Re:Minnow Trap question
2013/02/06 17:44:14
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The stream I am eyeing down is about 5 ft wide at the target spot, maybe a couple ft wider. I was planning to use bread... Any reasons not to? Are water snakes out this time of year? Are they poisonous? If you catch one in the trap do you even try to salvage minnows or just say eff that? Pop the trap open or just set it down and let it find its own way out?
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Re:Minnow Trap question
2013/02/06 18:20:11
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Bread will work fine, however it won't stay in your trap over night, depending on the current it could be out of your trap in 30 minutes. So if you're going to check on it in a couple hours bread will work fine. I prefer the Tuna because the scent lasts longer and stays inside the trap.
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Re:Minnow Trap question
2013/02/06 18:40:25
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No snakes this time of year. They are not dangerous. Unless it's a copper head... If is alive just open the trap and it'll be on it's way.
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Re:Minnow Trap question
2013/02/06 18:42:41
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Pretzels crackers anything dense like that will last longer in swift current.
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Re:Minnow Trap question
2013/02/06 18:46:28
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Don't worry about snakes this time of year. If you ever do catch a snake (water snakes aren't poisonous but they can be aggressive and some people have trouble distinguishing between a water snake and a copperhead [poisonous]) just open the trap and he'll find his way out. Stale bread works better than fresh bread. More crumbs. If there is a big rock or a log in the hole, put the trap beside it. Make sure that the entry holes are inline with the current, not perpendicular to the current. If you want crawfish, use meat (any kind) for bait. Tie off to something sturdy. I recommend using a dog leash snap or a carabiner for the end of your rope. It makes it easy to tie off onto a tree or something. Cover your rope with weeds and brush to hide it. Throw it in right before dark and get it first thing in the morning. If you haven't caught anything by then, time to move on. Right now you want the deepest hole that you can find. A hole right under a culvert is usually awesome. The bad part is that others know this too and your trap might get stolen. As for tags, here are a couple of ideas. You can order tags from a trapping magazine that are already engraved. You can also buy tags made of a tin/lead alloy that you can write on with a pen. The metal is so soft that your pen pushes into it leaving an impression of the writing. To keep it from getting beat up, you roll it up (writing on the inside) and attach it to the inside of the trap. Also, some stores (Walmarts) have engraving machines for making dog tags. They are fairly cheap ($3 or so) and they will make you a very nice tag out of aluminum that you can put on the trap. You just put your money into the machine, type in what you want it to write, and viola! a tag. Keep in mind that the limit on baitfish is 50 in PA unless you buy them. If you buy minnows, keep the receipt. I've been checked for this numerous times. Hope this helps. Oh yeah, make sure that you have a good battery operated aerator to keep them alive.
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Re:Minnow Trap question
2013/02/06 18:50:32
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If using bread (it's about all I use) take two pieces. One piece rip up. The other piece leave whole. Even wheat bread works. I use the heels or crusts from a loaf. Buns work especially good because they hold together longer in the current. If you use a bun, rip one half up and leave the other half in one piece. The more stale the bread is, the better. Also, take a spudbar or hatchet/axe with you to check it in case the stream ices over during the night.
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Re:Minnow Trap question
2013/02/06 20:03:58
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This past summer when I pulled my trap,there were 3 snakes in it,2 were dead ,& the other one was going nuts when I lifted the trap out. I never thought that the snakes would not be able to get out. I guess they thought that they were getting a free meal with all of those minnows in there. I make my tags out of stainless flashing & a engraver. sam
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Re:Minnow Trap question
2013/02/06 22:41:28
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You know, I have been reading all of these posts and never thought about people stealing other peoples bait traps. I have found a few over the years and just walked on by. It would never cross my mind to take another fishermans equipment. Why take something that someone spent their hard earned money on. I don't have this problem because I rarely use minnows or chubs. If I do, I just buy them.
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Re:Minnow Trap question
2013/02/07 01:08:36
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If you are trapping in the summer and you know theres alot of crawfish in the hole then only leave it in for a few hours or you may come back to alot of dead chubs and alot of really happy craws! happened to me last year
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Re:Minnow Trap question
2013/02/07 08:34:51
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thanks guys, with the ideas for tags, and suggestions of less than an hour to overnight i opted against leaving it out last night. gonna drop it off tonight and see what tomorrow brings. I have a can of cat food that i was going to punch some holes in, some old onion buns that were in the freezer from months ago and a couple pieces of bread. How often do you get skunked?
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Re:Minnow Trap question
2013/02/07 08:43:31
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Rarely. Maybe 1 in 20. But I have about a half dozen options near by and I look for them before I set.
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Re:Minnow Trap question
2013/02/07 09:09:28
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I don't trap often in the winter, since I don't fish often in the winter... Spring-Fall, I rarely get skunked, but have come back to 2-3, and usually just dump then, unless a few days before. If you trap a few days before, like mentioned above, use an aerator. Do not use tap water, unless you add in some stuff from the pet store that takes out/stabilizes the chemicals, or can let sit for 24 hours for it to evaporate. If you treat, let sit for a few hours so the temp of the water they are in, is the same as the new water. Creek chubs are jumpers, so always cover your container (good to do if you have young kids too). I use a 20 gallon tupperware storage bin, with holes drilled in. I slide the aerator tube through a hole. If keeping for more than a few days, a filter might be needed, or water change. The bin is nice for travel too, I have a battery aerator that I use when picking them up or heading out to the fishing hole. I have a truck, so a little spilling isn't bad. Note - If fishing the rivers, you'll notice the baby gizzard shad. They won't go in your trap, although maybe if you fill with algae? They also will not stay well in any container that has any sort of corner. They get their noses jammed in, and kill themselves (same with alewives). A 5 gallon bucket works for an hour or so, but usually wear themselves out. If you happen to run into a 20 gallon drum (cylinder or oval) with lid, that is the way to go with these, insulated is a major plus on any.
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Re:Minnow Trap question
2013/02/07 22:50:06
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The posts above offer some great info....I usually throw mine out in the morning and will retrive it in the evening... if the water is low find a nice deep pool and you will catch all kinds of minnows, chubs, etc... also throw in a few chunks of bread, the minnows love it but yes dont be suprised if you ever find a few snakes in your trap they too are atracted to the minnows that go in them. Also I normally put a rock in mine so that it stays at the bottom and make sure it wont be raining much because you can loose it in high water...
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srl135
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Re:Minnow Trap question
2013/02/08 09:07:45
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Well the pool I put it in overnight was about 2' deep. Had 3 chubs this morning and I fully plan on fishing so I kept them and put the trap back out. Do the numbers of minnows typically drop off in the winter? I'm on a side stream so maybe it needs deeper water but the bigger stream also has a tougher current which I figured they would avoid
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Re:Minnow Trap question
2013/02/08 12:14:52
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Numbers drop substantially in winter in some of my spots and some produce year round. Find a hole bend or structure in the bigger creek and you may do better. Glad you got a few any way!
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Re:Minnow Trap question
2013/02/08 15:52:54
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If you left it out overnignt and only got three, don't put it in the same spot. Move it. Move it closer to the creek or river that the stream empties into. Like mentioned above, if you can find a hole with structure in it, that's the place to be. The other place that you mentioned has a swifter current, but if it has a bend in it anywhere, that's where you'll find some slower-moving water. Try there. I bought a seine about 15 years ago and I use it when I'm in a hurry. I put on the waders and poke it into under-cut banks and around weedy areas. I can usually get 4 doz pretty quickly. This is also a good way to get some big chubs.
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Re:Minnow Trap question
2013/02/08 16:23:04
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Most minnows go under the leaves in deeper holes,trapping is always slow. I would rather seine minnows in the winter. I know of a warm water discharge that empties into the Beaver river that will produce a gang of minnows fast,but you have to sort through them,many are 2-3 inch carp,emerals shinners,dace,and creek chubs.
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Re:Minnow Trap question
2013/02/08 20:19:45
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SRL, as many have already posted in various forms, bread works well for minnows and definitely meat fo rcrayfish. I use whatever is on hand fresh or stale and it doesn't seem to make any difference. I tear bread into pieces and at times have used whole slices and again, it doesn't seem to make any difference. I use a brass tag that I cut from a sheet of brass and use stamping tools for name, etc... and secure it with copper wire to the trap. I leave the trap out overnight and harvest in the morning when I'm getting ready to go fishing. The only time I would leave one in the water longer is when I use two traps or don't intend to fish th enext morning. I harvest bait ~10-30 minutes before leaving to fish. I've only "lost" one trap once and that has been in 48 years of fishing which is pretty good, but I also try to hide the trap as much as possible by its' location in the water and also by camoflauging by painting it. Unfortunately, there are many people that would just as soon steal your bait and even the trap itself. I've never had one in private water, so one trap in 48 years isn't bad. There have been many times when I didn't see any minnows in the water, but they are usually there. Don't let that deter you from setting out a trap. I didn't see anyone else mentioning it, but you might want to consider adding an extension to your trap that are commercially available if you intend to trap suckers, chubs, other large baitfish or just want to trap many dozens of minnows. Good Luck!!!
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Re:Minnow Trap question
2013/02/08 20:49:38
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At times, I still see a large number or minnows and chubs in the streams in the late winter. I'm not sure what size stream you are harvesting from but try a smaller stream or brook if possible, keep us posted on how you do. Also, not sure if anyone else has ever experienced this or not but sometimes I see minnows and shiners that die by the 1000s because they get trapped in the shallows and freeze? They also make good bait and can be salted.
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Re:Minnow Trap question
2013/02/09 12:00:16
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5000- what is an extension to a minnow trap??
And yesterday I took the minnows out for the couple hours of decent weather and ended up with two walleye so I was happy! Those walleye sure love the big chubs, nearly instant hits. I moved the trap into the deeper creek before I took the waders off so its in about 3.5' of water now. Good to know the potential increases when the water warms up.
I can also see how creepy the snakes in the trap would be by the nature of stand near **** deep in the water next to the trap trying to untie it lol
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Re:Minnow Trap question
2013/02/09 20:59:36
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I take sandwich ziplock bags, and fill them with rocks and dog food. I then poke holes in the bag with a pair of scissors and then the trap is ready for the water. Chubs and crays both love dog food. When I pull the trap I dump the bags into the creek to fatten up the others for next time :)
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