dpms
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You folks following whats going on regarding the Eastern Sports and Outdoors Show in Harrisburg and their decision to ban tactical guns and gear? Maybe I missed it but didn't see any discussion here. The trickle of cancelling vendors has turned into a deluge. Not sure there will be any "celebrities" in attendance this year. Cabelas dropped the big sponsorship and the list of cancellation is growing by the minute.
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sorry, i didnt see this. i just posted the same thing under anything discussion. ya its getten crazy. all the top pro's backed out including 50 or more venders.
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from The Morning Call Newspaper Cabela's boycotting Eastern Sports and Outdoor Show over controversy Here are the exhibitors who have backed out of the Eastern Sports and Outdoor Show: - Appalachian Big Game TV
- Arrowhead Outdoors
- Athens Archery
- Atlantic Tactical
- Blitz TV
- The Bear Whisperer
- Boondock Outdoors
- BowHunter Planet
- Bowhunting.com
- CanCooker
- Cabela's
- Cross Canyon Arms
- Cutting Edge Bullets
- Dead Ringer
- Direct Action Tactical Firearms
- Domari Nolo Defense Consulting
- Dominator 365
- DuckWater Boats
- Farmland Trophies Outfitting
- Firearms Industry Consulting Group
- FoxPro Game Calls
- Full Circle Outdoors
- Gut-N-Tag
- Heartland Whitetails
- HookHunt
- Hunters and Guides Connection
- Hunter Safety Systems
- Keystone Country Store
- King of the Mountain Inc.
- Kinsey's Outdoors
- KodaBow
- Lancaster Archery Supply
- Midwest Whitetail Adventures
- Dominance is Everything Hunting System
- Mountain Dog Chews
- Nature Blinds
- Northern Hideaway Outfitters
- Open Season TV
- Outdoor Edge Knives
- Pipeline Ridge Hunting Preserve
- Primal Urge Outdoors
- Spook Spann
- Sportsmen of North America TV
- Stay Ready Inc.
- Stokerized Stabilizers
- TNT Archery
- Trijicon Inc.
- Trop Gun Shop
- The Warmbag
- Whitetail Bosses
- Whitetail Heaven Outdoors
- Wired Outdoors
- Woodcock Limited of PA
- Wyvern Creations
- X-Stand Treestands
- Zook Cabins
- 2 Million Bullets
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The only chance we have of winning this one is if we all do stick together. Kudos to Cabela's and the others. Maybe it will give any other shows thinking about doing the same thing cause to rethink their position. Money talks. DPMS-- I thought we would hear more comments from you on the black rifles.
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dpms
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The list is almost three times what was posted now. Every celebrity that was scheduled to attend has pulled out. Orgs are starting to pull out as well including them PFSC and the PA Taxidermy Association.
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S-10,
Don't get me started on the black rifles, lol. I will just say that I will not be attending any show where tactical guns, accessories or gear is banned.
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I'm not going, Tiffs not going to be there!
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I wonder if the show's owner will refund space fees to those that stay in due to what is probably going to be a drastic decrease in attendance.
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Dars, Supposedly, no refunds to those that pre purchased tickets and no refunds to those that reserved space. There is word of a class action suit being filed against Reed Expo since they made this change after folks either bought tickets or reserved space. Boat vendors are pulling as well. One had 6500 feet of floor space reserved. There were 1200 exibitors scheduled to be there. I think we are getting close to several hundred that have canc. All of the celebs and most of the orgs have cancelled. United Bowhunters voting this weekend. PFSC has pulled as has QDMA and the RMEF.
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This is the most updated list of cancels I could find. 2 Million Bullets 24/7 Hunting TV Absaroke-Beartooth Outfitters Alaska’s Ravencroft Lodge Alaskan Outdoors TV Ambush Firearms American Whitetails of PA Antler Insanity Apex Tactical Appalachian Big Game TV Archery Tag Arrowhead Outdoors Artistic Visions Wildlife Studio Athens Archery Atlantic Tactical Atsko, Inc. / Sno-Seal Inc. Avian X Decoys Backwoods Whitetails Outfitters Bad Boy Inc. Bad Dog Accessories Banded Calls Bangin Redhedz Turkey Gear Bear Archery Beavertail Products Big Game Butter Blitz TV Body Guard 360 Bohning Archery Boulder Basin Outfitters Boondock Outdoors Bow Hunter’s Den Bow Life, LLC Bramco / Golden Valley Enterprises Briley Outfitters Buck Bomb Burt Coyote Lumenok C&D Outfitters Cabela’s Camo Addiction Campbell Cameras CanCooker Central Penn Sporting Clays & Game Preserve Chaparral Hunting Adventures Cochrane River Outfitters Cody Turkey Calls Cold Steel Knives Combative Edge Continental Divide Outfitters Cross Canyon Arms Cutting Edge Bullets Darkwoods Blind DCVR Dead Ringer Deer and Deer Hunting.com Direct Action Tactical Firearms Dirty Buck Soap and Scents Dirty Dog Outdoors Domari Nolo Defense Consulting Dominance is Everything Hunting System Dominator 365 Dokken Oakridge Kennels Down N Dirty Outdoors Drakes Migration Nation Driven TV Droptine Outfitters DuckWater Boats Dunn Knives Eastern Chapter Wild Sheep Foundation Eastern Outdoors Easton Bow Hunting Excalibur Crossbow US, Inc Farmland Trophies Outfitting Fear No Evil Field Proven Calls Firearms Industry Consulting Group Firenock Fish Outdoor Properties Flatline Productions Flyway Custom Sales Foiles Migrators, Inc Forbes Turkey Calls FOXPRO High Performance Game Calls Full Circle Outdoors Furtakers TV GhillieSuits.com Ghost River Outfitters – Alberta Goey Hunting Calls Gone Wild Outdoors Goodling Rifles Grand-Safari.com – South Africa/Tanzania/Cameroon Gut N Tag, LLC Hart Rifles H.S. Specialities Heartland Whitetails Herd Guard Hevi-Shot High Lonesome Outfitters HookHunt Hoyt Archery Inc Honey Creek Outfitters Hunter Safety Systems Hunter Specialties w/ Rick White Hunters and Guides Connection Hunters Comfort, LLC Hunter’s Specialties Huntin’ Is Good! TV IceHole Coolers International Bowhunting Organization Iron Kin Hunt Club IScope J & M Traditions Katahdin’s Shadow Outfitters Keystone Country Store Keystone Elk Country Alliance King of the Mountain Inc. Kinsey’s Outdoors Kodabow Lac Suzie Outfitter Lancaster Archery Supply Lanco Tactical Leupold & Stevens Inc. Lone Oak Retreivers Major League Bowhunter Masterpiece Outdoors, Inc. Men in Treestands Productions Midwest Whitetail Adventures Mindful of Nature LLC Montana Mountain West Outfitters Montana Whitetails Mountain Dog Chews Mountain Hollow Game Calls Muddy Outdoors Muskie Moose, LLC NasHunt Outdoors National Wild Turkey Federation Nature Blinds, LLC NasHunt Outdoors National Rifle Association Northern Hideaway Outfitters Northern Outdoor Lodge Northern Wilderness Outfitters North Mountain Pepper Works O.F. Mossberg & Sons, Inc. Old Goat Outdoors Open Season TV Outdoor Channel Outfitters Outdoor Edge Knives Outdoor Specialist Group Outdoorsnative.com Ozonics Hunting PA Federation of Sportsmen’s Clubs PA Taxidermist Association, Inc Pat Strawser Custom Calls Pennsylvania Trappers Assoc. Perry’s No Peep Archery Sights Pipeline Ridge Hunting Preserve Predator Hunting Mounts Primal Urge Outdoors Primos Hunting Calls Proc’s Huntin Buddy PSE Archery QDMA (PA Chapter) Radical Hunter Ranew’s Outdoor Equipment Red Star Arms Reflections Of The Wild Revolution Hunting Rhino Outdoors Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation Rougeaux Taxidermy Rough Country Outfitters Ruger Firearms Rydon Corporation S & W Outfitter Savco LLC Sean Mann Outdoors SecureIt Tactical Shootingthex.com SK Knives Skull Shine Smith and Wesson Southern Game Calls Southwest Outdoors / Cherry Creek Lodge Spook Span SportEAR Sportsmen of North America TV Starkey Hollow Whitetails State Line Bone Mine Staudt’s Gun Shop Stay Ready Inc Stokerized Stabilizers Strother Archery Summit County Outfitters Summit Treestands Susquehanna River Waterfowlers Assoc Table Mountain Outfitters Team Overkill Team Urban Nocks Ten Point Crossbows The Bear Whisperer The Outdoor Loop The Sportsman’s Shop The Warmbag ThermaCell Thompson Center Arms Timberline Outfitters TNT Archery Tough Country Trijicon, Inc Triple Mag TV Trop Gun Shop Turnbull Manufacturing U Slide Bow Hunter Ultimate Camo Umax Outdoors Upper Canyon Outfitters Wallaston Lake Lodge Tex Mex Outdoors The Outdoors Channel The Warmbag Watson Air Lock Watt’s Truck Center Whitetail Adrenanline Whitetail Bosses Whitetail Freaks Whitetail Heaven Outdoors Whitewolfsurvivalsupply.com Wilburn Outdoors / Millennium Tree Stands Wildlife Studios Premiere Taxidermy Wired Outdoors Woodcock Limited of Pennsylvania X-Stand Treestands Zink Calls Zook Cabins
Speaker / Celebrites Pulled Out (37) Abner Druckenmiller – Furtakers TV Angie & Scott Denny – THE LIFE at Table Mountain Blaine Anthony, The Bear Whisperer Bob Folkrod Bob Mercier Brad Farris – Primos Buck Buckannon Chris Brackett Eddie Salter Fred Eichler – Fulldraw Outfitters Greg Zipadelli Hal Shaffer Jamie Gray Jay Gregory J Paul Jackson – Drakes Migration nation Jim and Eva Shockey Jimmy Primos – Primos Josh Miller – SportDOG Kevin Knighton Kyle Wieter Larry Weishuhn Lee & Tiffany Lakosky “The Crush“ Marc Anthony – Speaker / Pro Hunter Mark Night Matt Morett Max Row Michael Lee Mike Stroff – Savage Outdoors TV Montana Whitetails Nicole Jones Pat Reeves Ralph & Vicki Cianciarulo – Archers Choice Sean Mann Stan Potts Bone Collector Tom Dokken Trent Cole Woody Sullivan
Other Boycott Supporters (47) Advantage Taxidermy Studio Inc American Tactical Imports Anything About Guns Backwoods Life Bloodline With Alex Ruthledge Blue Rock Outfitters Bowfreakz.com Bowhunting.com Bowhunter Planet Bowhunting Addiction TV Broken Arrow Wilderness Bowhunters TV Chasing Trophy Whitetails Citizens for a Responsibly Armed Society Crossbow Nation Dave’s House of Hair, Harrisburg PA Dead Dog Walkin’ TV Driven TV Drop Zone TV Eddie Salter Family Traditions TV Gene & Barry Wensel Haley Heath Hank Parker Hard Core Hunting TV Horton Crossbows Hunt Wicked Close TV Idaho Center of Emergency Medical Training Just Kill’n Time TV Keystone Gun Sales Mark & Beau Rodgers – Real Deal Outdoors Mosquito Creek Outdoors, FL NebraskaOutfitter.com Needleman & Pisano Off Grid Survival OrgaPro Ltd. Racing To Hunt TV Roger Raglin Shelly & Tara Seiler – Working for Whitetails TV Stanley Scruggs Hunting Products Team Bone Thugs The Banded Nation TV The Best Of The West TV The Fowl Life TV The Kronik Hunter and staff The Pennsylvania Crossbow Federation The Resistence TV Wyvern Creations
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Good for them. Solidarity. Glad to see some pretty big names on this list.
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The National Shooting Sports Foundation is still urging folks to attend. They appear to be a bit too close to Reed. Probably due to their partnership on the SHOT show. I just sent them an E-mail suggesting they smell the coffee. Quite simple if anyone else wants to do the same-- NSSF--contact --simple message.
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I see one name glaringly missing from that list. The Pa Game Commission.
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the PGC,
There is building pressure on them to pull. I wish they would have pulled already, though.
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They have been courting the liberals and non-hunting public for the last decade or more. It's going to be tough for them to change now.
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Thats bull! Government "entitities" do take sides, or legislators would never vote on anything. Nor would the president introduce policy... Governor... etc... And no, it is not always based on the will of the people unfortunately. And those in no way compare to a game management agency. Pgc is in charge of hunting in this state, not to mention quite a few shooting ranges and therefore automatically should be considered "pro-gun" and there is a problem with that expectation??? To wish them to be "neutral" on gun control issues is nothing short of asinine, especially when the entire friggin outdoor community from across the country is shunning the event! We aren't talking about walking around screaming and thumping a copy of nra today... We are simply talking about standing up for what it right by not attending an event. Im sure it wouldnt be the first event they declined to appear at. Todays PGC is a total joke, and they are showing it once again. And while I wouldnt expect them to be any deciding factor on these issues, it would be important towards making somewhat of a statement to the hunters of the state which they continuously alienate at every chance given. I would understand if dcnr or pfbc didnt pull out. Their mission is totally irrelevant to the topic. But pgc is too close to the issue for their stance to be ignored. Agree or disagree, you are welcome to your opinion. Theres mine.
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I e-mailed the PGC BOC president Martone and got an answer back. They are going to address the issue at the Jan-29 quarterly meeting.
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Thats interesting. I thought that wouldve generally been an executive directors decision. I could be mistaken, but I didn't think that the commissioners voted on every decision made for pgc to appear or not appear at an event?
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dpms
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Doesn't much matter as the show is pretty much done forever. At least with Reed running the show.
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Anyone see the dimwitted Mayor Thompson's response after the show was postponed? Many rumors circulating that she was behind Reed's banning of tactical guns and gear from the show. Crime is on the rise in her streets and neighborhoods and she went on another gun tirade in her response, ignoring the real reasons why crime is increasing in Harrisburg. Pathetic.
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I would imagine she is really feeling the heat from the business community over losing the show if that is the case. 44 million loss just in hotel and restaurant business is a big deal. I think she had just launched her re-election campaign a few days before the sports show problem came to light. Could be an interesting spring and summer for her if it is proven she was behind the ban. They are estimating a 80 million total loss for the city and surrounding area due to the postponement. This for a city already on the verge of bankruptcy. She is a total supporter of Obama and the gun laws.
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Been stayin outa this one but a point that gotta be made- O took most every CITY in the US hands down . Soooo somebody following his philosophy will likely be some kinda Hero come election time--- in the City.( and -as we saw in Nov. thats where the votes are)
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Now the vendors need to sue Reed for the revenues that they lost by there being no show.
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there is talk of a class action suit be explored.
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Here is an interesting tidbit------according to Dianne Feinstein when she unveiled her new assault weapons ban there have been 350 deaths as a result of the firearms she wants to ban since 2004 and we should be outraged. That is an average of 43 per year nationwide. There is a average of 49 deaths from lightening strikes each year. Yep, banning those firearms is really going to fix things.
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We should ban lightening.
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It should be noted they are regularly using the ' even one life saved' line thus trying to negate any references to actual logical stats. Of course it sells well with those already on the Anti wagon and makes the effort at not paying any attention whatsoever to common sense arguments. Notice they havent tried to save any kids with a seat belt on school buses law that would likely gain wide support. Thats the kind of thing that clearly separates them from the herd and points directly to ANTI sentiments being the single foremost issue here. ( still waiting for the M/E report on weapon used in CT- gettin hard to decipher the rumors from reality at this point) If it was NOT the 223 it will make little difference- they will hypocritically get right past that fact.
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