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Sorry to hear this, Pa.
 
Oak Orchard is reporting good fish movements into the stream , estimating they are about 2 weeks behind.  I agree HT, that your fish was dark, but there were some small early schools.  There have been reports of large concentrations, then they disappear, but if it is malnutrition affecting all this, it could happen earlier in the year as well, which would be consistent with low success in the Lake earlier.  My point is that, unless Dime is right and it is just really late (ironic that last year that was my line!), the 1.5 million stocked are not turning into a normal run so they had to disappear somewhere.  Maybe Chartist has enough money that he managed to put the fix in to hold the run off until he gets in next week (LOL!).
 
As to last year's chrome die-off, it was not the gill lice, and the DEC was certain that it was vitamin deficiency.  all samples analyzed were low in vitamin B, one fish submitted for tissue analysis was characterized by the pathologist as having vitamin levels consistent with a dead fish, and if it was alive when sampled, it would have been dead very soon.  Sick fish in the hatchery treated with Vitamin B recovered, the untreated control fish  continued to be sick.  With a repeat of winter conditions, I think we can only expect to see similar things this year, I hope I am wrong, and only time will tell, but they were sure that it was thiaminase induced thiamin deficiency that caused last year's die off. 
 
 

Lucky, everything I say on this matter usually includes an "if" or a "maybe"... Last year that bulk run never came which left me concluding that last year sucked. "If" they come like gang busters for a few days this year, then I'd say its a normal year. But can't refute tunas observations. Time will tell hopefully.

And yes jack, prayers are event for a speedy recovery my friend!!!

RECENT TRENDS IN LAKE ONTARIO’S ECOSYSTEM
Invasive species: Since the late 1980s Lake Ontario has undergone a series of invasions by exotic species, notably the cladocerans Bythotrephes longimanus and Cercopagis pengoi, dreissenid mussels (zebra and quagga), and Round Goby (Stewart et al. 2014b). These invaders have contributed to significant ecosystem changes (see "Recent Trends in Lake Ontario Ecosystem-Lower Food Web" section). The impact of other recent invasive species, Echinogammarus ischnus (amphipod), Potamopyrgus antipodarum (New Zealand mud snail), Viral Hemorrhagic Septicemia virus (VHSv), and Hemimysis anomala (mysid) are not well understood.
The Round Goby is closely linked to the Lake Trout life cycle by acting as both predator and prey. As predator, it can consume Lake Trout eggs and fry (Chotkowski and Marsden 1999; Fitzsimons et al. 2006). Round Goby has been observed in Lake Trout diets in recent years (Dietrich et al. 2006; Rush et al. 2012; B.F. Lantry, U.S. Geological Survey [USGS] Lake Ontario Biological Station, per. comm.; J. Markham, New York State Department of Environmental Conservation [NYSDEC] Lake Erie Unit, per. comm.). As an alternative to Alewife and Rainbow Smelt, Round Goby may mitigate thiaminase-related reproductive problems associated with Alewife consumption (see "Impediments – Egg and Fry Survival").
Lower food web: Lake Ontario water quality continues to improve; however, reduced phosphorus levels and reduced lower trophic level productivity have resulted in overall declines in ecosystem productivity (Mills et al. 2005; Stewart et al. 2014b) and piscivore carrying capacity. Since the early 1990’s the effect of reduced nutrients has likely been exaggerated by dreissenid proliferation, which is suspected as playing a role in increased water clarity, reduced phytoplankton size composition, changes in nearshore and offshore primary production, and a spring-time deepening of Alewife and smelt distributions (O'Gorman et al. 2000; Mills et al. 2005). The loss of the native burrowing amphipod Diporeia has also been linked to dreissenid proliferation (Dermott 2001; Lozano et al. 2001; Owens and Dittman 2003; Nalepa et al. 2005). Elrod and O’Gorman (1991) reported that Diporeia was an important food item for stocked Lake Trout during their first few months in the lake, and its loss may be linked to poor recruitment of stocked Lake Trout. The exotic predatory zooplankters Bythotrephes longimanus and Cercopagis pengoi potentially act as both competitors and prey to forage fish (Bushnoe et al. 2003; Warner et al. 2006), and their impacts on zooplankton and prey fish dynamics in Lake Ontario are not fully understood (Bushnoe et al. 2003; Kane et al. 2003; Laxson et al. 2003; Mills et al. 2005; Holeck et al. 2012; Stewart et al. 2014b).
Prey fish: Lake Ontario’s native prey fish species, including Slimy Sculpin and coregonids, are currently at low abundance levels or extirpated (Elrod 1983; Christie et al. 1987; Owens and Dittman 2003; Hoyle 2005; Lantry et al. 2007; Weidel et al. 2014). The native Deepwater Sculpin was once considered extirpated; however, increased abundance and distribution has been documented in recent years (Weidel et al. 2014; Lantry et al. 2014a). Non-native Alewife is the most abundant pelagic prey fish in Lake 10
Ontario, and dominates the diet of adult Lake Trout (Lantry 2001). Their abundance and biomass declined through the 1990s and remains low relative to pre-1990s levels (Walsh and Connerton 2014; Connerton et al. 2014). The decline is likely due to reduced lake productivity, heavy predation pressure, and poor recruitment over several years (1992-1997; Mills et al. 2005; Walsh and Connerton 2014). Rainbow Smelt (also non-native) abundance and biomass declined during the same time period and have remained at the lowest levels recorded for fifteen consecutive years (1999-2013; Weidel and Connerton 2014; Lantry et al. 2014a). Conversely, the Round Goby population has increased dramatically since it was first detected in bottom trawl assessments in 2002 (Weidel et al. 2014; Lantry et al. 2014b).
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Damp very damp.

Thanks Clint, however It's been hinted that I get carried away at times.  I have NOoooo idea why anybody would think that about me????  
 
34`F. at my place this morning, had to cancel sitting in my 'high chair' due to the thick fog.  Sure is beautiful right now and I have no idea why I'm sitting inside typing on a this 'puter'.  
 
Combine working a bean field on the other side of my bayou so, I'm thinking this might be a good day (trying to be politically correct) to, "harvest" a deer with a stick.
 
Thanks again for the invite and tight lines.

Thanks for the update jack . You can enjoy the weather and skipping the river wasn't terrible as I think you would have been discouraged.
Rehab up and get those wheels back :)

Hot Tuna I must of missed something, am I correct, you too are under the weather?  If that's true I certainly want to cast well wishes to you also.

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Here's a update on my travels.I am now in Ohio with my daughter andwill be going to rehab out here until I get the Okay to drive,have no idea how longthat will take.according to my local rehab people (the Good Shepherd rehab hospital in Allentown) I'm coming thru this in pretty good condition so I hope to be moving freely soon.Of course today I read of a good run of fish coming in but I can't do anything about it !

Jack, it was far worse last than last year as far as lack of fish and dense crowds. Though it was fun to see friends, the fishing was another matter.
You'll make it up with steelhead. We may just come visit you on the Erie creeks one of these days.
HT, if this non-driving thing goes much longer, I'd be glad to come down and go with you guys after whatever, gills are fine with me. ....   Healing wishes to both of you.

Getting ready for winter, dug my sweet potatoes (first try at those) and 100# of red potatoes. I have probably 120# for the family. Started putting stabile in all the summer stuff. We are taking my buddies boat out today  will fog that boat on the way out of the lake today. Hoping to get one more trip out in mine this year to run stabil and off that. If not I will do it in a garbage can.

John the square foot per yield surprised me. I planted two plants and they vine out everywhere. Pretty much taking up a 6*8 area plus. The yield from the two plants was about 2 pounds. With a prolonged season the vines may have produced, but their runner roots were smaller than a pencil. I picked a few of the bigger ones to try. They were red. I broke one in half o the wife will try that one tonight.

Yea it was a beautiful day.. fishing was about the same here, gills just weren't biting but plenty of fun truing.. The kid caught 1 so not a total skunking..
Supposed to be even better tomorrow.. Probably go stir crazy stuck at home but think there re enough projects to keep me going.. May even play with the ice gear too

BeenThereDoneThat.
Thanks for info on the taters Clint, I'm preparing a spot this fall.  Been composting grass clippings for two years now and going to till all that in the garden.  I did quite well with two rows 20' long each for reds and russets this year.  Looking forward to sweet tater fries next year.  I keep expanding my spud garden I'm gettin me a tater plow, I can't imagine digging up the potatoes you did.
 
Good luck with your fishing.

Yea all by hand. Would not want to do many more. I am sure I missed a few too.

Well second morning at deer camp and snowing again . Cold as a wtchet tet up here on the mountain

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