C'mon man spill it.    I did ask my dad the other day what he has heard and he came up with the name Genesee and I never mentioned that name to him.    After a little digging I found this
 
11. RESOLUTION APPROVING PURCHASE & SALE AGREEMENT OF
ALTMAR ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
PARCEL TAX MAP No. 088.18-02-02
BE IT
RESOLVED
that the Board of Education, upon the recommendation of the Superintendent of Schools,
hereby adopts the resolution approving the purchase and sale agreement (see enclosures) to sell the school district
property, which is of no use for school district purposes
, and is located at 52 Pulaski, NY; and hereby accepts the
Real Estate Purchase and Sale Contract executed by Genesee, LLC (see enclosure) in the amount of $410,000.00.

Had reported hearing about that Genesee  company some time ago- the thought was a hotel as they had apparently built one in the Syracuse area- If they are builders it could be anything though.
 I'm voting for the hotel, bar and  eatery.
 Sounds like we will know tomorrow.
 Knowledge is POWER.   lol

If approved it is going to be a lodge... im gonna refrain from giving out the name though. It looks as if they are going to keep the footprint of the school and possibly build cabins spread along the tree line in the back along with a pond... the birdseye foot print showed boundry lines to just before the river bank but i dont think thats the case... thats all im saying as any info on it is too fresh... besides, i did not attend the meeting... one last thing, they want to hire local employees specifically...

Question: what is this going to mean/do to the future of the river and thethe community it runs through???it is beyond exploited as is.... now youve got a company that most likely is buying a place for close to a half million and will more than likely dump another million or so in to it... what impacts do you think this will have on the region, fishery, and most importantly the community????

same as I have heard an upscale lodge.  Don't really know what it will  mean.  It will take some shore work to clean up that side for really good access as much of that shoreline has alot of trees hanging over it.  With only ROW on the one side it will be far from a DSR type place,  and honestly te other side fishes better IMHO.    We will see though.  I hope they can make it work out side of salmon season though.  May - August can be pretty desolate up there and with cheaper lodging in town........

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In the past decade those have become my favorite months in this "almost" north country region

bigbear2010

well i guess we now know who
i'm worried about what and the affects it will have on our camp

I hear ya bear... on one side im sure your property value may go up, but at the same time youve got a large extravagant new neighbor that is gonna change the face of your street/town... hope all works out for ya bud...

thanks for the breaking news db.. Sounds pretty sad to me and IMO a loser.
Lets say an "upscale" lodge/hotel does get built. They charge a high'er price for lodging/access, I don't know but for kicks lets say somewhere around $80. > 100.00 per night and that may be on the low end . Seems the going rate for a hotel ?
With the addition of possible cabins and maybe 50 rooms ,aside from the 2 months during salmon season, only because they may have available rooms, how many people do you actually think will support the place ?
Honestly I look for clean/cheap lodging when I go up there and thats what I see in most people.. When possible I prefer to camp..
 I mean if you cant fill a place that charges only $35.00 during the winter how does one expect to get more people at a higher rate ?
 
I don't think May-Aug will be their only tough times, I mean seriously, do you really think a place such as "upscale" lodging will survive on 2 months per year ?
What I see here is lost access for the regular Joe on foot.. I can only assume such a place would not allow trespassing through their property like the old school once allowed..
In the long term scope of things, it may take a few years 5-7, but Id again , assume (ya know where that gets me) it will once again become vacant and the for sale sign will come back..
 
PS:
The Portly Angler comes to mind.
That place had it all, location, bar and plenty of room> snow machines included..
I stayed there ONCE.. They priced themselves right outta the market..  Until - New York State bailed em out..
 

 Most places up there are plain and simple- a motel room. Ya gotta drive for food drink and fishing. They are starting to charge wayyyy tooo much for most of the rooms too.
  Portly crammed people in like sardines- did it ONE time. Stood up outa bed and jammed my head on the upper bunk. Drive downtown to eat- drive downtown to drink - drive downtown for tackle etc.
  This place has it all in one area. with far more fishing opportunities too.
 Wife and I have discussed an 'end date' for my place up there. At some point when I cant get up regularly for stuff like general home maintenance and frequent long drives for lawn mowing etc- it will have to go--
 Kinda look forward to a place that has it all in easy walking distance- will still be a heck of a lot cheaper than owning. Fellas on one or two  fishing vacations  a year will pay for the conveniences.
  If they are like most of us once you go to a place and like it thats the place you return to over and over. I went to Whitakers for over 20 years- regardless of price increases-xcept when they were out of rooms.
  All that said I hope its still there when I want it- kinda a tough area up there for anything upscale to last year round.

HT and Jack pretty much expressed any thoughts of mine. I'll be sad to see another access lost. I've rarely seen good things come of lost access.
The DSR doesn't count- that's quality water and a choice that isn't totally beyond reach for most.   If I knew there was going to be people fishing near me on that side of the barrel and schoolhouse, I'd just skip it, let alone pay.  I liked it because it was challenging with a fly rod and usually open.   I just hope in some way it's a positive for the river, let alone Altmar. 
 
Charlie

Hey Tuna- using your 50 room and $80 per day it sounds like a moneymaker.
 Normal 2 guys per room at that rate for about 90 days in Shark season is a $720,000 income not to mention food and drink and whatever they do for the rest of the year.
 If Dime is on target with about a mill investment on top of the 400,00 the bought it for thats about a 50% plus return year one- Thats a big deal for any kinda business.

Perhaps this new owner is looking to go in another direction.  Many of the old school houses in my area were converted to co-operative style accomodations.  Convert the class rooms into one or two bedroom co-ops selling them at an indecent profit plus maintenance fees are just what the high and mighty are looking for.  Just a thought......   

Wow, just came in from a striper scout (real report) and these numbers made my head spin.
If anyone thinks any lodge/upscale or not would pull in $750. during shark season, which is only mid sept-late oct = less then 60 days, they are dreaming..
Apples to Oranges but...
DSR has some of the best upscale lodging W/access and they always have winter lodging available..
 
Anyway,
The genesee hotel I mooched in Syracuse last fall was in the $220.per nite range.. Yea it was "upscale" alright if you like fine art and expensive cuisine/drink.. My $18.00 30 pk Busch suited me just fine Thanks..  
The Oswego Best Western   (chain)  in Oswego was $160. 3 years ago and on the river..  
 
I think Charlie hit it !! Huge Campgrounds for cheap/filthy fishermen.
Ever wonder why those are still in business after so many years ?
 
Ah well , Altmar The Premier fishing destination.. Maybe they will make a movie about it.. Hummm..

I'm with you RG  any added tax dollars are a plus in my book and I hope all the other places stay  running too.    New owners also took over the bar/eatery/ tackle shop next to the LFZ.  I forget what it is called, but the new owner is a young guy and I hope he does well.  They do not have there  liquor permit yet though

Was also impressed Clint that part of the deal was to hire local folks. Am sure that was an offer made to help get their way with construction or zoning issues but the area could sure use the jobs- at any pay rate.
   Upscale talk is nice up there instead of bare bones . Plenty  of that already.
Will be a nice fiscal bump up there all the way around- hope it works out.
  Crowds- hey- we got those now. King season is always nuts.
 According to the Lake report SR was mobbed last year- think it was the second biggest year ever  for fisherman numbers. Comparable to the bad old trebel hook days.
 That small shop /eatery/bar by the Zone is a friendly little place. Couple of the regulars at the picnic table are hysterical.

Pulaska--- love it- lmao