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2012/12/21 10:40:06 (permalink)

altmar school

well i guess it really does have a buyer now
and not only are they buying the school property, but have made offers on others in the area
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    Re:altmar school 2012/12/21 12:09:39 (permalink)
    I have done some digging and cannot get a clue  of who the buyer is.   I have also heard the same.

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    Re:altmar school 2012/12/21 12:40:23 (permalink)
    well i heard yesterday that my buddy who owns the land across from the school, where i have a camper, got an offer by mail, i have not yet had the chance to talk to him about the specifics, but it does look like there is a real buyer at this point in time
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    Re:altmar school 2012/12/22 18:33:39 (permalink)
    Keep in mind that whoever it is, the easements that NYSDEC has on the PFR maps now are all attached to those properties in perpituity, so the access does not get reduced except where it was just being granted out of courtesy by a landowner.
     
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    Re:altmar school 2012/12/23 20:35:12 (permalink)
    I can't get PDF files (missing server pack) on my PC , so I used my wife's laptop to discover that there's no river left PFR from the bridge to what appears to be just short of the first wire.  That means the  left bank through the barrel and schoolhouse will likely  be closed.
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    Re:altmar school 2012/12/23 20:45:11 (permalink)
    Charlie , that what I saw too.   Makes one wonder.

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    Re:altmar school 2012/12/23 20:47:35 (permalink)
    Any word on who the new land baron is? 
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    Re:altmar school 2012/12/23 20:57:39 (permalink)
    Yup charlie, its always been that way. We've more or less just been fortunate. There are four properties upstream from the school in which the landowners dont seem to press the private property thing too much... two of them are friends of mine... the one property is for sale though so who knows what will happen there... based on what bear said i wouldnt be surprised if the new buyer is looking to scap that one up...
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    Re:altmar school 2012/12/24 10:17:46 (permalink)
    Call your NYS representatives and "politely" suggets that it might be time to spend a little more easement money.  The state has all kinds of cash when it comes to closing road access for hikers in the Daks in the name of Wielderness, maybe it is time to make more noise about putting the user fees we pay to work.
     
    Just my 2 cents!
     
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    Re:altmar school 2012/12/24 10:26:08 (permalink)
    I don't know what's ahead for the School House property and adjoining parcels north and south but I fear that it may become another pay to play area.  DSR North?  I hope not!!!! 
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    Re:altmar school 2012/12/24 16:07:58 (permalink)
        Considering that a factory or any kind of industrial thing would likely have to stay well back from any waterway and those properties all have water frontage it certainly raises eyebrows on the P to P theory.
       Am I to understand the North side has no State r.o.w. either// if not that too is  ripe for purchase or private lease.
         The fishing community will likely go nuts. Hope so if its P tp P- Might kick the State in the **** on the rest of the river.
      Public access  has always been  a pet peeve here.
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    Re:altmar school 2012/12/24 16:31:38 (permalink)
    North side is PFR according to maps.
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    Re:altmar school 2012/12/24 18:32:47 (permalink)
    How can the DEC after 30 plus years not aquire the PFR from another State agency. sounds kinda of dumb ashis.
     
    Not sure how this all went down, but I do know that in some of the property sold to devolpers by NIMO, that PFR's were reguired in the purchase agreements. Lets hope that is the case.
     
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    Re:altmar school 2012/12/27 12:03:25 (permalink)
    Wellll since we are at it and since this talk is sounding more and more like P to P whats up with the FD and the Ballpark sale ??
      Remember THAT rumor was out long before the School came up for sale and has since dwindled down. Dont mean its not still active. Local fella said it was common talk too so there may still be something to it --darn.
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    Re:altmar school 2012/12/27 15:51:16 (permalink)
    Apparently a company named Genesee LLC bought the School- seems they build Hotels. Looks like the School is gonna go and something else is going up ( info from the dark side).
       South side  issue on SR ???.
     At any rate Altmar just made a bit over $400,000 and will probably have a nice future for local eateries,bars  and gas stations.
     Am glad for them.
    post edited by retired guy - 2012/12/27 15:57:49
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    Re:altmar school 2012/12/28 07:22:08 (permalink)
    Could it be we are all way off base on this Company? I did some searching, and the rumor of a Hotel is unfounded as the Hotel in Syracuse is simply named after a street.
     
    Could it be this is a company looking to expand its manufacturing facilities?
    http://www.geneseeglobal.com/
     
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    Re:altmar school 2012/12/28 07:53:52 (permalink)
    A little more research and I found that the owner of the Genesee Hotel in Syracuse is http://www.woodbinegroup.com/about.aspx, I don't think this is the buyer but you never know?????
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    Re:altmar school 2012/12/28 08:48:08 (permalink)
    Not uncommon for business to form an LLC on each  new venture -especially in this fiscal climate.
     Hunted a large parcel for years owned by the same guy- Had to get several different permits for it though- all different  LLC land purchases.
     Of course that makes it very difficult to try and guess what is going in there-time will tell.
      Now that its sold would imagine it is only a short time till the plan is told in a local paper. Whatever it is its a big deal in little Altmar and will be well known shortly IMHO.
       Been fun guessing though -lol.
    post edited by retired guy - 2012/12/28 08:54:43
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    Re:altmar school 2012/12/28 09:31:29 (permalink)
    Well, with a name like Genesee injected into the speculation. I can only hope it has something to do with my girl "Genny". 
    http://www.geneseebeer.com/GennyLight
     

     
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    Re:altmar school 2012/12/28 10:46:54 (permalink)
    Considering how many Hotels and Motels for fisherfolks and snow folks have floundered over the years up that way and the fact that they cannot generally charge any 'high end' prices it will be interesting to see the result here.
     DSR makes it work very well with its combo of P to P and available on site rooms. The fishing down low however is the draw there and up top is often a VERY different story.
      Of course any decent company had done a thorough survey of its options before the fiscal input with a good idea of profits being made.
      At this point my only hope for Altmar is that they didnt sell to someone using even a  few Federal dollars for any kind of housing or treatment facility- We have far too many of them around here- BIG issues sometimes follow those kind of places depending on their mandate- What a great place for a drug rehab facility- Two guys fishing and three to watch the car and gear- lol.
      That said the general area does house an unusual  number of  facilities that seem well managed with few of the  City issues we put up with here.
      The new gimmick is when they tell ya its for Veterans- we all imagine wounded folks needing assistance- after approvals  ya hear the truth- Vets Preferred If they are on 'the list' and ya end up with those with 'issues'  who never saw 'action' or any Military service- or any job at all for that matter.and are chronically unemployed with  substance   as well as other 'issues'.
      We finally said NO a few years back when they wanted one with a big wall all around it 'to keep the public away from the clients" --lol   They never did admit who was going in there but the wall and secure gate said it all.
    post edited by retired guy - 2012/12/28 11:45:50
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    Re:altmar school 2012/12/28 12:18:58 (permalink)
    I sent this e-mail out to News Channel 9, They do a segment called "What's in store?" 

    For the Altmar Elementary School?
    It's been sold for $410,000. It is located on the banks of the Salmon River. I heard the Sale was approved by the APW School Board and the new owners requested immediate building access.
    I will get to the bottom of this. one way or another.
    post edited by carphd - 2012/12/28 12:20:42
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    Re:altmar school 2012/12/28 15:42:40 (permalink)
    There's a dillhole named Fishhd or some such on the spammin nation site that is guessing its an old folks home. What a maroon.
    Send grammy and gamps to the big farm upste where they can run free and chase steelfishes.
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    Re:altmar school 2012/12/28 16:29:01 (permalink)
    Ya that guys a D-Bag! Just because he lives up there he thinks he knows it all.  That said , that guy knows his stuff when it comes to fishing.
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    Re:altmar school 2012/12/28 16:49:21 (permalink)
    Maybe we underestimate that fishhd guy, looked at the listing and it might make for the perfect retirment community location.
    http://search.pyramidbrokerage.com/default.aspx?tabid=92&f=s&listingid=Y11434
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    Re:altmar school 2012/12/28 17:46:55 (permalink)
    With the lack of a real summer  draw and the other low buck hotels in the area the only way to really make it work would pay for the room and get rights to fish that side.   The DSR's draw is for fresh fish and IMO Salmon fishing on that side is decent, but there are MANY other places just as good or better.   People will not pay to fish there, but may by $20 extra for a room for the limited crowds. 
    I do not fish it much, but from what I remember just past the bridge up close to wires would take alot of work to clear out the trees and brush to give better access. We will see.

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    Re:altmar school 2012/12/29 05:37:45 (permalink)
    Ya the guy can fish!
    Doesn't make him Inspector Clouseau about real estate.
      Does he live there or is he a local?
    Now you're trying to sic Sorryexcuse news on the story.
    All will be revealed by the investigative reporter at channel 9. 
    Speaking of Chinese eateries remember the one across from where the bottle return place is.
    They used to make stuff not on the menu for the trash that used to stay at that dive The "Sprtsmans" Lodge.
    No dog, cat, squirrel or sea gull was safe.
    Yummmmmm!
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    Re:altmar school 2012/12/29 08:54:33 (permalink)
    I think he lives here, but his son is a local. preetty smart guy to fish the P to P for 12 years and never had to do the 1st P.
     
    That take out was the best and the trash would eat anything.
     
    I notice in the listing it says...... "1,623 feet of frontage on Salmon River (southside)."....... river frontage, not private access. I dont think you need to worry about a P to P up there.
     
    My hopes are still out for a rottenchester brewery, but all I want.......... is to cut the grass.
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    Re:altmar school 2012/12/29 10:53:49 (permalink)
    Jeese those losers would  eat Plungeranjo's pizza.
    Save the middleman and dump the pie right into the toilet.
    But they did deliver I hear.
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    Re:altmar school 2012/12/29 17:16:47 (permalink)
    2Bob- it aint Chinese without that stuff in it.
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    Re:altmar school 2012/12/29 18:28:48 (permalink)
    RG
    That was the stuff listed on the menu.
    No idea what they served when we said to just do something real Chinese and we'll take it.
    But it was tasty!
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