Shenango-Pymy outflow

Its been slow this year with the low water levels.  The walleye haven't moved up the river.  I've fished it a couple times with no luck.  Just some perch downstream.

NAY!

5000 thats an interesting comment about a man made dam on that river...and I'm not saying it doesn't exist but I remember reading an article in the PA angler mag about some org. clearing the river of alot of the dead falls to make a channel so the paddlers could get through.

i caught a pike below the dam in jamestown before...always just assumed it came up from shenango. there is another little creek that runs into it but im not sure what its called, could have been from there also

i assumed it came from shenango lake... never thought about it much tho till now

The only dam I can think of on the Shenango is in Orangeville, Ohio. 

He must be talking about the cement dam about 300 yds. below the Pymy out flow above the walk across bridge. That would pose a problem for upstream migration of fish on low water. When the river is high I see no problem for fish to get above. I was told years ago that the lake over flow building (weir ) has screens on as to not allow wood and junk through. I was told that fish cannot pass through the screens but every so often the screens are raised to allow them to clean debris out. I'm not positve on the weir action but when I talked to a patrol officer he basically new nothing about it. 
 
High water fishing. 

Those are from the upper river I take it? Nice! 
 

CAPTAIN HOOK

I was told that fish cannot pass through the screens but every so often the screens are raised to allow them to clean debris out. I'm not positve on the weir action but when I talked to a patrol officer he basically new nothing about it. 

Interesting.  I think the number of fish being able to be sucked through depends on the dam type, lake, etc.  I caught a white bass in Jamestown this spring and I assumed it came from Pyma, although I never knew the lake had a good white bass population.  I highly doubt it swam all the way up from Shenango Lake.  
 
I don't have a lot of experience fishing for eyes on the upper river, but I always assumed they came out of the lake(Pyma) and not migrated from downstream.  Not sure though.  The lower river below Shenango Lake I'm not sure either. I'm guessing both.  The biggest concentration is directly below the dam but I know there are plenty downstream also. 
 
So I guess my question is, does the Shenango River(either between Pyma and Shenango, or Shenango Lake and down) have a good resident walleye population or do most of the fish spill out from either of the two lakes?

 No, I wasn't referring to the lowhead dam just above the walk across bridge as Capt Hook suggested. Maybe it was deadfalls as The Ref posted. From what I remembered though, the dam was very tall so that rules out deadfalls. When I do get there again I could take pictures, post them and don't mind doing so, but that really doesn't prove anything other than there is a dam on a waterway. I don't remember there being any distiguishable features that would identify that location. I was very surprised to see the dam the first time I saw it and saw it multiple times, three to be exact. I was just as surprised to see it as all of you were to read my post.

I fished it twice last spring before the season closed and there were a bunch of guys there eye fishing so that should tell you that they get them there. I think there's a decent population in there and they migrate up.

Thanks , pics are from upper Shenango (Pymy flow) last year. I've fished that river many a day and I never seen or heard of a water way dam on that portion of river. I've never walked all the down to the Jamestown bridge from upstream but very close. There may be some kind of obstruction due to all the trees piled up in that area but I'll be surprised if there is some type of perminent structure there. Not saying it isn't there just never heard anyone ever mention it over many years of fishing that area. Seems like a area below a structure like that would be a hot holding area for Walleye and the word would have spread. No doubt in my mind that fish can migrate all the way up from Shenango Lake to the Pymy out flow. Many years ago Shenango Lake was stocked with Hybrid Stripers (still is) none in Pymy. A guy fishing the Pymy out flow area landed a huge Striper while plugging for Musky that was around 20lbs. The picture hung in the Hot Spot bait shop for years. I beleive another huge Striper (maybe bigger ) was caught not long after also in the upper river flow. Those fish came from Shenango Lake stockings. I beleive the one Striper was recorded by the Fish Commission as a record in the hybrid species back then. For some reason they don't reconize the hybids in there own category, they lump them in with Inland Stripers , but the guy's name and fish were recorded at the time. Interested in seeing some photos of that dam or structure when you get them.

I remember reading somewhere(or talking to someone, can't reamember) that although Pymy isn't/wasn't stocked with hybrids they did raise some at the hatchery ponds there at some point and some escaped.  I heard of a few being caught in the lake also.
 
Other than right below Pymatuning and Shenango Lakes, has anyone ever had decent luck with eyes in the river say in the greenville area or maybe down in New Castle far from the lakes?  Just wondering if there are lots of eyes throughout the entire river and not just concentrated below the two lakes. 

I would say Shenango Lake by river to Pymy maybe 12-15 miles. Yes there have been some Stripers caught the last few years out of Pymy. They claim they were not introduced but they are showing up on occasion throughout the lake. Really not a bad thing in my view. Yes the river holds Walleye , Musky, Pike, and so on throughout the Greenville area as well as south to Pulaski in the lower stretch. The biggest problem is access, private land, plus shore line banks are very muddy and loaded with roots and tree debris. Most areas are just impossible to wade fish. The lower Shenango does have several drops in water levels with man made waterfalls if you decide to canoe . 

34 years ago, John "Jake" Satonica, caught a pure bread striper below the low head dam at Pymatuning weighing in the 30# range.
That fish traveled up from Shenango Lake. By the way...Jake invented the grandma lure.

I'm aware of the Stripers that are [or were ] mounted at Richters'. Dave said they "came up from the Shenango". With all that I've read from you guys, I'm beginning to doubt myself on what I saw. And no, I don't eat mushrooms, peyote or anything else that would induce visual hallucinations,lol! Late this year in the fall I was talking to s agroup of kayakers and one of them said he knew where I was talking about, the that doesn't prove anything  and I'm not implying that it does. With all of this fair weather we've been having, I guess I'll have to drive there and shoot pictures as best as I can get them. As posted earlier, that doesn't prove what I shot is where I'm saying it is, but also, I wouldn't BS anybody. If it's there, it's there. Spoonchucker cracked me up with his comment "Nay" after I wrote about naysayers and troutguy alos with "pics or it didn't happen" which I also commented on. Overall, you guys have been helpful in offering possible explanations and it's appreciated. It's also appreciated that the comments weren't condescending, argumentative, attacking etc... . I was expecting at least a few of those.