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2012/12/09 08:56:30 (permalink)

Over view of 2012 season

How did the season go for you? Personally, I had a great season, if the season was defined as to just a kill. By and large, it was one of the worse for deer activity and harvesting , for hunting companions and friends,I have seen in quite a while. Personal sucess not withstanding, how would you rate the hunting season in your neck of the woods?....WF
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    Re:Over view of 2012 season 2012/12/09 09:41:35 (permalink)
    Well,Id say it was a good year BUT, There are way fewer deer and the numbers will get lower,Son and I also hunt Ohio he saw 4 deer in Ohio first day bow hunting Sept 30) and killed a nice 130's 11pt. I hunted the same woods in the rut in Nov,and kill a nice 8pt with the bow.Total deer seen in Ohio 3 deer 2 bucks one doe. Pa. saw several deer but way less than last year mostly doe and fawns and 4 sub legal bucks one big 8pt.  I killed a big mature doe with the bow mid Oct. Gun Pa. 4 deer first day 3 doe,6pt. Second day 7 deer 5 doe big 8pt that I killed and a 6pt came by while taking pic's. I hunted last Friday of the season and passed on 5 doe. One thing PGC doing is making us better hunters,you don't get as many chances,so you better make them count,most hunters had a poor year that I know. I would like to see a less HR,What's a matter with DOE SEASON or let a hunter kill them on the 2 Sat. in gun season. I myself liked the two day doe season that went to three days then two weeks and in some areas a month more after Chrismas.
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    Re:Over view of 2012 season 2012/12/09 09:43:21 (permalink)
    I had a goodish season. First time in 10 years I havent shot a deer in archery or rifle. Going to to school fulltime and working almost fulltime leaves little time for hunting. I was out archery hunting 4 times this year. Compared to last year I had over 150 hours on the stand in just early archery.

    Rifle I only hunted a few times, saw a quite a few deer but didn't take on shot for different reasons. Overall I had a good season even though didn't shoot a deer. Good times with good friends.

    Although cant wait for the late flintlock, archery season! Gonna be able to hunt more cuz of Christmas break
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    Re:Over view of 2012 season 2012/12/09 11:10:35 (permalink)
    Season was slow, overall, for me but it had more to do with lack of time to prep/scout in the summer and early fall, lack of time in the stand compared to yrs past and trespassers on the main property I have permission to hunt. Didn't see a legal buck until mid way through the archery season, and that night was my first night seeing a buck, and didn't see a shooter until the last wk of the season, when I saw 4 did. Shooters at two diff. Locations, with the second location having 3 real nice shooters within view on the same evening. I did miss a really nice eight pt. At that same location on the last sat. Am. He would have made it to the wall. If the weather would have been better the wk sandy came thru, I am sure I would have rated the archery season better for me. Gun season is always a crap shoot for me and I never get as excited for it like I do archery. Got lucky this yr, stuck it out, and had a decent buck come thru my funnel on the first day.

    Gonna be on the prowl for some new places to hunt next yr and have my eyes on a big, 400 acre block that is on my way home from work that has deer out feeding before dark in the corn fields, even during rifle. Saw a real nice shooter there last week. Thing is, they are unpressured, obviously, and it may be due to no hunting allowed, or at least no hunting by strangers. We shall see.
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    Re:Over view of 2012 season 2012/12/09 13:20:58 (permalink)
    Like that around here too- places ya can hunt they get scarce quick and places ya cant they are out feeding in plain sight. They are smarter than ya think and have a dry sense of humor.
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    Re:Over view of 2012 season 2012/12/09 14:01:11 (permalink)
    Overall I'm pretty happy , had some great father & son times which are always great to have. We both have meat in freezer I got 8pt  in early bow season ,then son got a doe 1st Saturday of rifle season in 2D out of my stand. Didn't see a bunch of deer but being retired I got to be out a lot. Son couldn't hunt as much as he'd like to but he did make it out some with his bow. Saw a few nice bucks ,had a nicer 8pt under me 4 days after I got mine, then saw some smaller bucks but no doe really close but I didn't move around hunted out of the same stand all season.....But it was a great year.....

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    Re:Over view of 2012 season 2012/12/09 14:15:17 (permalink)
    Different deer season for me for sure, with having my 9 year old in his first hunting season.  But it was a huge success as he shot a spike last Monday.
     
    We went out on 6 different hunts - five in 2B and one in 2D..  Hunts were a little over an hour for the most part - opening morning was about 2 1/2 hours.  On all the hunts in 2B, we saw between 3 and 5 deer each time - all unpressured and moving naturally.  Saw nothing on our hunt in 2D.  We saw 4 different bucks, including the one he shot - a six point, a 4 point, and what looked to be a 9 or 11 point.  Good number of does and fawns.
     
    Very little shooting overall for the second straight year in the Butler Co portion of 2B where we hunt.  Same during our hunt in 2D. 
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    Re:Over view of 2012 season 2012/12/09 15:36:03 (permalink)
    Pretty good season.  I can't complain for the success I had, but there's always room for a more enjoyable experience.  Total deer seen from stand was slightly lower than last few years but not significantly.  Over the archery season I recorded 0.30 deer per hour (previous years ~0.35-0.40).  I only count the deer I see on stand.  Of those, ~40% were bucks with the only legal buck being the one I shot.  Hours on stand were ~63 between archery and early muz.  I couldn't buy a doe in the early season so I had to use the rifle to finish filling the freezer.  It was fun to go out on opening day which I've missed last couple years, even though I couldn't shoot a buck.
     
    If I could change one thing it would be for my cousin to get a clue and stop marching around the property alerting every deer under the pretext of archery hunting while everyone else is out trying to minimize their intrusion.
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    Re:Over view of 2012 season 2012/12/09 16:56:43 (permalink)
    dont archery hunt, only rifle and if need be late season flintlock. first day seen no deer didnt go out 2nd day 3rd day seen 3 doe, 4th day 11 doe 1 big 5 point w/ a broken g2  let him walk 5th day giagantic bodied 4 point beded down 11 yards in front of my stand and didnt move for a about 4 hours , 1st saturday 3 doe at 655 a shooter 6 at 805 i let him walk and at 816 this deer walked in front me  i say its a 10 most will say its a 9.  im pleased either way. other then this deer ive only seen 3 other taken

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    Re:Over view of 2012 season 2012/12/09 17:31:34 (permalink)
    In retrospect, this was a great season for me although I didn't put a buck down (yet).  If it weren't for operator error, this season probably would have been my best ever.
     
    I was fortunate enough to spend more time in stand this year than I had in over 10 years.  I got to see plenty of deer and witnessed the most intense rutting behavior in the last week of the archery season that I have ever seen.  Both of my best friends harvested great bucks in archery and I was actually sitting next to my friend while he took a real nice 8 point.
     
    And for me, it ain't over yet.  I'll be out hunting in the late season with either bow or smokepole in hand, depending on the weather. 
        
     
     
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    Re:Over view of 2012 season 2012/12/09 19:27:59 (permalink)
    As previously stated, this was the first year since 2000 this area had enough decent bucks to get interested due to deep snow two years ago and no snow last year and my family took 3 of them in archery season miles apart plus I know of several more taken with the bow. Problem was that didn't leave many for the gun hunters as the herd is still way down especially on the game lands and national forest and there was very little shooting in the areas I checked out the first week.
    I switched from hunting open private and public land  to two areas posted no trespassing and one posted no doe hunting and the deer numbers are still down there but better than where I hunted previously and should improve.
    I'am happy that many claim to be content just getting out and seeing a deer or two even when they go years without harvesting a buck. The PGC is counting on those folks to keep the money coming in.
    I know one fellow who was a vocal supporter of AR/HR on here for years who now hasn't had a shot at a legal buck in the 3pt area since it started. He is now trying to get them to allow seniors  shoot anything with a 3" spike. How times change.
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    Re:Over view of 2012 season 2012/12/09 20:35:01 (permalink)
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    I know one fellow who was a vocal supporter of AR/HR on here for years who now hasn't had a shot at a legal buck in the 3pt area since it started. He is now trying to get them to allow seniors  shoot anything with a 3" spike. How times change.

     
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    Re:Over view of 2012 season 2012/12/10 08:22:20 (permalink)
    We haven't heard much about Doc's doe hunts this year.
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    Re:Over view of 2012 season 2012/12/10 08:48:43 (permalink)
    A members website seems to call 2-F a dead sea. Very few hunters and little shooting or deer activity. Someone, somewhere, always finds a nice buck but not many pics on his website...WF... Gotta be more posts then this, how about some others? Opinions are free.
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    Re:Over view of 2012 season 2012/12/10 09:07:36 (permalink)
       Although I will probably not get any responses here I must take an opportunity to congratulate the posters on a season of mutual respect and admiration leading to enjoyable reading.
     As an 'outsider' ( non PA resident but  PA regular back in the 60s and 70s  -lol) its a pleasure to lurk and occasionally post here on what has become an informative and interesting  forum -
      Congrats on your restraint and good natured participation and a Merry X-Mass to all.
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    Re:Over view of 2012 season 2012/12/10 17:32:06 (permalink)
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    I know one fellow who was a vocal supporter of AR/HR on here for years who now hasn't had a shot at a legal buck in the 3pt area since it started. He is now trying to get them to allow seniors  shoot anything with a 3" spike. How times change.

     
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    Re:Over view of 2012 season 2012/12/10 18:17:33 (permalink)
    Archery season was good as it usually is. Not because of success but it remains an enjoyable hunt for me. I managed two deer with the bow and passed some little ones.
     
    Slow for our crew in rifle season. The fewest hunters I have ever seen. I have been saying it for the last few years but every year it is worse. Not sure who is buying all of the licenses or where they are hunting but it is not anywhere around me. Lack of pressure meant less deer seen and we found ourselves approaching rifle season like archery season but the bucks were in post rut and not moving much. Weather didn't help.
     
    Deer numbers are down overall but the deer are there in some areas. Even where numbers are good, the rifle season has to be approached differently. Hunting the typical escape cover and routes is not what it used to be.
     
    The sport is changing here. It will survive though and opportunities will increase for those that stay in the game. I am not one to complain much. I will be hunting one way or the other and enjoying it.
     

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    Re:Over view of 2012 season 2012/12/10 19:04:04 (permalink)
    Thanx for hangin around us PA boys Retired Guy. I enjoy your outlook on hunting and appreciate your wisdom.
     
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    Re:Over view of 2012 season 2012/12/10 19:28:43 (permalink)
    Sucked!
     
    But, that's because I've been laid up with a shoulder injury that occurred Oct 30th, and surgery Nov 30th, so I missed the best part of archery and all of firearms season. Hoping to be mended enough to hunt muzzy, or at least with the xbow.
     
     

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    Re:Over view of 2012 season 2012/12/10 19:52:47 (permalink)
    I only managed a few evening hunts and 2 days of total searching.
    I did see deer everytime and had many chances of shooting a doe. I really only wanted 1 deer and hoped for a buck. But now if a doe presents itself for the black powder season....

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    Re:Over view of 2012 season 2012/12/11 04:49:18 (permalink)
    Archery was great as usual, got a old 8 point put down on the second day. Seen just a pile of non-shooter bucks and a hand full of decent to monsters. Doe count bout the same as last year. But not as many from a decade ago. Gun season Shot a 3 to 4 year old doe in the first hour. Just like any gun season the deer hide in the posted a properties and close the houses after they get spooked once or twice and I think alot of people don't seam to get that is what the deer  DO EVERY year. Makes it worse because at the same time they are herding up and all or most end up in these areas( well in the units I hunt which were 1A,2B and 2D ) can't comment on any of the other units,But I'm sure its the same thing in most of the other ones too. Saved A doe tag for late archery/flintlock. Should be nice to hang in a tree after being push dog for most of the gun season LOL  Dave

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    Re:Over view of 2012 season 2012/12/11 11:30:33 (permalink)
    One of the best buck taking seasons we have seen around the area we hunt. No as many deer around, but the quality of the bucks has been amazing. below are a few pics of bucks taken all from around the same area. 
     

     
     

     

     

     
     
     

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    Re:Over view of 2012 season 2012/12/11 12:11:51 (permalink)
    retired guy

    Like that around here too- places ya can hunt they get scarce quick and places ya cant they are out feeding in plain sight. They are smarter than ya think and have a dry sense of humor.

    Deer drives are what move the deer onto the places where you can't hunt.  If people hunted right, rifle season would be alot better for alot longer, garunteed. 
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    Re:Over view of 2012 season 2012/12/11 12:37:14 (permalink)
    I have seen many small deer this year...Mainly doe. between spotting and squirrell hunting before gun season.   I know there are plenty of deer where i hunt based upon what I saw by deersighn in the woods. 
     
     But the Pressure of gunseason has gotten them on lockdown and they were hard to find.  I don't need to see deer while hunting to verify that deer are in the area.
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    Re:Over view of 2012 season 2012/12/11 16:01:06 (permalink)
    Nice pics. There always was nice bucks out there, most were taken by the good hunters who kept their mouth shut about their kills. No one can dipute that AR has helped the horns get bigger. Just a whole lot less have that oppurtunity to get older. It seems, on the whole, that the sited population is down from previous years. I hope this is not a trend but it sure seems like it will be. As I reported, 2-C and 4-A were almost devoid of shooting on the opening days for both buck and doe. I would venture that the kill for 2-C will be down at least 12% to 15% based on the shots heard and the previos years shots and kills reported and 4-A will be down 8% or so. How about some estimates from other WMU's? Guesses are free!!...WF
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    Re:Over view of 2012 season 2012/12/11 17:14:49 (permalink)
    My guess for 2B based on the shots i heard is average to maybe above average.
     
    The first day if memory serves me i stopped counting at 8:30 am at 66 shots, first saturday i kept count of the shots all day, it was 311 and last saturday was a little over 110 shots. The average shots heard from my weekday hunts was in the low 40s (hunting from roughly 3pm-5pm).  Not counting opening day as a weekday hunt i hunted 6 week days out of the possible 9 days. 
     
    I can conclude a few things from my data, either there is a good heard population where i hunt, OR the people hunting around me should spend more time at the range. If you ask me, i think it is a little of both.
       
     
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    Re:Over view of 2012 season 2012/12/11 18:47:00 (permalink)
    Didnt the retired wildlife officer say he heard 200 or 400 shots by 9:00 last year? Either number is a far cry greater then you or I heard opening day. You would know in your area if the numbers are about the same. When I was young, opening day "sounded like a war" as we used to say.That was in the 60's and in my neck of the woods, we didnt have great deer populations until the late 70's
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    Re:Over view of 2012 season 2012/12/12 14:15:24 (permalink)
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    Like that around here too- places ya can hunt they get scarce quick and places ya cant they are out feeding in plain sight. They are smarter than ya think and have a dry sense of humor.

    Deer drives are what move the deer onto the places where you can't hunt.  If people hunted right, rifle season would be alot better for alot longer, garunteed. 


    Whats wrong with deer drives ? What is hunting right ?
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    Re:Over view of 2012 season 2012/12/12 17:09:43 (permalink)
    They are fine if you don't intend to hunt the area again that season but the older bucks don't take much of that kind of disturbance before they find another home. 30 years ago when there was more open land and fewer ladder stands everyone did them so it didn't have as great effect overall as it does today. Even back then it only took a couple times before most of the deer learned to squirt out the sides rather than be driven far.
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    Re:Over view of 2012 season 2012/12/12 18:45:36 (permalink)
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    Like that around here too- places ya can hunt they get scarce quick and places ya cant they are out feeding in plain sight. They are smarter than ya think and have a dry sense of humor.

    Deer drives are what move the deer onto the places where you can't hunt.  If people hunted right, rifle season would be alot better for alot longer, garunteed. 

     

     
    Might be the case where you hunt, but don't presume it's the case everywhere.  Where I go, if there isn't anyone pushing, you might as well pack up and leave at 10am, because they lie down and that's that.
     
    As far as my season, this was the first year in a long time that I didn't get any deer at all, though I came close on one, and passed a few really small ones.  It's been getting worse and worse over the past 10 years or so, but the past 3 have been, by far, the slowest.
     
    My dad has a flintlock, so after Christmas, he will try to get one.  I'll carry a shotgun and push for him.
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