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irritating stuff
Hey -we have a great thread on good memories how bout one with things that have irritated ya--might be some laughs and tears too-- Mine was always the bogus reports one would get when calling places for info prior to the Putor age where ya can talk to actual fishermen. Gotta remember some of this is well over 30 years old. lol Things like "some up top'-- 'the regulars are catching them'-'they are spread out in the river'-'they are staged and will be in tomorrow' -etc -all meant NO FISH-- Took a long time to learn -the hard way. Once cornered a guy in a Shop I had called and he explained the fish had been in when I called- but now they were gone -lol. My favorite though was a report about so many Skamania in the upper river one Summer that -'even the kids are catching them'. Took Vac. time and hit the road only to visit the same (the day after the report was made) shop making the report to find NO ONE who knew anything about it. Turned around and drove right back to Ct. Of course there was the time a friend and I fished DSR for 3 days with little to no action at all and returned home to read a publication that said a "major run' of fish had come in while we were there so 'now is the time to come up'. Those old days of Trolling for $$$ are more or less OVER . We all complain now and then about the Forums giving too much info sometimes but at least somebody taking Vac. time and spending hard earned buckeroos has a REAL idea of whats up.
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2012/12/03 12:51:55
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i've felt that way about dsr reports for years, but i have to say this year they seem to be right on
gipes
1. goons-snaggers, litter bugs, ignorant jerks who loose all manners when away from home for a few days
2. internet balls-people who loose all fear and common sense when they feel they can hide behind the annonimity of the internet...btw, most of them are alright in person
3. hyped reports-took years to realize who to trust
but, all in all, its way more fun than frustration :)
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2012/12/03 13:39:08
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I hate snaggers......period!
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2012/12/03 15:48:08
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Hey Bear- that report I mentioned may not have come directly from DSR- it was in New England magazine printed a couple of days after we got back and coulda been info from anyplace up there. NEVER bought that mag. again after reading it faithfully for a long time too. I always gave at least some grains of salt to the reports cause they were directly connected to the bu$ine$$ end of the $port but Geeze some really went overboard. Then they do tend to get some of their info from regulars who know where and when and how and therefore generally tend to do better than 'Joe average'. Never heard anyone make that comparison though when making the phone calls. Ya woulda thought even blind people with no arms were catchin fish. It was always GREAT -till ya got there and should been there the day before cuase the fish they told ya bout on the phone have mysteriously disappeared. lol. After a while I learned to ask for the name of who I was getting the info from- that changed things in some cases- also started calling several places for conditions too. The forums are so much better----and straight--
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2012/12/03 19:34:04
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Although the blatant snagging bothers me what gets me the most is the herding and chasing. On more than one occasion especially on the tribs, I see people chasing one scared fish up and down. Are they that desperate. When they see you they usually stop and act like they are fishing. Those are the times I stay there and keep glancing at them.
The gods do not deduct from man's allotted span the hours spent in fishing. ~Babylonian Proverb
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2012/12/04 07:22:52
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The litterers are bad, but for me, the worst ones were the out of staters who saw nothing wrong with depositing fish parts in the bushes, or, lately, I see a lot of eggs on paved surfaces. The fish littering regulation cleaned up a lot of this, but back in the pre-DSR days there were places along the river where you would retch just getting out of the car. And folks live nearby!
I never liked snagging, but at least the old cricket snaggers were doing what was allowed in places where it was allowed, and usually removing the fish that would die and rot in the river anyway. I get really hot under the collar when I see some Orvis vested Thomas rod wielding jalorme pitching 1/2 ounce of lead with a size 1 hook with one wrap of estaz dragging the stringer of a limit of salmon that he's had in the shallows since morning while he "Flyfished" for fun the rest of the day. But I am working on my crumudgeon merit badge!
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2012/12/04 07:43:07
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lol
like it lucky
you are making great progress toward that badge
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2012/12/04 14:49:58
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lucky i've never owned a t&t rod in my life.
get your facts straight.
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2012/12/04 17:35:54
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people who never show the fish the rod butt.
#8 fly rods aren't made to fish 4# line.
don't be that guy.
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2012/12/04 17:38:00
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Hmmmmm. I lusted after a 9 wt. T&T Vector, after testing a friends. You could backcast a 400 gr. 90' with no problem. I borrowed it and drug a bunch of stripes out of the rocks around Gloucester. I used Clousers with the largest dumbell eyes on 3/0 hooks. I use yak hair, instead of estaz, though. Still, I wouldn't wear a collared shirt in my vicinity. I had an Orvis vest, but I gave it to a kid I outfitted because he was well, friggin' poor like I was when I was a kid. Little did I know the onus I was bestowing on him. Maybe someday he'll have a breakthrough during a therapy session and the damage will be reversed. Simms isn't known for causing mental trauma like the Big O. I can't find anyone I've fished with locally to go to the SR. They've all been there and just kinda say yeah it's fun but....... The but and pause can be replaced with all the irritants you can imagine. Garbage, crowds, the impolite, the unethical and the just plain azzholes. To paraphrase Groucho, I wouldn't fish anywhere people like me fish. I EXPECT the irritants. Hell, I am one. We'll see how long my patience lasts.
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2012/12/04 19:09:39
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Mine lasted quite a long while through thick and thin and in our conversations I may have referenced that after so long things change about perspective on the Lake O tribs..
Seems at a rapid pace these days but still, the fish come for us and now it's not so much the fish we challenge..
So Lets hope a few years longer Charlie..
While I'm not in your town and I hear the same things from my local been there group.
You know I'll meet you 1/2 way any day possible..
My digs :
Trash,Trash & more TRASH other then that the internet killed the peaceful fishing locations long ago with self promotion
Peace & Tuna
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2012/12/04 21:32:50
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Methinks that if we all got to hunt or fish those pristine places we would imagine ourselves to want to enjoy there would need to be either a heck of a lot less of us- or a heck of a lot more places to go. Mr ( or Mrs) Soopreme aint makin any more places soooo- therefore we gotta grin and bear those other filthy beings who get in our way - or just go nuts--lol. Personally _ aint quittin what I love to do cause some other guy is a slob. I will ignore him- abuse him on a bad day- or just move on and avoid him- may even pickup his trash on my way out -but -I AINT changing my lifestyle or giving something I cherish because of him. I will never give those people that much power or influence over my life. Just go fish
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2012/12/05 07:17:09
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twobob
lucky i've never owned a t&t rod in my life.
get your facts straight.
You are usually using a #2 hook with three wraps of estaz, and I NEVER see you dragging fish, even on the rare days when you are catching them! More points for the badge!!!!  And I wear an Orvis vest, it was the best deal I could get when I was still working for the Orvis Shop. SInce that was about 30 years ago, it may be time for me to think about a new vest, or just cutting back to one flybox, a spool or two of tippet, and a small bag of shot. And there will be wing shooting for feral hogs off the Pineville Bridge on that day! L13
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2012/12/05 07:28:49
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lol
now that is the way to take a thread off track :)
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2012/12/05 07:38:31
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It's a combination of the early onset Alzheimer's, the CRS disease, and the lingering ADDH. What were we talking about?
I never really liked coloring inside the lines either!
For those folks who get really irritated by thread rambling (you should see my flies!) MEA CULPA!
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2012/12/05 08:14:33
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POS out of staters who think that their 1 month presence saves the town from an economic demise. Drives me nuts
Sure glad another auto parts store was built to fix all those out of state POS cars that are here for a month. Not to mention all the bait and tackle they get at TSC.
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2012/12/05 08:59:01
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Sounds to me like every personality and character trait has been covere... i guess we're all azzholes in the end  Trevor, id say you summed it up the best buddy
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2012/12/05 09:29:42
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dimebrite
Sounds to me like every personality and character trait has been covere...
i guess we're all azzholes in the end
Trevor, id say you summed it up the best buddy
+2 on Trevors post.
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2012/12/05 15:11:28
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Lucky13
twobob
lucky i've never owned a t&t rod in my life.
get your facts straight.
You are usually using a #2 hook with three wraps of estaz, and I NEVER see you dragging fish, even on the rare days when you are catching them! More points for the badge!!!!
And I wear an Orvis vest, it was the best deal I could get when I was still working for the Orvis Shop. SInce that was about 30 years ago, it may be time for me to think about a new vest, or just cutting back to one flybox, a spool or two of tippet, and a small bag of shot. And there will be wing shooting for feral hogs off the Pineville Bridge on that day!
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At least time to wash it. phew will fish down wind for cripe sakes? Stealh snagging. Going down to a #2. NOW GET OFF MY LAWN BEFORE I GO ALL CLINT FREAKINEASTWOOD ON YOU.
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2012/12/05 15:18:12
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How about the guy that gets in with several people that are rotating a run and then grows (or thinks he can) roots when he gets into the sweet spot.
Like the maroon thinks we don't know where the gut is so we all just fish thru it and keep moving or go back to the top to start again.
It one of the reasons my wife keeps begging me not to get a carry permit.
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2012/12/05 18:09:41
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That's why you keep telling me to go stand upwind of the guy in the Maroon vest! Chauvanistic Frank Isgro in the good old days! Honestly, I thought you had to dryclean the vest and since I swing wet flies, the two were incompatable! http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=QPD8L-AzLV0 L13
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2012/12/05 18:48:47
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irritating stuff.....
Reading this thread. LOL
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2012/12/05 20:04:00
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troutbum21
irritating stuff.....
Reading this thread. LOL
True..
"whats that smell like fish oh baby" .. J. Kaukonen
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2012/12/05 22:25:14
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Sometimes wear my old Orvis wading boots with my Wal Mart stocking foot waters--Is that a sin ???
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2012/12/06 06:21:51
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Sometimes i use a bobber, sometimes i use a spey rod, sometimes i highstick nymph with a spey rod, sometimes i chuck and duck, sometimes i use a rapala with treble hooks, i am an out of stater who bought property in ny state, i have worn orvis gear, i have some rods and reels that are expensive, i have a dsr season pass, i sometimes fish the fly zone, i have stood my ground in spots i was hooking fish in, i have killed trout... i can keep going but i guess its plain to see that i am the most irritating azzhole around! !!!!!
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2012/12/06 14:48:43
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OK Dime I grant you that but I am still king of the run sentence until someone comes along and writes more longwinded posts about almost anything whether the original post was related in any way or not using less puncuation no spell checking while rambling in a chain of conciousness thought resembling a toad dancing on a hot plate to the theme from deliverence and by doing so wrests the crown from your head becoming the azzhole in chief in a clever back door cabal.
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2012/12/06 15:20:22
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2012/12/06 16:26:03
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This thread has officially fell in the toilet...will someone flush it?
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2012/12/06 16:30:27
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As they say in Parliament, "Here, Here."
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