FACT: The number of Steehead is exactly the same ( to the fish ) today, as it was in 1999, or 1985.
 
In lake Arthur ( 0 ).

I understand that its hard to see the sarcasm in the entirety of my post. Most of the "Facts" stated on this forum are nothing but opinions. Its a fact that people stand in the holes, its not a fact that sea lamprey, Sea dragons, Krakens, and other Species are eating the steelhead causing the run to have that much of a change. I apologize for my minor lack of grammar skills. Make sure you alert your 8th grade teacher and let her know someone is not using proper grammar on an internet fishing forum. I understand you boaters pay to keep 30-40 steelhead a week. I mean, God forbid 3 a week reaching 30 pounds was not enough.
 
Its a fact that some of the things are NOT FACTS, and its also a fact that some of these things probably are facts. Get off the internet, Put the grammar books down, step out from standing on the fish, catch and release once in a while, and go catch some fish. There is a reason I have 7 posts... Its because there is no water in the Tribs, and the run in 1989 was probably better at this time, this day, This year. due to more water, and that.. Is probably a fact.

You didn't just say that the boaters shouldn't keep as many. You said they shouldn't target them. I suppose you feel the same about that Browns, Even though it was a primarily boat angler oriented organization that spearheaded the current stocking program.

Go to the wheres the fish thread. Zebra muscles are to blame for the lack of fish. There you are enlightened.
 
Boaters should not target these fish. They are stocked in the creek and should be targeted only in the creek. Lets stock them in the lake instead and see where the erie steelhead experience goes.

mike55
Go to the wheres the fish thread. Zebra muscles are to blame for the lack of fish. There you are enlightened.

 
Please provide links or quotes to back up your "Facts".   Are you talking about the post I quoted below from bigbear?  
 
It doesn't sound like he's stating zebra muscles only are to blame, or that it's even a fact.  Sounds like he's saying several different things "could be to blame" and that other things are "likely" but I don't see any "Facts" there.
 

bigbear
have there been any studies done on why return rates are low?
pollution could be to blame but its more likely that the food chain is being interfered with by asiatic clams or zebra mussels, could be the fish are just spawning in the lake instead of running the tribs, could even be that the bass and walleye are eating the young fingerlings going into the lake...it would be very interesting to see some scientific research on the why.

Kill-em all Fresh. They're blocking the Burpit from running.

freshwaterdrumR

mike55
I understand you boaters pay to keep 30-40 steelhead a week. I mean, God forbid 3 a week reaching 30 pounds was not enough.

Most of the boats catching that many steelhead were charters with 4-6 clients on board. So if each of the 6 people caught their limit of 5 thats 30 fish. Those people may only get out fishing once a year on a charter, so those 5 fish could last them all year. Whats the problem?

BTW I killed all but one steelhead I hooked out there this year. FACT!

 
+1.  Of the several dozen SH and several dozen BT and dozen or so LT I caught on the lake this spring/summer/fall, I sent one SH home with Deetz to smoke because it wasn't going to make it.  FACT!
My Lake Erie permit and trout stamp is just as valid as a trib fisherman's.  FACT!

mike55

Its a fact that some of the things are NOT FACTS, and its also a fact that some of these things probably are facts.

Ever thought about being a politician?  I think you'd be good at it.

FACT: I once farted an entire block of cheese...

KJH807

"5 poorly thought out opinions"

 
+++1 on this statement

FACT: At an average weight of 6#'s, it takes 432 Steelhead to fill the back seat of a BMW.

smhj

I also came home with 1 steelhead from fishing on a members boat to smoke. FACT  I think we paid the price for that because we did a 360 while trolling.

  Forgot about that one.  Make that 2 SH kept this summer.

They keep it going because the powerbait industry (and thus the national economy)would collapse without it. Fact.

coldfront

rip, we buy powerbait in five gallon buckets down here in the desert.  armadillos suck that stuff right up.

 
 

chartist1
......If you think steelhead fishing exists other than to promote steelhead fishing tourism, you are out of you mind.

Ok...I'm out of my mind.  However, I wouldn't be heartbroken if you decided it just wasn't worth it any longer to make the trip up here.  We'd survive juuuuussst fine without ya. .  Take care now...buh bye!