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Ekaufee17
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city of pittsburgh?
Just wondering, has anyone fished the mon or allegheny within the city of pittsburgh? I see people fishing all the time (I work at pnc park) but have always heard it was dirty and terrible for fishing. I've ever seen a couple of the bucco's pitchers fishing underneath the clemente bridge. Any info on the layout/fish and other tips would be great. Thinking about hitting it up before the game tomorrow night. Thanks!
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Re:city of pittsburgh?
2012/05/29 10:11:27
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All Three Rivers around city limits are excellent for smallmouth bass and sauger. you can crush smallmouth with a simple carolina rig and a rubber worm. All along the shorlines. I catch anywhere between 50-100 smallies everytime i go out. June Bug color works best for me.
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Re:city of pittsburgh?
2012/05/29 10:46:58
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A lot of nice walleye in the 3 rivers pool too. Cast or jig sonar's (blade baits) around bridge pilings. 3" silver lipless crankbaits are also your friend. Both of those baits will get you smallies, eye's, and the occasional largemouth.
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Re:city of pittsburgh?
2012/05/29 11:13:16
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Although those blade baits work great, fishing from shore with them, means about 3 casts before losing to the bottom... I've always used lead jig heads, variety of sizes per the conditions, with shad or twister bodies. Fishing right in that area that you mentioned is pretty good. Do a search on this site for downtown, north side, hot water discharge, ect. You will likely find some pretty detailed directions to some hot spots. Urban fishing, is just like anything urban, you will likely run into some strange characters. The closer to downtown, the more likely you will run into non-fishermen close to the rivers. A mile or two up stream from the North Shore, opens up very nice with a bike trail running along side the river. Go far enough up, and you will run into the back channel of Washington's Landing, which is more like fishing a creek. A few more miles, will put you below the Highland Park Dam, which is the premiere spot to many locals... The state consumption advisories are more leanient to the Pgh rivers than they are for Lake Erie, and most people don't think twice about slaying and filletting from the big pond. Personally, I have fished during some rainstorms in the local rivers, and put my own advisory out... You should catch some fish if you cast around for and hour or so.
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Re:city of pittsburgh?
2012/05/29 11:45:45
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If you have a boat and are into strong fighting catfish, I like to take my boat down (southside launch) put the downriggers on and troll worm harnesses with either worms or cut meat/chicken livers for catfish. Did it for the first time last summer and I was hooked. A lot of action and a lot of fun!.
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Re:city of pittsburgh?
2012/05/29 13:39:34
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so how deep is that water along pnc park? before/after many sporting events i always wondered how deep the water is right there.
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Re:city of pittsburgh?
2012/05/29 14:18:15
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so how deep is that water along pnc park? before/after many sporting events i always wondered how deep the water is right there.
Around 6 feet at the wall, normal summer water levels.
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Re:city of pittsburgh?
2012/05/29 14:49:04
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James mcdonald and aj burnett fish there practically every day in the mornings. Both guys are HUGE into fishing.
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Re:city of pittsburgh?
2012/05/29 15:38:34
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If you work at pnc park you are literally steps away from one of the best flathead fishing spots in pittsburgh. Im not gonna give details in an open post, but if u wanna get into the big guys at night pm me and ill give you some places to start.
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Re:city of pittsburgh?
2012/05/29 16:09:57
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D-nymph
Around 6 feet at the wall, normal summer water levels.
Thats it? When I was younger I always scared of falling in and and sinking 30 feet to the bottom and drowning. Never realized it was that shallow. That just goes to show you the power of a kids imagination.
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Re:city of pittsburgh?
2012/05/29 16:12:33
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D-nymph
Around 6 feet at the wall, normal summer water levels.
Thats it? When I was younger I always scared of falling in and and sinking 30 feet to the bottom and drowning. Never realized it was that shallow. That just goes to show you the power of a kids imagination.
Yep, that's it, at least in the areas along the walk that I'm familiar with, which is not the entire river walk. There is a dredged out channel in the middle that's more like 25 feet, from what I understand. But it's pretty shallow near the wall.
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Re:city of pittsburgh?
2012/05/30 00:56:57
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I have just one question. I see a whole lot of people on here talking about how good the fishing is around Pittsburgh. Why is it, then, that during the Bassmaster tournament, the best bass fishermen on the face of the planet could only manage miserable totals? Just a question. Was it the water conditions, or have the rivers just improved since then?
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Re:city of pittsburgh?
2012/05/30 01:05:54
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Conditions played a role. Time of year played another. But mostly, it's just a totally different kinda fishery than they ( the "pros" ) are accustomed to.
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Re:city of pittsburgh?
2012/05/30 07:05:36
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I have just one question. I see a whole lot of people on here talking about how good the fishing is around Pittsburgh. Why is it, then, that during the Bassmaster tournament, the best bass fishermen on the face of the planet could only manage miserable totals? Just a question. Was it the water conditions, or have the rivers just improved since then?
If I recall correctly, it rained a good portion of that tournament, the river was high and muddy, also the "pro's" had nothing but good things to say about our fishery. The numbers were there, however the size was not! ....recent survey done showed improved numbers of 11 legal catches per hour, our rivers get better and better every year. Also these "pro's" all shot up and down the rivers miles and miles, I barely saw anyone fish right around the city. http://triblive.com/sports/outdoors/1867528-74/fish-river-species-rivers-allegheny-ventorini-area-commission-boat-quality
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Re:city of pittsburgh?
2012/05/30 08:11:52
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Porktown Urban fishing, is just like anything urban, you will likely run into some strange characters. The closer to downtown, the more likely you will run into non-fishermen close to the rivers.
Followed by can I have that fish, or can I have three bucks cause my check won't come for another 2 weeks If you can conceal carry, take it with you especially at night. Never know anymore in those places
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Re:city of pittsburgh?
2012/05/30 09:11:23
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The BASS Masters championship was mostly, like all sporting events in the mega media era we are in, to attract as many viewers as possible. They were trying to shed their Southern only appeal, by placing it in a Northern city. Not really sure if it worked. Smallmouth and spotted bass are only a fraction of the river's population too. There are even fewer largemouth around. I'm not sure anyone on here is claiming that the Pgh area rivers are a World Class smallmouth fishery, just a rather productive all around fishery. Another issue with the BASS championship, was the abundance of juvenile gizzard shad that Summer. That year, was one of the largest amounts that I have ever seen. With the amount of shad in the water, it was hard to trick the fish with immitations. They were also not in their standard "ambush" type structure, since they really didn't need to be. They were even kind of hard to trick with live gizzard shad too that Summer. They did show a few "other fish" caught, mostly I'm guessing to fill camera time... But there were a bunch of non-sunfish bass species caught by the pros. I didn't watch the Forrest Gump Classic, so not sure if it had the same results or not. As for the creeps... Avoid night fishing if you are not in a group. Stay in a well lit area if you are downtown or close to. I've never had any major issues during the day, besides asking for bus fare or trying to sell drugs. Nothing to ever draw a weapon. Stick to the PNC side, especially game days, and you'll avoid a lot of the crazies. You'll probably get stopped by a ton of other fishermen or others going to the game, asking if you ever catch anything ect.
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Re:city of pittsburgh?
2012/06/26 09:19:40
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I work downtown and would like to do a little fishing during my lunchbreak. With these high summertime temperatures lately would there be any place where I may have some luck fishing from the shore around midday? I'm guessing that most of the fish would be in the deep water. I am willing to go about 2 or 3 miles up any of the rivers in search of good fishing opportunities. Would fishing in shaded areas, or around bridges or dropoffs be productive?
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Re:city of pittsburgh?
2012/06/26 11:25:49
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brent, check out pittsburgh tri anglers club
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Re:city of pittsburgh?
2012/06/26 11:39:37
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there's fish literally everywhere in the 3 rivers...obviously there's more fish in certain areas and more game fish in certain areas but if you take a worm and a hook anywhere on the rivers you'll catch fish... as far as lures...twister tails, hus lur (small silver spoon like lures) popppers, small spinners...all are going to put game fish in your net safety is an issue...would stay in areas with some foot traffic and i would carry some form of protection... (i do)..i also would avoid flashing anything of value (inluding decent fishing equipment) and don't get all drunk because then you are a target
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Re:city of pittsburgh?
2012/06/26 11:51:30
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Thanks for the suggestions, accountant and tanner. I will check out the Trianglers group tomorrow, it should be fun and I'm sure I'll get a lot more ideas talking to the others there. I never really learned to fish, when I was growing up my family just wasn't into it and I never picked it up. I figure if I can get out a few days a week at lunchtime I'll get some practice and learn how to catch a few fish. It's something I'd like to be able to do with my own family. My goal is to get somewhat proficient so when I take the kid and the wife they don't get bored and get turned off from the whole idea. Brent
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Re:city of pittsburgh?
2012/06/26 14:02:28
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It's downtown during midday, if you feel the need to carry protection going to work, then the same for fishing. You will be a little off of the main flow, but people always walk and take lunch breaks on the river walk. That said, probably best to put a nice watch and large amounts of cash in your desk locked up. Start at the Clemente Bridge access area, and work your way down to the point, or other way around depending on where your office is. You will run into some areas that hold promise. You might catch something, you might not, but there are definitely fish in that stretch. As well as the point, and the Mon side, but harder to access with the freeway there and all. Look for current breaks, bridge pillars or just about anything that looks out of place. This will likely mean structure, which fish gather around. Also means snags, but if you aren't getting them, your probably not catching many fish. As for taking kids, it really isn't a good family area... The rivers in general aren't IMO, unless you live walking distance to one. The moving water, really isn't all too safe, and the chances of catching enough fish consistently, isn't likely going to keep the attention of younsters. Places like North Park (although likely needs another year to rebound), Racoon, and many other community park lakes with parks close by, are a good place to get kids into fishing. Something with abundent panfish, that are willing to bite. Let them fish at their own pace. Not much turns them off more than getting bored and Mom/Dad saying, you have to sit here. Use the search feature above for "kids fishing, or local lakes, ect.". If fishing the river, look at the suggestions above for baits, ect. If fishing the lakes, look at getting some live bait. Wax worms are great for panfish. Small minnows also catch a bunch of panfish, with more chance of a larger crappie / perch or a largemouth or two mixed in. The Berkley Gulps work great too, if you aren't into live bait. They're a bit expensive, but you can catch 3-4 (or 10) fish on a bait before it needs replaced, and if the fish aren't biting, you're not dumping bait. I really like the 1" Gulp minnows on a 1/16 oz jig, either under a bobber or drop shotting. These all work in the rivers too.
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Re:city of pittsburgh?
2012/06/26 14:25:43
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Thanks Porktown, you just gave me a lot of really useful information there. I wasn't clear on my last post, but my intent was to hone my fishing skills by myself around the downtown area whenever I get a chance, but to take the family out to the lake on weekend trips. We live in the Greenfield neighborhood of Pittsburgh, which is on the Mon across from Homestead, but I don't know that we would be doing any fishing down there.
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Re:city of pittsburgh?
2012/06/26 20:42:54
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I used to live on Nantasket st, a block away from Hough's. below the hi-level bridge is a good local spot for you to hone as well. I used to fish there a good bit, it is called duck hollow (more like turd hollow after a good rain)... Turn at the apartment building right before the bridge and keep heading down the hill. I've seen kids down there, depending on how old yours are. I would wear waders and wade out on the sand bar, but you can fish from the pier there, but pretty high up.
Note - fishing the rivers is a bit different than fishing lakes. You need a little more weight in the rivers, and use the current to help move your bait/ lure. Lakes, unless fishing from a boat, want something a little lighter. A lure will sink slower in moving water, and rise faster being reeled in the moving water.
Good luck. Greenfield is a pretty cool neighborhood. I haven't lived there for over 10 years, but still make it to Houghs a bit, and a trip to The Coop here and there, used to be every Wednesday...
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Re:city of pittsburgh?
2012/06/26 23:31:10
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Porktown I used to live on Nantasket st, a block away from Hough's. below the hi-level bridge is a good local spot for you to hone as well. I used to fish there a good bit, it is called duck hollow (more like turd hollow after a good rain) Hough's is one of my favorites, still go there twice a month, mostly for wing nights (and all those beverages). I live nearby and fish duck hollow a number of times every spring and fall. Caught a decent amount there last fall, but this year I struggled. Haven't fished it since May. Lots of people fishing the wall especially on weekends, and a few always wading. Week nights you'll see 2-4 guys wading. I walk out on that peninsula and just wade a little (no waders just old shoes and shorts - why the hell not?) Gets a bit crowded but a good shore spot within the city, good recommendation porktown. Always a big run on white bass down there too which can be fun.
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Re:city of pittsburgh?
2012/06/27 01:35:47
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I work at pnc park, so after the game on friday some buddies of mine and I stayed and fished for catfish. Caught a massive blue. As well as some carp. All of them had decent size to them. How my car smelled after a container of chicken livers sat in it during the game is a different story though...
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Re:city of pittsburgh?
2012/06/27 08:43:51
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Ha ha - I think we have all been burned by leaving chicken livers somewhere they shouldn't have been left. BTW it was probably a big channel or flathead, not a blue.
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Re:city of pittsburgh?
2012/06/27 09:53:22
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I had a minnow bucket with about 50 crawfish in it set in my trunk for a couple of days in the summer. I think that was worse than chicken livers. I about puked and I've got a strong stomach.
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Re:city of pittsburgh?
2012/06/27 10:15:47
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When you guys fish down by PNC Park, where do you park? I am from Westmoreland county so although I can find my way around the city, I am not real familiar with where to park. Do you have to use one of the pay parkinglots? And yes, I would be carrying when fishing there at night. Never know what weirdos are there at night. Have you guys ever smelled nightcrawlers after they have sat in your trunk and melted for a week? I think they could rival anything for stink.
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Re:city of pittsburgh?
2012/06/27 10:52:20
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there is metered parking all around pnc park if you want to fish. keep in mind that you can't park at the meters if there is a pirate game going on.
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