Josh7388
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musky setup
i want to get a good musky set up for casting mostly, id like a baitcasting setup...any suggestions
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RE: musky setup
2012/04/24 23:18:55
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st croix rod with a abu garcia revo toro winch 60 or 61 if you prefer left handed baitcasters
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RE: musky setup
2012/04/25 09:31:38
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How much you wanna spend???
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RE: musky setup
2012/04/25 09:53:20
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Just bought a Shimano 400 series Cardiff reel seems nice for the price of 100 bucks. Any musky rated pole will do for your first pole, can be had for around 100 bucks. So for about 230 bucks (includes line) you could have a setup that works well.
Another option is the pete maina bass pro shops reel. My buddy has one, likes it alot.
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RE: musky setup
2012/04/25 10:43:50
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7-8.5 foot heavy-action bait-casting rods. the more you pay, normally the better the rod is. the longer the rod is, longer the cast, typically better action to the baits, and easier and more effective figure 8's. If throwing big and nasty baits like double cowgirls and bulldawgs, you may want to consider a rod that is fairly flexible to absorb some of the weight, it'll save your fore-arms in the long run. And def make sure it has a long butt/handle on the end of it. at least 15 inches. makes all the difference
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RE: musky setup
2012/04/25 13:19:17
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If throwing big and nasty baits like double cowgirls and bulldawgs, you may want to consider a rod that is fairly flexible to absorb some of the weight, it'll save your fore-arms in the long run.
I've actually found that to be the opposite from what you stated. If you fish bigger stuff like that, I would suggest getting a stiffer rod. A bulldog is a jig, at times you are jerking/hopping the bait during the retrieve. A flexible rod will do nothing but negate half of your effort, where as with a stiffer rod you will have more feel to tell what you're bumping, and more power to drive the hook home with those rubber baits. Just my opinion though... It's best to match the tool with the job you'd wish to achieve.
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RE: musky setup
2012/04/25 13:23:30
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and I would suggest (again, my opinion), if you're just starting out, look into the Okuma EvX series of rods. They are reasonably priced (~$110), come with a lifetime insurance policy (a phone call and $15 shipping = brand new rod) and they are made well. I own 3 of them and have had them for the last 4 years. I broke the tip on one and sent it back, had a new one within a month. They didn't even ask if it was my own fault or not 
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RE: musky setup
2012/04/25 14:37:03
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ORIGINAL: dealinsteel
ORIGINAL: BoroMusky
If throwing big and nasty baits like double cowgirls and bulldawgs, you may want to consider a rod that is fairly flexible to absorb some of the weight, it'll save your fore-arms in the long run.
I've actually found that to be the opposite from what you stated. If you fish bigger stuff like that, I would suggest getting a stiffer rod. A bulldog is a jig, at times you are jerking/hopping the bait during the retrieve. A flexible rod will do nothing but negate half of your effort, where as with a stiffer rod you will have more feel to tell what you're bumping, and more power to drive the hook home with those rubber baits. Just my opinion though... It's best to match the tool with the job you'd wish to achieve.
+1 My suggestion look for a rod rated for 12-16 oz baits. A good stout rod can be used for almost evey bait in a musky fishermans box. That way you will never be undergunned. I use my Toothtamer jaw breaker it is XXXH action rated for 48oz baits, I can throw bass spinner baits with it if needed. Remember the rod and reel will be only a drop in the bucket compaired to the price of all the baits you will buy. Average musky bait is about $20. So better check your budget before you invest alot of money in musky gear, and be prepaired to go days weeks or months (i haerd some people going years) between fish.
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RE: musky setup
2012/04/25 17:15:27
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depends on what lures you are going to be using... muskies hit bucktails under an ounce and big hunks of plastic that weight over a pound... your gunna end up with two rods and reels at least, or wishing you did like alot of guys, unless you are really partial to only using a few lures, which you might be i dont know. it sure would be nice to have a rod for every situation but i dont i have been happy with a 8 foot fenwick rated 2-8 ounces which is about all i throw, although ive been using a 6'6 rod lately because i fish rivers alot and was to lazy to fix an eye on some other rods and i ended up really liking the short pole too i dont care for really stiff rods cuz they suck to cast and i dont think your helping yourself any when you get a hit, but its probably more about having your drag set correctly and hooks sharpened. but if your rods bending when you jerk or retreive thats not good either. small lures your probably better off with a bigger bass reel like a curado 300 size "i beat the crap out of one for a year,im suprised it still functions", bigger baits theres alot of options i think how tall you are and where you fish"boat,river" and just trying different rods or feeling them in person would be your best bet. ~stiff rods and tight lines~ :P
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RE: musky setup
2012/04/26 16:32:48
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For a casting setup I would go with the ABU Revo (or Revo winch for the reel if thowing big bladed bucktails.) You need the higher drag rating for trolling!!!!
For the rod I would go with the St Croix Mojo rod or Shimano Convergance that is good for at least 5 oz and at least 7 foot long. Line wise I go with 65 lbs or 80 LBS superbraid.
I am not a fan of super stiff rods and superbraid lines together. It is tough to keep the slack out of the line since there is so little bend in the rod and no line strech.
I bought a Gander mountain Pro Series rod for $40.00 on closout that was good for 1-5 lures, it has a Revo winch on it and I seem to use that setup 70% of the time I am casting since it is so light.
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RE: musky setup
2012/04/26 17:05:32
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For a casting setup I would go with the ABU Revo (or Revo winch for the reel if thowing big bladed bucktails.) You need the higher drag rating for trolling!!!!
I am not a fan of super stiff rods and superbraid lines together. It is tough to keep the slack out of the line since there is so little bend in the rod and no line strech.
I disagree with the higher drag rating for trolling. The worst thing you can have when trolling for musky is a locked down or very tight drag. Reasons being if the reel does not slip or slips with a huge load is you find out your weak links very fast. You can have a nick in your leader or main line that results in a break off. If the bait is stuck in the fish good on a break off there is a chance the fish can die from that. I have seen rod holder break before, how would it feel to loose your whole set up? I have had good friends tell me times that a musky had hit a bait when trolling and the drag was to tight that it actually breaks the fishes spine from the sudden jerk. Kinda like a dog running as fast as it can with a rope tied to it collar, that sudden stop puts a hurting on the animal. With proper technique and practice slack line will never be an issue with heavier rated rod, in fact you will have a better hook up ratio with a stiffer rod. You have a better feeling on what going on with your bait, and more enegry transfered thru the line when setting the hook. Rods have came along way from the broom sticks of years past, now a Xheavy action rod should not carry the stigma of "Broom Stick". They have great feeling with alot of power
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RE: musky setup
2012/04/28 15:21:54
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i love my toothtamer rods    toothtamer xxxh 8 ft can use it with any bait u want
MY FISH EATS YOUR FISH FOR BREAKFAST ! ! ! !
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RE: musky setup
2012/04/28 15:23:34
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MY FISH EATS YOUR FISH FOR BREAKFAST ! ! ! !
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RE: musky setup
2012/05/08 19:19:56
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ORIGINAL: anzomcik
ORIGINAL: 3006savage
For a casting setup I would go with the ABU Revo (or Revo winch for the reel if thowing big bladed bucktails.) You need the higher drag rating for trolling!!!!
I am not a fan of super stiff rods and superbraid lines together. It is tough to keep the slack out of the line since there is so little bend in the rod and no line strech.
I disagree with the higher drag rating for trolling. The worst thing you can have when trolling for musky is a locked down or very tight drag.
Reasons being if the reel does not slip or slips with a huge load is you find out your weak links very fast. You can have a nick in your leader or main line that results in a break off. If the bait is stuck in the fish good on a break off there is a chance the fish can die from that.
I have seen rod holder break before, how would it feel to loose your whole set up?
I have had good friends tell me times that a musky had hit a bait when trolling and the drag was to tight that it actually breaks the fishes spine from the sudden jerk. Kinda like a dog running as fast as it can with a rope tied to it collar, that sudden stop puts a hurting on the animal.
With proper technique and practice slack line will never be an issue with heavier rated rod, in fact you will have a better hook up ratio with a stiffer rod. You have a better feeling on what going on with your bait, and more enegry transfered thru the line when setting the hook. Rods have came along way from the broom sticks of years past, now a Xheavy action rod should not carry the stigma of "Broom Stick". They have great feeling with alot of power
I recommended the higher drag rating for trolling because I have had ABU 6500s letting out line even when the drag is tightened to 100% of its rating when trolling some of my large 14 plugs. I fish 65 to 80 LBS line so even at the max setting for the Winch at 24 lbs of resistance I am at around 1/3 of the lines rating so break offs are never an issue. I of course dont actully set it to 24 only just enough to stop the line from peeling out. Testing my 6500 the drag is only 13 lbs max. As far as the rod stiffness goes I actually liked the heavier action rods until the low strech superbraids came out. It is not an issue anymore setting a hook even with alot of line out because the line strech is only 3% now which means the rods loads up and bends much sooner than in years past.
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RE: musky setup
2012/05/08 19:43:05
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I recommended the higher drag rating for trolling because I have had ABU 6500s letting out line even when the drag is tightened to 100% of its rating when trolling some of my large 14 plugs. I fish 65 to 80 LBS line so even at the max setting for the Winch at 24 lbs of resistance I am at around 1/3 of the lines rating so break offs are never an issue. I of course dont actully set it to 24 only just enough to stop the line from peeling out. Testing my 6500 the drag is only 13 lbs max.
Did you read any of the of what I wrote in my last post? I never said you will break your line, but if you line has a nick in it you can break it off there. If you are using a casting reels for trolling I will go out on a limb here to say you are not running trolling leaders either, so you are more likely to have line fray from casting at the end of your line and nics due to trolling. Ok you say you need high drag rating in one post, then this post you say you do not set it at 100% only enough to stop line slippage (so one can assume you dont need "high drag rateing". It really sounds to me that you either do not have a the rod set correctly when trolling or you need to take your 6500 reel apart and clean it. There is no reason why 13lbs of drag cant hold any bait when set properly. As far as stiffness of rods go that is personal preference, my personaly experence is i wish i had bought a heavy or xh action for my first rod, because i would have saved alot of money in the long run.
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