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Yough... Confluence = HORRIBLE.
Went to the Yough at Confluence for the weekend. What a horrible mess that river has become for spring fishng. Not because there are no fish or water. It's because of that stinkin moss that seems to get worse year after year. I mean really, you spend as much of your fishing time pulling that crap off your lines as you do line in the water. I fushed that river prior to the hydro plant going in, and there was NEVER any moss in there like that. It's so frustrating because it's a nice cold water fishery. The moss situation gets better as the summer wears on, but really frustrating in the spring. I'd imagine it's mutliple times worse this year due to the warm early spring.
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RE: Yough... Confluence = HORRIBLE.
2012/04/23 11:09:23
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I to know what you mean and also remember fishing there prior to the hydro plant and it not being that way at all...ive even caught trout i couldnt see on my line till i cleaned the moss of the fish...had property there (behind the campground shower house) since i was a toddler...i just sold it last year but still try to fish there when the crowds arnt bad...but the moss has gotten much worse in the past years...some slippery sh*t to walk on as well!!!
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RE: Yough... Confluence = HORRIBLE.
2012/04/23 13:36:28
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It reminds me of fishing the slop for bass in summer.
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RE: Yough... Confluence = HORRIBLE.
2012/04/23 13:37:06
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I worry about translplanting that green crap to other creeks. I scrubbed my wading boots with detergent and a scrub brush after fishing there. when the boots dried there was still that green slime on them. I don't know if it was dead, or could somehow be alive enought to break off and get reesatablished in another creek.
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RE: Yough... Confluence = HORRIBLE.
2012/04/23 14:49:41
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I think it was due to the warm weather early this year. A few other creeks are also like this, they have algae covering all of the rocks in the creek and they normally do not at this time in the year
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RE: Yough... Confluence = HORRIBLE.
2012/04/23 15:11:24
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I use a bobber up there an it seems to help as most of it is always on the bottom, or use dry flies.
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RE: Yough... Confluence = HORRIBLE.
2012/04/23 18:43:26
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Peter's creek's population of green crap is already thriving.
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RE: Yough... Confluence = HORRIBLE.
2012/04/23 19:43:38
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ORIGINAL: leolizard
Peter's creek's population of green crap is already thriving.
aint that the truth! went down last sunday and it was AWFUL
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RE: Yough... Confluence = HORRIBLE.
2012/04/23 23:32:34
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Wish I could go down there and fish. I can walk right down to the the water treatment plant in 3 minutes or take my bike and got to Greeman. Broke my ultralight, and the idiots at BPS are taking forever to ship my replacement.
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RE: Yough... Confluence = HORRIBLE.
2012/04/24 12:31:55
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RE: Yough... Confluence = HORRIBLE.
2012/04/24 14:21:30
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confluence issue looks like the pic on the top in the link you posted
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RE: Yough... Confluence = HORRIBLE.
2012/04/24 15:39:50
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Was down there on Sunday and every cast you had that stuff all over your hook.
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RE: Yough... Confluence = HORRIBLE.
2012/04/24 16:36:02
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The stuff in Peter's Creek looks like rock snot.
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RE: Yough... Confluence = HORRIBLE.
2012/04/26 09:03:52
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We tried to fish the Yough at Confulence yesterday but the green stuff was so bad we only stayed 15 min. Ended up at Laurel Hill Delayed Harvest. Water flow was good, lot of fish and no "green stuff".
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RE: Yough... Confluence = HORRIBLE.
2012/04/27 21:44:02
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thought that had something to do with the PH of the water ...thats what i was told
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RE: Yough... Confluence = HORRIBLE.
2012/05/06 13:18:31
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I posted comments earlier about the Yough conditions; but I'll back up the feelings of the folks who posted words like horrible. How about dead also. I'll repeat what I experienced by wading from just above the Cassleman to about 100 yards below the R/R bridge. Zig zagged my way upstream and cast far ahead of myself. Saw no minnows; no crawfish, and no fish of any kind. And they call this prime water!!! No sign of life the whole time I was in the water. And the green strands of grass(weeds) were bank to bank at the bridges and above. The only area that held fish was the out-flow and the fast water below it. All fish that were stocked that day below that area soon left for parts unknown.
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RE: Yough... Confluence = HORRIBLE.
2012/05/07 07:56:24
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Fished it with 3 other friends Friday. Man, are they ever putting some small fish in there. Caught more than a handful that were6-7". Hate to keep complaining about it, but it's kinda sad to see how far it is declining. It's too nice a resource to let go essentially to crap. Clubs do a nice job with the fish on the lower half, but you're fishing essentially in all the grey water pouring in from the houses of old minig communities. Not the same experience as the Laurel Mtns.
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RE: Yough... Confluence = HORRIBLE.
2012/05/07 10:20:44
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ORIGINAL: bassboatbill
confluence issue looks like the pic on the top in the link you posted
Really? If Didymo is in the Yough it will NEVER be the same. This would be terrible news, but it's probably inevitable that didymo get in there eventually.
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RE: Yough... Confluence = HORRIBLE.
2012/05/07 10:21:33
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Is this what everyone is seeing? I haven't been there this year. 
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RE: Yough... Confluence = HORRIBLE.
2012/05/07 13:22:13
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ORIGINAL: bassboatbill
confluence issue looks like the pic on the top in the link you posted
D, According to bassboatbill, looks like it is in there. The pic he is talking about is the one you posted.
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RE: Yough... Confluence = HORRIBLE.
2012/05/07 15:01:00
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RE: Yough... Confluence = HORRIBLE.
2012/05/07 21:26:22
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D. Thats not what I saw at the Yough. It was long strands of very green stuff that wraps around your waders. Some places it was bank to bank. MY biggest concern was the lack of aquatic life of any kind from below the bridges to the Cassleman. Just looked dead to me. Maybe the New York fishing has spoiled me worse than I thought. Large; and I mean large trout to be caught that didn't come out of a stock truck.
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RE: Yough... Confluence = HORRIBLE.
2012/05/07 22:23:45
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Hen...i know the strands around your boots as well but feel its the same **** as shown above...the current lets it grab rocks or your boots and strainds it out a bit but ive caught fish wrapped in clups as shown above...i feel its the same...and it sux
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RE: Yough... Confluence = HORRIBLE.
2012/05/08 07:16:30
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You would think that being such a destination fishery for SW PA fisherman anyhow, that you would hear something about it from the PFBC or at least some outdoor columns/rags. Now I know for a fact that "stuff" became prevalent once the hydro-plant was put in. Prior to that, you'd hardly notice the stuff. It's seeming prolification this year could be explained simply as the result of an abnormally warm spring, but I'd like to hear something from a biologist level.
It's my understanding that the Letort, a renowned limestone stream in PA known for it's Fly Fishing, has the same kind of thick moss through it.
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RE: Yough... Confluence = HORRIBLE.
2012/05/08 10:16:35
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You would think that being such a destination fishery for SW PA fisherman anyhow, that you would hear something about it from the PFBC or at least some outdoor columns/rags. Now I know for a fact that "stuff" became prevalent once the hydro-plant was put in. Prior to that, you'd hardly notice the stuff. It's seeming prolification this year could be explained simply as the result of an abnormally warm spring, but I'd like to hear something from a biologist level.
It's my understanding that the Letort, a renowned limestone stream in PA known for it's Fly Fishing, has the same kind of thick moss through it.
I haven't been there this year to check for myself. But if it's Didymo, the biggest place that comes from is boats, trailers and wading gear. A fisherman goes to a place where Didymo is prevalent, Sagage and Potomac basins, several rivers in Tennessee, etc. And doesn't clean his boots/boat/trailer off with bleach solution. Then puts in/gets in the water in a watershed that isn't infected and the didymo algea is released into the new watershed. It hangs around, then boom, blooms and covers everything on the river bottom choking out aquatic insects. Fishermen transport didymo, and it could have come from boats that were put into the lake also. From their bilge pumps.
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RE: Yough... Confluence = HORRIBLE.
2012/05/09 19:38:38
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D-nymph; What's in the photo is probably some lost brain matter from some of the folks I have seen fishing at the out-flow. Probably from the #*^$#@ that took my fishing rod. Do some of these people live in caves? Just think; they usually have many more kids than most folks do. So it will come a time that they will out-breed the people who have a normal brain! Guess the stocking rate of trout will have to greatly increase in the future.
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RE: Yough... Confluence = HORRIBLE.
2012/05/10 00:55:51
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I was reading your post about the stolen rod. I am sorry that this happened to you, but at the same time, I love seeing the moment when people finally realize that it really is Fayettenam. I am surprised they aren't chucking their kids out with a line around their ankles to look for sunken beer cans.  ORIGINAL: henhouse
D-nymph; What's in the photo is probably some lost brain matter from some of the folks I have seen fishing at the out-flow. Probably from the #*^$#@ that took my fishing rod. Do some of these people live in caves? Just think; they usually have many more kids than most folks do. So it will come a time that they will out-breed the people who have a normal brain! Guess the stocking rate of trout will have to greatly increase in the future.
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RE: Yough... Confluence = HORRIBLE.
2012/05/12 00:03:23
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Fished the outflow yesterday, caught 15 no size to any of the trout and the river was moving a little fast, tough to get a good mend out the line
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RE: Yough... Confluence = HORRIBLE.
2012/05/14 15:55:07
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The snot does s$ck but we caught plenty all were small on a Friday 2 stockings ago, fish minnows with no weight or a size 10...1/64 jig biated with a minnow....or anything that floats....marshmellow piece with a maggot or mealworm.
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Re:Yough... Confluence = HORRIBLE.
2012/05/21 12:06:04
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Anybody know if the moss has gotten better recently ???
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