Sunday Hunting = DEAD = ??

 good ol' backwards PA
 
 
 

When the #1 reason for hunters quitting is "Lack Of Game" and allowing another day to hunt will only further reduce the game populations the timing was wrong for bringing up the issue of Sunday hunting. Apparently enough hunters agreed and did not support it. It will probably come up again in the future and if game populations are allowed to increase will garner more hunter support.

We'll get out of the Stone ages some day.

I think you would garner much more support if the deer numbers we're better.

This particular bill has been dead for awhile.  As with most issues concerning sportsmen, few actually take the time to voice a opinion through the correct channels. One way or the other. Heck even the PFSC couldn't get together with a cohesive opinion on this.
 
I have been speaking to certain commissioners about this bill for some time. They pretty much said that the PGC has gone as far as they can which is to support legislation transferring regulatory control of Sunday hunting to the PGC.
 
Is this bill dead? Yes it is. But, another will surface when the PFB needs something legislatively that benefits them. At that time, politicians will do what they do best is trade votes to remain in office.
 
That is the way it works.

i agree with dp,  I did well hunting in 2b this year no complaints coming from me. I wish they would open up sunday hunting but not looking good at all.

Good news.

Was the bill in question actually explained before the room was surveyed?  Something like this, as an example.

HB1760 is about transferring regulatory control of Sunday hunting to the PGC. Currently, our general assembly regulates hunting on Sundays as a result of a long standing blue law. One of the few that has not been repealed. With its passage, the PGC would be tasked with setting seasons and bag limits with Sundays as a available day for each season. Any proposal that woud include Sundays would have to go through the normal process of proposal and final adoption with public input gathered in between those processes. The passage of HB1760 does not equate to Sunday hunting for all species during all seasons.
 
I continue to shake my head at hunters wanting politicians to regulate hunting 52 days of the year. California politicians are currently asking for the president of thier game agency to resign because he went to Idaho and shot a mountain lion. This is what we are looking at with changing demographics. Starting on the coasts and working their way into the heartland with time.

HB1760 is about transferring regulatory control of Sunday hunting to the PGC.

Everyone on both sides of the issue knew that passage of the bill meant allowing Sunday hunting for all species, especially deer, within a year or two. When 80% of landowners opposed it and 40-50% of hunters opposed it, the bill was doomed from the start.

I, as many others, oppose it mainly because it would further deplete an already diminished game population statewide. If the game population increases many of those curently opposed would support it. The lucky few that live in areas of sufficient populations of game currently may not be aware or even care about other areas of the state but the PGC themselves have documented the diminished game numbers statewide of nearly all species except bear.

Added-- As RSB suggested, when nearly half of the people it was intended to satisfy are not in favor of it why would the Leglislators want to get involved in any manner.

ORIGINAL: psu_fish

You can hunt crows, foxes and coyotes on Sundays, but not groundhogs

Crows, foxes(not as much), and coyotes are smart enough to fend for themselves on the Day of da Lord..

Da Lord frowns on makin clouds of "pink mist" out of dumb rodents on da Sabbath.

ORIGINAL: psu_fish

You can use the SGL ranges 8am-Sunset Monday through Saturday, but only Noon-Sunset on Sundays minus the two Sunday's before bear and deer season then it's ok to shoot at 8am

at least 1 range I know of, you can legally shoot from 8am-sunset on Sundays (e.g. - Suscon).

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Should Sunday hunting be allowed in Pennsylvania ?
From PA and vote YES 2998
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Here is one poll, we both know you can find as many as you want showing various numbers but the majority show about 80% landowners opposed ( both farmers and non-farmers)and 40-50% hunters opposed--To "Sunday Hunting". Very few people even pay attention to the control issue because the only reason folks wanted it changed was because folks knew that if it was changed Sunday hunting would be allowed.

As far as the argument concerning wanting control to be in the hands of the PGC to prevent anti-hunting politicans gaining control of the Leglislature and doing bad things, if that happens they could change any existing rules they want just by passing a new rule so that concern is a non issue. Like it or not our sport is controlled by the politicans we vote into office.

If the situation changes in the future to where the vast majority of hunters really push the issue of "Sunday Hunting" it has a good chance of passing. Don't expect them to care about the control issue unless it means the addition of "Sunday Hunting" because it's been a non-issue since 1895.

As with most polls on this issue, the question is flawed. Sunday hunting is already legal in Pa, just for certain species.

True, but not really revelant to the concerns of most folks.

There are fewer than 25,000 crow hunters in Pa. There are even fewer fox and yote hunters and they do most of their hunting at night.

There are 888,187 deer hunters in Pa. They do their hunting during daylight hours. Deer hunting was the driving force behind the issue.

ORIGINAL: S-10

There are 888,187 deer hunters in Pa. They do their hunting during daylight hours. Deer hunting was the driving force behind the issue.

 
Then maybe it should be worded do you support allowing deer hunting on Sundays? If the great majority do not, would it not be possible to move forward on other species without greatly affected what the majority wants, which is no further expansion of deer hunting.

ORIGINAL: Dr. Trout

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/outdoors/s_784602.html

 
 
       

From late Sept. till first week in Feb. Thats a lot of Sunday's. One more reason to hunt Ohio,Although I've only killed two Sunday deer thats two more than in Pa.Plus 100's on geese in the last 10 years.