wayneo73
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wading below the shenango dam
hello all. nice forum here... stumbled across it trying to find some info about fishing below the shenango dam.
currently all 7 gates are open to 1 foot each. can you wade below the dam when all 7 gates are open? is it even worth going up there this time of year?
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RE: wading below the shenango dam
2012/02/25 13:26:56
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I waded below the dam Thursday morning. Just be careful and take your time. The water was just above my knees where I was standing and I didn't feel like wading deeper. Other guys were wading too. Got one walleye too small to keep and a few trout
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RE: wading below the shenango dam
2012/02/25 18:53:01
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ok. thanks for the info. i've been up there a handful of times but never with all 7 gates open.
they seem to have all 7 gates open most of the winter
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RE: wading below the shenango dam
2012/02/25 19:01:02
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ORIGINAL: redneck steel
I waded below the dam Thursday morning. Just be careful and take your time. The water was just above my knees where I was standing and I didn't feel like wading deeper. Other guys were wading too. Got one walleye too small to keep and a few trout
how far below the dam were you if it was only up to your knees? anyone right up towards the dam?
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RE: wading below the shenango dam
2012/02/25 21:00:15
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I was right infront of the dam itself
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RE: wading below the shenango dam
2012/02/25 21:05:05
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wayneo73
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RE: wading below the shenango dam
2012/02/26 14:15:50
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ORIGINAL: redneck steel
I was right infront of the dam itself
wow, i would have thought it would have been deeper with all 7 gates open. thanks again for the post and pm.
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RE: wading below the shenango dam
2012/02/27 12:32:00
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It's pretty good now too. (water level)
Use caution still as you walk- deep holes now and then
Trout are "in" march 1st till end of march for a little spring fishing.....
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RE: wading below the shenango dam
2012/02/27 12:55:52
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i check here http://waterdata.usgs.gov/pa/nwis/uv/?site_no=03103500&PARAmeter_cd=00065,00060,00010 for gage height, discharge and water temperature. and i call the recorded line to get the # of gates open. i always thought that 7 gates open was "unwadable" just below the dam (that's already been proven wrong here). can anyone chime in on at what point the gage height and/or discharge becomes wadable/fishable below the dam? or maybe in terms of "x" # of gates open to "x" # of feet?
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RE: wading below the shenango dam
2012/02/27 13:19:12
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7 gates at 1 foot each is a nice flow. But really you should use the river height in sharpsville reading as an indicator. 3 gates at 2 feet can put out more water than 7 @ 1.
3.5 is a nice discharge to wade, maybe a little quick, but there are lots of shallow "bars" throughout the river. If ur up to your waist move up or downstream and you will quickly find shallower water. ( no need to be intimidated by this water, but do respect it)
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RE: wading below the shenango dam
2012/02/27 13:26:31
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ORIGINAL: CU@theriver
7 gates at 1 foot each is a nice flow. But really you should use the river height in sharpsville reading as an indicator. 3 gates at 2 feet can put out more water than 7 @ 1.
3.5 is a nice discharge to wade, maybe a little quick, but there are lots of shallow "bars" throughout the river. If ur up to your waist move up or downstream and you will quickly find shallower water. ( no need to be intimidated by this water, but do respect it)
thanks! exactly the type of info i was looking for... especially about 3 gates at 2 feet vs 7 gates at 1! i've only fished 2 spots up there... 50-75 yards in front of the dam and down by the first bridge. i've been deeper than waste high at the dam but have never paid attention to the # of gates open and to what # of feet they are open to. it's an hour drive for me so i don't want to waste a trip and this has been very helpful. thanks again!
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RE: wading below the shenango dam
2012/02/28 09:37:46
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the bite is pretty slow right now. i went out the last few weekends and only caught one trout. if you're lookin just to get out, have a blast. If you're looking to land lots of fish you may want to to wait another week or two. Remember it's open to fishing until March 31st, and then its closed from the dam to the bridge until trout opener.
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RE: wading below the shenango dam
2012/02/28 09:50:28
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ORIGINAL: CU@theriver
7 gates at 1 foot each is a nice flow. But really you should use the river height in sharpsville reading as an indicator. 3 gates at 2 feet can put out more water than 7 @ 1.
3.5 is a nice discharge to wade, maybe a little quick, but there are lots of shallow "bars" throughout the river. If ur up to your waist move up or downstream and you will quickly find shallower water. ( no need to be intimidated by this water, but do respect it)
This is some really great info! I've found that every dam is different with regard not only to simple flow amount, but also what the indicators are and how to fish it. For example, one place I've fished is just fine to fish with one gate (of about a dozen) wide open...so long as it's the one on the far side. On the other hand, having even one gate open on the near-half makes it unsafe. It's good to have some accurate info about this place. 
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RE: wading below the shenango dam
2012/02/28 10:17:23
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a fishin buddy tells of a dam between shenango and pymy maybe around rt872 that blocks the fish from shenango from getting to pymy outflow was told they stack up there any info
GOD BLESS
mo
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RE: wading below the shenango dam
2012/02/28 15:39:57
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Are you talking about the dam in Orangeville?
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RE: wading below the shenango dam
2012/02/28 16:23:41
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Where's rt 872??
If you are talking about the dam in Orangeville, that's Pymatuning Creek. It's ok. I fish it a few times in the summer for carp, they're mainly small though, but some nicer ones too. Decent amount of bluegills and other panfish too, but they're not big either. In the spring it gets a run of white bass and hybrids. Last May was my first time fishin the run, and the creek was probably 3 feet or so ABOVE the dam! But there was very little flow because they were backing up a lot of water in the lake to help out with the flooding down south. I got a few small white bass, but it was pretty slow. I bet the fish were spread out pretty good since all of the Ohio parts of the creek were accessable to them...
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RE: wading below the shenango dam
2012/02/28 16:43:56
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ORIGINAL: troutguy
they were backing up a lot of water in the lake to help out with the flooding down south.
That explains why Pymatuning was so d@mn high last year! I never heard or thought of that being a reason. I never seen that lake that high all the years we were fishing there.
Wading Pymatuning and Presque Isle since '85.
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RE: wading below the shenango dam
2012/02/28 18:43:35
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Actually I meant they were backing up water from Shenango Lake, I don't know if they were also backing up water at Pyma or not. Pymatuning Creek is a trib to Shenango Lake that starts in OH and enters Shenango Lake in Orangeville on the west side of the lake, and is not connected to Pymatuning lake whatsoever. I don't know if you knew what I meant, but lots of other people get confused and think Pymatuning Creek goes in or out of Pymatuning Lake, it doesn't. The Shenango comes out of Pyma. Lake, goes into Shenango Lake, and comes back out again. Anyway, yeah Shenango Lake was real high cuz of all the water backed up. Usually at the small dam in Orangeville when the water is real high there's huge rapids, but with all the water backed up it was like a lake. That same week I fished the Shenango River below the dam in Sharpsville, and only one gate was open obviously, but then a week later a guess they couldn't hold any more water back they had all 7 wide open. There was one guy out there wading, but all 7 is definitely too high for my liking(wading wise). I caught a bunch from shore, didn't need to wade.
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wayneo73
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RE: wading below the shenango dam
2012/02/29 16:27:05
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it was determined earlier in this thread that all 7 gates open to 1 foot was still wade-able below the dam. they recently opened all 7 to 1.5 feet which caused a decent spike in the water level.
is it still wade-able with all 7 open to 1.5 feet?
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RE: wading below the shenango dam
2012/02/29 16:53:09
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no we at the army corps strongly advise to stay on the bank.especially during the cold months
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RE: wading below the shenango dam
2012/03/01 10:41:46
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it was determined earlier in this thread that all 7 gates open to 1 foot was still wade-able below the dam. they recently opened all 7 to 1.5 feet which caused a decent spike in the water level.
is it still wade-able with all 7 open to 1.5 feet?
depends how much nuts you got
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RE: wading below the shenango dam
2012/03/01 10:52:07
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Moe...there is a lowhead dam a short distance below the outflow of Pymy that he is talking about. Have caught many walleye there. But watch your season, not the same as in the lake. ORIGINAL: 1MOFISH
a fishin buddy tells of a dam between shenango and pymy maybe around rt872 that blocks the fish from shenango from getting to pymy outflow was told they stack up there any info
GOD BLESS
mo
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